[LAX] Final Four score updates Cornell v. UVA

So SU is going to play for the NC on Monday.

17 SU
7 Duke
Final


Now the game that apparently no one thinks we have a shot at winning ... Let's go Red!!!


15 Cornell
6 UVA
Final

getting kinda chippy ... SU's taken some overly aggressive penalties. Duke still hasn't shown up.

SU 15-7
~10min to go in 4th

I don't know if anyone else caught this, but earlier in the game they were talking about how Quinzani banned the other players on the team from bringing their books along on the trip to study. The announcers didn't seem to think this was a big deal, but I think that is terrible. So much for the whole student-athlete thing.

When does this start becoming bad sportsmanship?

DeltaOne81
When does this start becoming bad sportsmanship?

Fred,

Are you taking about the (1) score or (2) the continued unnecessary penalties Duke keeps taking?

Answer: (1) now. stop shooting and put in the reserves. (2) now. stop taking cheap shots when SU guys don't have the ball.

SU 17-7
~3 min to play 4th

Probably looking at a 3:00 start. Hope everyone DVR'ed accordingly.

Ben, you make a fair point on both.

I was specifically thinking of Syracuse continuing to shoot with a 10 goal lead and 4-5 minutes left. But the penalties by Duke aren't any better.

nothing good about the 4th qrt of this game. penalties upon penalties for both teams.

17 SU
7 Duke
Final

The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.

ESPN2 has "Cornell defeated Virginia 14-10 in regular season on March 8" emblazoned across the bottom of the screen as they talk about Virginia's 14-10 regular season defeat of Cornell and what it means for today. Way to pay attention to detail, guys.

They might want to remove that "2 ET" text as well.

Greenberg '97
The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.

agreed ... this is a touchy subject. IMHO, it depends on the team that is losing. if they are aggressively playing the ball and/or taking stupid or unnecessary penalties (see Duke today) it leaves the winning team no real choice but to shoot running it up even more. in stark contrast, last week Hopkins had thrown in the towel with around 5-6 minutes to play and UVA was still taking them to the goal with their starters until ~3 minutes to go. so SU could have stopped shooting, no question but they did put in the reserves at a reasonable time in the 4th.

ben03

Greenberg '97
The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.

agreed ... this is a touchy subject. IMHO, it depends on the team that is losing. if they are aggressively playing the ball and/or taking stupid or unnecessary penalties (see Duke today) it leaves the winning team no real choice but to shoot running it up even more. in stark contrast, last week Hopkins had thrown in the towel with around 5-6 minutes to play and UVA was still taking them to the goal with their starters until ~3 minutes to go. so SU could have stopped shooting, no question but they did put in the reserves at a reasonable time in the 4th.

OK, now you be Tambroni. Do you shut it down at 13-6 with 10 minutes to go. No frickin' way. This is a game until it's over.

Greenberg '97

ben03

Greenberg '97
The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.

agreed ... this is a touchy subject. IMHO, it depends on the team that is losing. if they are aggressively playing the ball and/or taking stupid or unnecessary penalties (see Duke today) it leaves the winning team no real choice but to shoot running it up even more. in stark contrast, last week Hopkins had thrown in the towel with around 5-6 minutes to play and UVA was still taking them to the goal with their starters until ~3 minutes to go. so SU could have stopped shooting, no question but they did put in the reserves at a reasonable time in the 4th.

OK, now you be Tambroni. Do you shut it down at 13-6 with 10 minutes to go. No frickin' way. This is a game until it's over.

But no one could ever come back from a 7 goal deficit in a national semifinal!

Past the first round of the tournament there is no such thing as running up the score. It was unsporting for UVA to go up 18-0 on Villanova but who cares in they run it up on Hopkins? Hopkins is supposed to be prepared for the game as were Duke and Virginia today. Play from whistle to whistle and don't apologize.

Greenberg '97
Probably looking at a 3:00 start. Hope everyone DVR'ed accordingly.

I did.

ugarte
Past the first round of the tournament there is no such thing as running up the score. It was unsporting for UVA to go up 18-0 on Villanova but who cares in they run it up on Hopkins? Hopkins is supposed to be prepared for the game as were Duke and Virginia today. Play from whistle to whistle and don't apologize.

And as it turned out, for Cornell that took the form of holding the ball with a 9-goal lead. Which was actually just continuing to play the game we'd played all day.

ugarte
Past the first round of the tournament there is no such thing as running up the score. It was unsporting for UVA to go up 18-0 on Villanova but who cares in they run it up on Hopkins? Hopkins is supposed to be prepared for the game as were Duke and Virginia today. Play from whistle to whistle and don't apologize.

I have to disagree. UVA, for whatever purpose, kept in their first team till the end and kept scoring. First, give your reserves a chance to play in a playoff game, second sportsmanship should still be part of sports.


Now compare that to our game, reserves in for most of the third period and no need to score. We've talked the last point to death in prior posts already.

So, if you had a son on any of the above teams, winning or losing side, which would you want? I'm happy to say I went to CU.

Jim Hyla
UVA, for whatever purpose, kept in their first team till the end and kept scoring. First, give your reserves a chance to play in a playoff game, second sportsmanship should still be part of sports.


Now compare that to our game, reserves in for most of the third period and no need to score. We've talked the last point to death in prior posts already.

So, if you had a son on any of the above teams, winning or losing side, which would you want? I'm happy to say I went to CU.

The situations were a little different, though. We had an incentive to rest our starters for the championship game Monday, while UVa were looking at six days before their next game.

jtwcornell91

Jim Hyla
UVA, for whatever purpose, kept in their first team till the end and kept scoring. First, give your reserves a chance to play in a playoff game, second sportsmanship should still be part of sports.


Now compare that to our game, reserves in for most of the third period and no need to score. We've talked the last point to death in prior posts already.

So, if you had a son on any of the above teams, winning or losing side, which would you want? I'm happy to say I went to CU.

The situations were a little different, though. We had an incentive to rest our starters for the championship game Monday, while UVa were looking at six days before their next game.

True, but why not rest UVA's starters, take away the injury possibility, and give the second class players some time. It can only help you down the road.

ugarte
Play from whistle to whistle and don't apologize.

Agreed.

This is scaring me.