Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
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Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: ebilmes (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: November 10, 2008 11:22PM
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: CM cWo 44 (207.10.170.---)
Date: November 11, 2008 08:37AM
Anyone know the connection between the New York Times and Cornell basketball?
They offer a strangely disproportionate amount of coverage to the team, considering their relatively low national profile.
They offer a strangely disproportionate amount of coverage to the team, considering their relatively low national profile.
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: November 11, 2008 09:31AM
CM cWo 44
Anyone know the connection between the New York Times and Cornell basketball?
They want to make amends for historically undercovering our football team compared to the rest of the Ivies?
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: CornellFan (---.nyc.megapath.net)
Date: November 11, 2008 09:58AM
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: November 11, 2008 10:01AM
Heh... "Newman Nation."
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- Steve Worona
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Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: November 11, 2008 10:55AM
Beeeej
Heh... "Newman Nation."
Yeah...you know I'm really starting to get tired of administrations and marketing gurus (and in this case player-bloggers) calling *every* fan base a "Nation." A second example just this week: Colgate selling hockey tickets to "Raider Nation." Really? "Nation?" It was cute and unique when the Boston media affixed the word to the Red Sox fan base (coined in 1986, but not in widespread use until the late '90s according to wikipedia), but now it's really annoying when other teams co-opt it, especially when used to describe something that is so NON-national as Colgate hockey or Cornell basketball. With Colgate, it's surprising since it could be taken as an allusion to Native American nations, which I thought they wanted to get away from...evidenced by dropping the "Red" from their nickname.
I also thought the CU basketball student section was called the "Red Zone" from the t-shirts they gave out, and has been around for more than one year.
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: November 11, 2008 10:59AM
I was mostly amused because of the number of actual Newmans who generally prefer to spend their time in Lynah instead of Bartels/Newman, but yeah, what you said, too.
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 11, 2008 11:41AM
I always just assumed that was because our football team isn't local like Columbia, HYP like HYP, nor historically successful like Penn. If Dartmouth football got a lot of coverage compared to Cornell football, that would be surprising.jtwcornell91CM cWo 44
Anyone know the connection between the New York Times and Cornell basketball?
They want to make amends for historically undercovering our football team compared to the rest of the Ivies?
Red Zone v Newman Nation
Posted by: CornellFan (---.nyc.megapath.net)
Date: November 11, 2008 01:00PM
RichHBeeeej
Heh... "Newman Nation."
Yeah...you know I'm really starting to get tired of administrations and marketing gurus (and in this case player-bloggers) calling *every* fan base a "Nation." A second example just this week: Colgate selling hockey tickets to "Raider Nation." Really? "Nation?" It was cute and unique when the Boston media affixed the word to the Red Sox fan base (coined in 1986, but not in widespread use until the late '90s according to wikipedia), but now it's really annoying when other teams co-opt it, especially when used to describe something that is so NON-national as Colgate hockey or Cornell basketball. With Colgate, it's surprising since it could be taken as an allusion to Native American nations, which I thought they wanted to get away from...evidenced by dropping the "Red" from their nickname.
I also thought the CU basketball student section was called the "Red Zone" from the t-shirts they gave out, and has been around for more than one year.
Here is what happened when we suggested to go back to the Red Zone name. Check out some of the comments.
[cornellbasketball.blogspot.com]
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: November 11, 2008 02:28PM
I'm with Rich. "xxxx nation" sounds silly and is overused. Plus, a couple years of solid fan support doesn't strike me as enough to earn a fan base a name. Keep it up for ten years, especially through a weak year or three, and then maybe.
besides, I'd prefer "the Fieldhouse formerly known as Alberding Nation".
besides, I'd prefer "the Fieldhouse formerly known as Alberding Nation".
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-75-223-46.myvzw.com)
Date: November 11, 2008 08:53PM
For Colgate, it's more like Raider Principality.
Let's hope "________ Nation" dies out faster than "At the end of the day."
Let's hope "________ Nation" dies out faster than "At the end of the day."
Re: Cornell Basketball in NYT Article
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: November 17, 2008 09:08PM
Not that it matters......but are you sure that the Red Sox that popularized the expression? Living in the By Area for most of the past 25 years, I seem to remember the term "Raider Nation" (as in Oakland Raiders) going way back.
Wkipedia says the Red Sox copied it so it must be true.
East Coast vs. West Coast. It is on.
Wkipedia says the Red Sox copied it so it must be true.
East Coast vs. West Coast. It is on.
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