Tipoff Time?
Posted by Beeeej
Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 20, 2008 02:44PM
Sportsline.com lists the game as 4:40pm. Is that pregame coverage? Every other source, including CSTV, says 5pm. I'm actually bringing my boss, now (the perfect excuse for leaving work early for a basketball game is that your boss is, too), and he really doesn't want to miss any of it.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Rita (---.agry.purdue.edu)
Date: March 20, 2008 02:50PM
They are ~9 minutes into the KY-Marquette game. The Cornell-Stanford game tips off 20 minutes after the completion of that game.
You can track the KY game (in real time) at ESPN.com or on CBS sports and plan your departure according to time left and traveling distance to the bar.
You can track the KY game (in real time) at ESPN.com or on CBS sports and plan your departure according to time left and traveling distance to the bar.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2008 02:52PM by Rita.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 20, 2008 02:51PM
Rita
They are ~9 minutes into the KY-Marquette game. The Cornell-Stanford game tips off 20 minutes after the completion of that game.
You can track the KY game ESPN.com or on CBS sports and plan your departure according to time left and traveling distance to the bar.
Seriously? That's the standard? There's no scheduled tipoff time?!
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Rita (---.agry.purdue.edu)
Date: March 20, 2008 02:57PM
Seriously.
The KY-Marquette game is also being played at Anaheim. They can't have a "set" tip time since the game could run long, go into OT etc. The tip times that they do post on the scoreboards and schedules are estimates based on a 2 hr b-ball game (with TV timeouts and all) and ~20 minute warm-ups.
They have to give the next teams time to run through their warm-ups, final pep talk, and player introductions.
The KY-Marquette game is also being played at Anaheim. They can't have a "set" tip time since the game could run long, go into OT etc. The tip times that they do post on the scoreboards and schedules are estimates based on a 2 hr b-ball game (with TV timeouts and all) and ~20 minute warm-ups.
They have to give the next teams time to run through their warm-ups, final pep talk, and player introductions.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2008 03:23PM by Rita.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 20, 2008 03:00PM
Okay, that all makes sense.
But then why does CBS Sportsline list it at 4:40 and CSTV at 5?
Anyway, luckily I can leave the decision as to when to head over to Mercury Bar up to my boss. But the fluidity to the schedule is pretty annoying.
If anybody's paying attention, and they want to drop me an e-mail at beeeejesq at gmail dot com when the KY/Marquette game ends, I'd be grateful for the heads-up whether I'm still here or not.
But then why does CBS Sportsline list it at 4:40 and CSTV at 5?
Anyway, luckily I can leave the decision as to when to head over to Mercury Bar up to my boss. But the fluidity to the schedule is pretty annoying.
If anybody's paying attention, and they want to drop me an e-mail at beeeejesq at gmail dot com when the KY/Marquette game ends, I'd be grateful for the heads-up whether I'm still here or not.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Rita (---.agry.purdue.edu)
Date: March 20, 2008 03:10PM
I think CBS sports line updates the tip time once the teams get on the court for warm-ups. I just saw that they adjusted the tip times for the Purdue game (now at 3:09) and the Pitt-Oral Roberts game (3:05).
I still cannot figure out why CBS schedules so many concurrent games and why they have to have a "local news" break. There are plenty of place to get local news that they can pre-empt it for 2 days of NC$$ b-ball. Why don't they have games starting every hour or so rather than these 5 minute staggered start times?
5:27 left in the 1st half of KY-Marq.
I still cannot figure out why CBS schedules so many concurrent games and why they have to have a "local news" break. There are plenty of place to get local news that they can pre-empt it for 2 days of NC$$ b-ball. Why don't they have games starting every hour or so rather than these 5 minute staggered start times?
5:27 left in the 1st half of KY-Marq.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.usb.temple.edu)
Date: March 20, 2008 03:12PM
Beeeej
Okay, that all makes sense. But then why does CBS Sportsline list it at 4:40 and CSTV at 5?
Rita's right.
I'm sure the reason that CBS Sportsline is alone in listing the tip-off time as 4:40 p.m. is because they want you to tune in to the broadcast early enough to catch wall-to-wall between-game advertising interrupted by wee snippets of highlights -- a broadcast which, of course, is on CBS.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 03:26PM
Rita
I still cannot figure out why CBS schedules so many concurrent games and why they have to have a "local news" break. There are plenty of place to get local news that they can pre-empt it for 2 days of NC$$ b-ball.
Maybe because the 5-8 PM time slot is the most lucrative for local stations?
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 03:28PM
They have to have a local news breaks because the affiliates would go apeshit if they lost (a) the local revenue from the news broadcast and (b) market share as their loyal news viewers who don't care about basketball took a look at the competition while that infernal basketball was on instead of local news.Rita
why they have to have a "local news" break.
And the rolling start times are probably an attempt to show the exciting finish of game 1 without having to cut away from the exciting finish of game 2 and so on and so on.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Rita (---.agry.purdue.edu)
Date: March 20, 2008 03:35PM
ugarteThey have to have a local news breaks because the affiliates would go apeshit if they lost (a) the local revenue from the news broadcast and (b) market share as their loyal news viewers who don't care about basketball took a look at the competition while that infernal basketball was on instead of local news.Rita
why they have to have a "local news" break.
And the rolling start times are probably an attempt to show the exciting finish of game 1 without having to cut away from the exciting finish of game 2 and so on and so on.
They probably wouldn't have that problem here in IN, showing basketball is fine, canceling Oprah and Dr. Phil for NHL hockey is not.
I wish the rolling start times were more spread out, say every 20 or so minutes. But then Bryant Gumbel and Clark Kellogg wouldn't get their requisite number of minutes on air.
The FREE internet NC$$ on demand audio/video service is way cool.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 04:45PM
Tick tick tick ... as the final seconds elapse in Marquette's win, the 5:00 start time is looking pretty close to accurate.
See you at Mercury for the second half.
See you at Mercury for the second half.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: upperdeck (---.syr.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 04:50PM
all those problems were gone years ago when ESPN ran the show and spread the games out over 12-13 hrs instead of jamming them into 8-10 like CBS does.. I still miss the 11:30PM game from the west coast. now the eat coast gets half the games when we are at work and the west coast gets no real prime time games.. they should run 2 games every hour at most then the never get caught with 2-3 ending at the same time and still have a backup if one is a blowout.. and now that they have something like CSTV to show games the news shouldnt be a issue..
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 04:58PM
CSTV guys saying 5:10pm start time.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:05PM
I'm getting a blue screen here...
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:09PM
ESPN is saying 5:15
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:15PM
6-0 Stanford 17:08
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Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:18PM
Is anybody else getting a slide show?
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Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:21PM
9-2 15:15
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:26PM
13-7 Stanford, 12:19. CBS is very choppy for me.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:30PM
2/13 shooting isn't going to cut it
edit: 2/14 and 1/7 from 3 point range
edit: 2/14 and 1/7 from 3 point range
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:32PM
15-9 with 10:02 to go 1st half
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:33PM
make it 15-12
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Willy '06 (---.centennialpr.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:33PM
It's choppy for me too, but I thought it was because I'm on the island of Vieques. Watching this game online might my biggest showing of devotion to Cornell Athletics yet.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Tub(a) (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:34PM
Maybe it's just the microphone placement, but Cornell sounds well represented fan-wise.
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Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:35PM
20-12 8:19
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Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:36PM
22-12 Stanford
Cornell timeout
Cornell timeout
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:36PM
22-12, 7:55, Cornell takes a timeout to figure out how they are going to stop a much, much better team.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:45PM
24-15 Stanford 6:00
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Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:49PM
Dale ice cold 0/8
29-15 3:17
29-15 3:17
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.cmbrmaks.akamai.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:49PM
Since I know dick about basketball, I apologize in advance for any verbal faux pas in the following statement.
Cornell seems to be getting plenty of open shots, and missing all of them. It's not like Stanford's defense is doing a particularly good job to my eyes.
Kyle
Cornell seems to be getting plenty of open shots, and missing all of them. It's not like Stanford's defense is doing a particularly good job to my eyes.
Kyle
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:53PM
krose
Since I know dick about basketball, I apologize in advance for any verbal faux pas in the following statement.
Cornell seems to be getting plenty of open shots, and missing all of them. It's not like Stanford's defense is doing a particularly good job to my eyes.
Kyle
I'm no expert either but that's a fair assessment. If we could hit some shots we could take away their "fast" break.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:55PM
Foote with three fouls, 2 pts
5/31 shooting for Cornell
5/31 shooting for Cornell
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:57PM
38-17 at the half
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Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:58PM
Stanford on a 23-5 run to close the half. Sheesh!
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:58PM
I think the jump shots are less open than you think. Cornell's guys are having trouble making clean passes around the perimiter, they are not able to set their feet, and are taking a lot of catch-and-shoot fadeaways, which isn't what they are used to settling for against, say, Columbia. Dale is driving recklessly so he can't hit a goddamn layup OR draw a foul, because they are letting that off-the-rails locomotive through.
Also, we can't defend these guys for shit.
Also, we can't defend these guys for shit.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.cmbrmaks.akamai.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 05:59PM
Well, thoroughly embarrassing show so far. Let's go Red!
Kyle
Kyle
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:02PM
We've been forcing a lot of shots, but, even when the shots are pretty good, we're throwing up bricks. To play a more athletic, talented team, you've got to have a patterned offense of some kind, a la the Pete Carril-coached Princeton teams that would work a weave and spring someone for an open three or a back-door cut. We just don't have that kind of offense, and when the other guys play pressure D and are bigger, we have no real answer. And when we shoot sub-20% on top of that...
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:02PM
Cornell is facing much more pressure than they are used to. Unfortunately, they are not handling it well at all. Many of their shots are very rushed as a couple of other people have mentioned. They have had a few good looks, but they are playing so tightly that they are throwing up bricks even when they have had good chances.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:17PM
The second half isn't any better. I feel like I'm watching a preview of the women's game against UConn, but with more dunking.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:20PM
50-21 15:16 2nd
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:21PM
50-21, 15:16 left in Bloody Thursday. Let's keep it within 40, guys.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ithacat (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:22PM
The quickness and athleticism that top programs have is too much for Cornell. Part of the problem is it leads to poor technique, rushed decisions, and a worn down team.
Cornell shot 49% from the field on the season. Against Syracuse (36%) and Duke (46%) those numbers drop. That pattern is more pronounced from the line: 76% on the season, but 50% against Syracuse and 64% against Duke.
Keep it under 20 and I'll be happy.
Cornell shot 49% from the field on the season. Against Syracuse (36%) and Duke (46%) those numbers drop. That pattern is more pronounced from the line: 76% on the season, but 50% against Syracuse and 64% against Duke.
Keep it under 20 and I'll be happy.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:23PM
ugarte
The second half isn't any better. I feel like I'm watching a preview of the women's game against UConn, but with more dunking.
So far, it's worse than the 1st half. I was thinking it looks like a lot of high school girls games in which one team can score at will and the other can even get to the basket.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:27PM
At 58-26 with 13:50 to go, Stanford's lead is 98% safe (and in the course of typing this, it has gone to 100%).
I'd have called this one at 4-0; we couldn't handle Lopez at all.
I'd have called this one at 4-0; we couldn't handle Lopez at all.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:28PM
Once the guys with size and talent get a big lead, they just fire away with abandon.
Deja vu 1988.
Deja vu 1988.
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:33PM
I have listened to most of this game on Westwood One and Dave Sims had a comment about 5 minutes into the game that went something like this:
"Stanford can just play dump and chase hockey, put a shot up off the boards, grab the rebound for an easy 2".
The band sounds great as do our fans; the "Let's Go Red" chant is loud and clear.
Cornell making a comeback to try and get it under 20, back-to-back 3's.
"Stanford can just play dump and chase hockey, put a shot up off the boards, grab the rebound for an easy 2".
The band sounds great as do our fans; the "Let's Go Red" chant is loud and clear.
Cornell making a comeback to try and get it under 20, back-to-back 3's.
Can we have the band back for hockey?
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Date: March 20, 2008 06:33PM
Please?
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:37PM
Stanford is playing mostly bench players now, so maybe the final score will look at least a little bit respectable.
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Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:46PM
Is the only way to dissect a major team like this a Princeton offense?
It would have been nice to see a couple of more threes go down in the first half...
It would have been nice to see a couple of more threes go down in the first half...
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:51PM
metaezra
Is the only way to dissect a major team like this a Princeton offense?
It would have been nice to see a couple of more threes go down in the first half...
I think Cornell could have hit a few in the first half, but it would have taken a much calmer approach. If they can get back next year, maybe having this game under their belts will take away some of the nervous edge that showed today.
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Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:54PM
cth95
Stanford is playing mostly bench players now, so maybe the final score will look at least a little bit respectable.
Of course "bench players" is a relative term. The Stanford bench has nearly equaled Cornell's point total.
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Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:55PM
Looked like Stanford was too strong, and having too good a day.
If Cornell hypothetically repeated their RS next year, would they be a 14 again?
If Cornell hypothetically repeated their RS next year, would they be a 14 again?
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:55PM
Stanford bench against the Cornell starters is "fresh legs and raw talent" versus "experience".cth95cth95
Stanford is playing mostly bench players now, so maybe the final score will look at least a little bit respectable.
Of course "bench players" is a relative term. The Stanford bench has nearly equaled Cornell's point total.
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Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:59PM
Good season, Red. Hope to the gang grow even more next year.
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:59PM
Bloodbath over. Lick your wounds, guys, because we're coming back next year. LGR!
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Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 06:59PM
OK band, get on that red eye. We need you here.
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Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 07:00PM
Well, that was certainly better than having to stay at home. This should be a great experience for all of the players. Even though it was against the Stanford bench, the team did start to settle down in the second half.
Maybe they can keep the deficit to only 15 next year.
Great season, guys.
Maybe they can keep the deficit to only 15 next year.
Great season, guys.
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Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 07:03PM
Well, at least our 17 pts in the first half wasn't the "low score" of the day (thank you Kent State, 10 pts v. UNLV).
I think Coach Schafer needs to give Coach Donahue tips on recruiting twins (brothers will do too), especially tall twins. Maybe twins with a "fetish" for things made from Corning Glass?
I think Coach Schafer needs to give Coach Donahue tips on recruiting twins (brothers will do too), especially tall twins. Maybe twins with a "fetish" for things made from Corning Glass?
Re: Tipoff Time?
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.cmbrmaks.akamai.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 07:15PM
If they were wise, they already had reservations and a warmed-up bus.Jim Hyla
OK band, get on that red eye. We need you here.
Kyle
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Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2008 08:10PM
kroseIf they were wise, they already had reservations and a warmed-up bus.Jim Hyla
OK band, get on that red eye. We need you here.
Dude, everyone knows its a 'started up bus', not a 'warmed up bus'... man, kids these days
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Date: March 20, 2008 08:17PM
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Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 20, 2008 08:52PM
The Cornell crowd was pretty good. I think it was helped a bit by the fact that it was spring break, and the track team is in southern california for 2 track meets and all attended the game. Stanford crowd seemed like it was mostly just parents and really only cheered when people came out of the game.
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