Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by Scott Kominkiewicz
Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Scott Kominkiewicz (---.ebnet.org)
Date: March 22, 2007 07:56AM
If all continues well, one of my children may be a recruited track and field athlete. I have some questions that I hope some of my Cornell sports brethren can help with.
Of course, Ivies can't offer scholarships, but I know that some teams have the advantage of admissions preference for a limited number of their recruits. Do you know if Cornell or the other Ivy track programs get a few gold stars to put on applications? Just curious if anyone has any knowledge about this.
The child I mentioned is only a H.S. freshman, so it's not a pressing matter, but it's something to consider.
Of course, Ivies can't offer scholarships, but I know that some teams have the advantage of admissions preference for a limited number of their recruits. Do you know if Cornell or the other Ivy track programs get a few gold stars to put on applications? Just curious if anyone has any knowledge about this.
The child I mentioned is only a H.S. freshman, so it's not a pressing matter, but it's something to consider.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 22, 2007 10:41PM
Scott Kominkiewicz
If all continues well, one of my children may be a recruited track and field athlete. I have some questions that I hope some of my Cornell sports brethren can help with.
Of course, Ivies can't offer scholarships, but I know that some teams have the advantage of admissions preference for a limited number of their recruits. Do you know if Cornell or the other Ivy track programs get a few gold stars to put on applications? Just curious if anyone has any knowledge about this.
The child I mentioned is only a H.S. freshman, so it's not a pressing matter, but it's something to consider.
Scott,
At the very least, your child will be a legacy. Probably not as good as a gold star for athletics, but it did wonders for Dubya at Yale!
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 26, 2007 06:49PM
At some of the smaller elite colleges, student athletes make up a big fraction of the student body - 25%? - so if he or she runs a pretty good 400 meters, that's a leg up at Amherst over the same SAT score / same GPA not athlete.
I think the advantage would come apply itself as many as three times over at Cornell: first, because it's something the HS student has done over four years and stuck to it; second, if he or she appears to be able to make the team, in which case the person fills two slots (student, athlete); and third if he or she would be a standout on the team.
You can get a boost on admissions in odd ways. A friend who's active among Princeton football alumni tells me a talented woman a couple years back was a very good HS football team manager, really wanted to do same for the Tigers, and that combination was enough to have the football staff enthusiastically recommend her for admission, and she got in. She had the grades regardless and the special activity got her over the top among others with equal academics.
I don't see how I'd ever get into Cornell if I had to apply with the current caliber of applicants. But then I don't know how I made it the first time.
I think the advantage would come apply itself as many as three times over at Cornell: first, because it's something the HS student has done over four years and stuck to it; second, if he or she appears to be able to make the team, in which case the person fills two slots (student, athlete); and third if he or she would be a standout on the team.
You can get a boost on admissions in odd ways. A friend who's active among Princeton football alumni tells me a talented woman a couple years back was a very good HS football team manager, really wanted to do same for the Tigers, and that combination was enough to have the football staff enthusiastically recommend her for admission, and she got in. She had the grades regardless and the special activity got her over the top among others with equal academics.
I don't see how I'd ever get into Cornell if I had to apply with the current caliber of applicants. But then I don't know how I made it the first time.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 26, 2007 07:17PM
We wonder that sometimes too... (I kid, I kid.)billhoward
I don't see how I'd ever get into Cornell if I had to apply with the current caliber of applicants. But then I don't know how I made it the first time.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 26, 2007 08:10PM
Actually, I was New York State school photographer of the year three years running. I wasn't that good, but I guess it was off years for the competition, or Larry Baum forgot to enter. Maybe Cornell thought I'd be a good yearbook photographer and marked that slot [X] filled. Heh! They got a sportswriter instead.
Seriously, the thing that really helped was applying to be an exchange junior year, and the guidance counselor (who handled an entire class, not say students A-F for grades 9-12) had lots of time to write glowing recommendations junior year for AFS and YFU ... but had to hustle to write semi-glowing recommendations senior year, so he just recycled the junior year recommendaton as a college recommendation. The rest worked out well for me if not for the rest of Cornell or, now, poor eLynah.
Seriously, the thing that really helped was applying to be an exchange junior year, and the guidance counselor (who handled an entire class, not say students A-F for grades 9-12) had lots of time to write glowing recommendations junior year for AFS and YFU ... but had to hustle to write semi-glowing recommendations senior year, so he just recycled the junior year recommendaton as a college recommendation. The rest worked out well for me if not for the rest of Cornell or, now, poor eLynah.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Scott Kominkiewicz (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 04, 2010 12:14AM
Three years ago I posted this in reference to my daughter. (I re-discovered this on a Google search.) I got my answer, and it is yes. She will be throwing for Dartmouth in the fall. I'm very proud of her, although I wish she wound up at Cornell. I can't argue much about her choice though.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: RichH (12.189.157.---)
Date: February 04, 2010 01:43AM
Congratulations to you and your daughter, Scott!
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: February 04, 2010 11:45AM
Yeah, congrats! Even if we'll have to root against her anytime she competes against Cornell.RichH
Congratulations to you and your daughter, Scott!
(Not that I have the foggiest idea when Cornell track and field competitions are. But still...)
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 04, 2010 03:42PM
KeithK
Yeah, congrats! Even if we'll have to root against her anytime she competes against Cornell.RichH
Congratulations to you and your daughter, Scott!
(Not that I have the foggiest idea when Cornell track and field competitions are. But still...)
They are scheduled whenever you want to cut through Barton Hall.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Scott Kominkiewicz (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 04, 2010 10:20PM
Thanks for the well wishes. Next year if you want to cut through Barton and there is a track meet in progress, and there are people wearing green uniforms with a large D on them, go to the throwers cage and say hi to Corinne.
I know what you mean about cutting through Barton. To get from my U-Hall to Teagle for practice I would walk through the Campus Store, Statler, Barton, and across the street to Teagle. Didn't know about the tunnel then.
I know what you mean about cutting through Barton. To get from my U-Hall to Teagle for practice I would walk through the Campus Store, Statler, Barton, and across the street to Teagle. Didn't know about the tunnel then.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Killer (---.c3-0.nat-ubr5.sbo-nat.ma.cable.rcn.com)
Date: February 04, 2010 10:25PM
Scott Kominkiewicz
I know what you mean about cutting through Barton. To get from my U-Hall to Teagle for practice I would walk through the Campus Store, Statler, Barton, and across the street to Teagle. Didn't know about the tunnel then.
I preferred to stay outside on my walk to practice. The cold air kept my ice cream from melting.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 06, 2010 10:37AM
Killer
Scott Kominkiewicz
I know what you mean about cutting through Barton. To get from my U-Hall to Teagle for practice I would walk through the Campus Store, Statler, Barton, and across the street to Teagle. Didn't know about the tunnel then.
I preferred to stay outside on my walk to practice. The cold air kept my ice cream from melting.
And my hair, coming from Teagle.
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Willy '06 (38.98.164.---)
Date: February 06, 2010 11:02AM
Swampy
And my hair, coming from Teagle.
It kept your hair from melting?
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 06, 2010 03:58PM
Willy '06
Swampy
And my hair, coming from Teagle.
It kept your hair from melting?
After gym class, I used to take a shower. Usually my hair would freeze after a few minutes in sunny Ithaca weather. Killer said he preferred not to cut through Barton Hall because by staying outside the cold air kept his ice cream from melting. So I said, [it also] kept my hair from melting. Get it?
Re: Ivy Track Recruiting
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: February 06, 2010 04:01PM
Yeah, now.Swampy
Willy '06
Swampy
And my hair, coming from Teagle.
It kept your hair from melting?
After gym class, I used to take a shower. Usually my hair would freeze after a few minutes in sunny Ithaca weather. Killer said he preferred not to cut through Barton Hall because by staying outside the cold air kept his ice cream from melting. So I said, [it also] kept my hair from melting. Get it?
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morgan uceny
Posted by: bernie (---.hlrn.qwest.net)
Date: March 02, 2010 10:12PM
recent cornell grad morgan uceny won the women 1500 meters at the us indoor track & field championships this past weekend. was shown on espn - not sure if it'll be replayed
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Re: morgan uceny
Posted by: Willy '06 (38.98.164.---)
Date: March 03, 2010 09:33AM
I happened to have ESPN at the time. I was disappointed that I didn't see Morgan in the 800 (I think that's what she used to run), but then surprised to see her running the 1500. She came extremely close to placing 2nd after having a sizable lead, but she just barely stayed ahead. The woman who came in 2nd blew past Morgan once they both crossed the finish line.
Re: morgan uceny
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 03, 2010 09:41AM
Too late.Willy '06
She came extremely close to placing 2nd after having a sizable lead, but she just barely stayed ahead. The woman who came in 2nd blew past Morgan once they both crossed the finish line.
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Re: morgan uceny
Posted by: Willy '06 (38.98.164.---)
Date: March 03, 2010 11:20AM
Kind of like the USA no goal against the Swiss.
Re: morgan uceny
Posted by: ugarte (---.z75-46-65.customer.algx.net)
Date: March 03, 2010 11:45AM
Where do I send that woman a letter of congratulations for her win in the 1510?Al DeFlorio
Too late.Willy '06
She came extremely close to placing 2nd after having a sizable lead, but she just barely stayed ahead. The woman who came in 2nd blew past Morgan once they both crossed the finish line.
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