Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by jksnake06
Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: jksnake06 (---.Stanford.EDU)
Date: March 19, 2008 01:38AM
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Apparently, ESPN's analysis of similarities between teams that pull major upsets (5 seed lines or more) revealed some common characteristics of giant killer... and Cornell fits most of them.
Interestingly, Siena doesn't do very well on ESPN's scale and they are the trendy upset pick, though that has as much to do with the consensus that Vandy got over seeded than it has to do with the Saints.
Based on this analysis, I'm increasing my confidence level for a Cornell win from 7% to 12%.
Headed down to So Cal tomorrow. Go Big Red.
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Apparently, ESPN's analysis of similarities between teams that pull major upsets (5 seed lines or more) revealed some common characteristics of giant killer... and Cornell fits most of them.
Interestingly, Siena doesn't do very well on ESPN's scale and they are the trendy upset pick, though that has as much to do with the consensus that Vandy got over seeded than it has to do with the Saints.
Based on this analysis, I'm increasing my confidence level for a Cornell win from 7% to 12%.
Headed down to So Cal tomorrow. Go Big Red.
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2008 06:51AM
I'm getting errors with those links... 
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 19, 2008 07:38AM
Yep.DeltaOne81
I'm getting errors with those links...
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Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: March 19, 2008 07:40AM
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: CM cWo 44 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2008 08:54AM
Very subjective criterion to bestow upon a potential cindarella.
HOWEVER, I thought the most interesting note was that no "Giant Killer" (by their definition, a team that knocks off an opponent seeded #5 or higher), has fit any less than 5 of their 9 categories. Seems there is something to it.
At the very least, Cornell fitting a tourney-high 8 of 9 categories can't be a bad thing.
HOWEVER, I thought the most interesting note was that no "Giant Killer" (by their definition, a team that knocks off an opponent seeded #5 or higher), has fit any less than 5 of their 9 categories. Seems there is something to it.
At the very least, Cornell fitting a tourney-high 8 of 9 categories can't be a bad thing.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2008 08:54AM by CM cWo 44.
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2008 09:02AM
Isn't Khaliq a senior? We should nine of nine...
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: CM cWo 44 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2008 09:10AM
metaezra
Isn't Khaliq a senior? We should nine of nine...
That criteria was that the team starts two seniors.
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.public.uconn.edu)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:16PM
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:20PM
Not quite... she has them losing to Marquette, which would be a second round game.
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Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.public.uconn.edu)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:23PM
Beeeej
Not quite... she has them losing to Marquette, which would be a second round game.
that's what I get for seeing "sweet sixteen picks" and thinking it was picks for the round of 16.
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Jordan 04 (155.72.24.---)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:24PM
Phil's mom picked Cornell. Tony was quite pleased.
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: RichH (216.195.201.---)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:29PM
Well, that's really the round of 32, with her winners making it to the sweet sixteen. We would play Marquette (or Kentucky) in the next round. (Edit: I'm slow)
The filled out bracket on the front page of "Page 2" today has Cornell in the Elite 8, beating Stanford, Marquette, and Texas before losing to Michigan State.
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Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:38PM
RichH
Well, that's really the round of 32, with her winners making it to the sweet sixteen. We would play Marquette (or Kentucky) in the next round. (Edit: I'm slow)
The filled out bracket on the front page of "Page 2" today has Cornell in the Elite 8, beating Stanford, Marquette, and Texas before losing to Michigan State.
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...punctuated with "Upset!" scribbled on the Cornell win over Texas.
I picked Cornell to beat Stanford and then Kentucky, only to lose to Texas in Houston. Yes, even in the brackets that cost me money. Do I really believe it could happen?
Sure.
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- Steve Worona
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: CM cWo 44 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2008 04:42PM
Giant killer update [sports.espn.go.com]
"Not-so-Big-Red" hahah, good stuff
Stanford (3) vs. Cornell (14)
The GK Take: We've been all over the Big Red for weeks. With eight points, they're tied as the top-ranked Giant Killer. Cornell's only flaw is starting only one senior. Well, Stanford only tips off with one senior, too. Cornell has the perfect counter to Stanford's plodding frontcourt—a perimeter-oriented squad that out-shoots opponents by 5.5 percentage points beyond the arc. The numbers say you should give this one a shot.
The Human Touch: You know who's unlucky? The econ major who has to defend seven-footer Brook Lopez (who missed that game against Siena, by the way). The not-so-Big-Red doesn't have the bodies to keep Brook and bro Robin from dominating this one.
"Not-so-Big-Red" hahah, good stuff
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 19, 2008 05:05PM
Could, yes. Will it? Probably not. But then it's not like you're betting a lot of money specifically on the Cornell game(s).Beeeej
I picked Cornell to beat Stanford and then Kentucky, only to lose to Texas in Houston. Yes, even in the brackets that cost me money. Do I really believe it could happen?
Sure.
Re: Cornell a giant killer?
Posted by: RichH (216.195.201.---)
Date: March 19, 2008 05:14PM
KeithKCould, yes. Will it? Probably not. But then it's not like you're betting a lot of money specifically on the Cornell game(s).Beeeej
I picked Cornell to beat Stanford and then Kentucky, only to lose to Texas in Houston. Yes, even in the brackets that cost me money. Do I really believe it could happen?
Sure.
14.5 is a big spread.
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