Cornell 3 Colorado College 2
Posted by Trotsky
Cornell 3 Colorado College 2
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 05:58PM
1 0x:xx CC pp Salcido (Sertich, McCulloch)
1 16:49 CC pp Hillen (Sertich, Sterling)
2 16:44 Cor pp Scott 6 (Moulson 20, Seminoff 6)
3 04:50 Cor Moulson 18 (Carefoot 4)
3 09:20 Cor Gleed 1 (Chris Abbott 5, Sawada 13)
1 16:49 CC pp Hillen (Sertich, Sterling)
2 16:44 Cor pp Scott 6 (Moulson 20, Seminoff 6)
3 04:50 Cor Moulson 18 (Carefoot 4)
3 09:20 Cor Gleed 1 (Chris Abbott 5, Sawada 13)
Edited 13 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2006 08:30PM by Trotsky.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (pre game)
Posted by: Italy571 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:01PM
Gleed, Seminoff, Abbott, Sawada, Mugford, and McKee starting for The Red.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (pre game)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:01PM
Sounds like everybody (Chris A., Sasha, O'Byrne, Gleed) is back tonight.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Italy571 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:06PM
Cornell PP
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:06PM
Early Cornell pp.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:06PM
PP upcoming
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:07PM
Who was Bitz passing to there??
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:10PM
Pretty weak on the first pp.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:10PM
PP over
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:10PM
..and typical
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:12PM
Well, against CC they need to be really careful of the shorty.
Tigers a little ragged here. Hopefully Cornell has the experience to press a bit now.
Tigers a little ragged here. Hopefully Cornell has the experience to press a bit now.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: ams258 (---.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:14PM
Can anyone find a gamecast for the game?
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:14PM
Nice LGR! chant.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Omie (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:14PM
Its sooo cool to listen the "Lets Go Red!" chant all the way in Australia 
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:14PM
ams258
Can anyone find a gamecast for the game?
javascript:mediaPlayer.play({w: 'http://web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta?i=1112658423&c=16607&m=was&u=/w2.xsl',sid: '700',type: 'a_free',gid: '2006/03/25/cocmho-cormho-1'})
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:15PM
Trotsky
Well, against CC they need to be really careful of the shorty.
They never got it set up.
PP CC
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:15PM
Big save by David; CC pp.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:16PM
High stick againhst CU
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:16PM
5 on 3
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:16PM
Oh crap Pegoraro called for contact to the head, 5x3 for CC upcoming
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:16PM
CC now 5x3.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:16PM
Score CC
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Hayek (---.bflony.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:17PM
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Omie (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:17PM
CC scores 
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:18PM
We knew specialty teams would be critical. You just can't give them a 5 on 3. Now we MUST kill the 5 on 4 and stabilize things
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:18PM
Shyte.
Kill Red Kill
Kill Red Kill
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 0 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:18PM
1 x:xx CC pp Salcido (Sertich, McCulloch)
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:20PM
killed it. Now we need to settle down, get the puck in CC's zone and keep it there.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: redliner (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:22PM
I'm so nervous, please comfort me.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:22PM
We'll be fine !
A little nervous I suspect.
LGR
A little nervous I suspect.
LGR
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:23PM
redliner
I'm so nervous, please comfort me.
In 6 billion years, the sun will explode and none of this will matter.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:24PM
redliner
I'm so nervous, please comfort me.
Relax. The sun WILL rise tomorrow.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:24PM
Trotsky: We couldnt have planned that better.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2006 06:25PM by Townie.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: redliner (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:25PM
I'm getting missed messages between you and Trotsky 
Chant?
Posted by: Hayek (---.bflony.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:25PM
Anyone hear what our fans were chanting during that break?
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:27PM
Well the sun will rise, but only for another 6 billion years. Simply a different persepctive!
We finally set it up and Bitz misses a nice centering pass from Scott!
We finally set it up and Bitz misses a nice centering pass from Scott!
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Omie (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:28PM
Big save Mckee
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:30PM
Good rendition of "Hey Bâby."
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:31PM
We seem to be holding our own (on radio, at least), but our ability to create offensively seems to be the same old story.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:31PM
Omie
Big save Mckee
I think it hit the pipe?
OT Lax beat Yale 16-6
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:32PM
OT: Lax beat Yale 16-6
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:33PM
SOG 3-0 CC
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:34PM
No shots in 14 minutes.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:35PM
SOG 4-3 CC
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:36PM
Penalty on McCutcheon 2 minutes
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2006 06:36PM by Townie.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:37PM
NCAA Hockey Central has Cornell with 3 shots
Krantz, Carefoot and O'Byrne
LGR
Penalty on McCutcheon
Krantz, Carefoot and O'Byrne
LGR
Penalty on McCutcheon
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:38PM
CC scores
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Omie (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:39PM
CC scores 2-0
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:39PM
Long wrister deflects off one of our players
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:39PM
Double shit !
LGR LGR LGR LGR
LGR LGR LGR LGR
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:41PM
We gotta stay out of the box - that's pretty apparent.....
LGR
LGR
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:42PM
Nice defensive play from OB to help bust a breakaway.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Omie (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:43PM
whats going on with our PK? failed against Harvard and now against CC
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:44PM
Many of our shots are from the perimeter and are being blocked by defensemen. We can't seem to get anything in the center.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: TCHL8842 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:44PM
CC has probably the best PP in the country. You had to know not to take penalties going into this we could not take penalties
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:44PM
1st period over
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Hayek (---.bflony.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:46PM
Aside from Cornell, when was the last time an ECAC team won an NCAA Tourney game? Was it St. Lawrence? I don't recall Harvard winning a game in the last 4 or 5 years.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Omie (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:46PM
Trailing 2-0 and with only 1 shot on goal... We better get some offense going, how?
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:46PM
Jason says shots are 10 - 1 CC
NCAA says 7 - 4
On one thing they agree, CC leads 2 - 0
We'll get 'em in the second.
Note to Red : Stay out of the box !
LGR
NCAA says 7 - 4
On one thing they agree, CC leads 2 - 0
We'll get 'em in the second.
Note to Red : Stay out of the box !
LGR
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: redliner (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:47PM
that doesn't really say much about the ecac
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (end 1st period)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:49PM
One penalty (Mugford) was well behind the play on a CC rush and another (McCutcheon) behind their goal deep in the offensive zone. Dumb. That looked like a not-so-instant replay of last Saturday's first period.
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Mike K (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:50PM
damn, it doesnt look good at all, I would be much more encouraged if we were getting chances and just not finishing but we cant do anything. Seniors, its your last chance.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (end 1st period)
Posted by: TCHL8842 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:52PM
We still got 2 periods, plenty of time to get back into it. If we can get to the front of their net, I would imagine we will get several PPs.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 1 (1st period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 06:59PM
Hayek
Aside from Cornell, when was the last time an ECAC team won an NCAA Tourney game? Was it St. Lawrence? I don't recall Harvard winning a game in the last 4 or 5 years.
The last non-Cornell NCAA win by an ECAC team was 3/26/00, SLU 3 BU 2 (ot) [www.tbrw.info]
Cornell has the last four ECAC NCAA wins.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (end 1st period)
Posted by: Drew (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:02PM
Plenty of game left, you guys need a quick one for a confidence boost....no more penalties.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (end 1st period)
Posted by: CKinsland (---.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:04PM
Cornell PP coming up
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (end 1st period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:04PM
cornell pp.....lgr!!!!!
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:05PM
Nice set up. Big shot from OB and Topher in good position for a rebound that never came
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: TCHL8842 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:06PM
We need this goal
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Townie (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:07PM
PP over
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:17PM
let's go red
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:18PM
"Bitz pass to no one in particular." Jason getting a little snarky.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:20PM
Cornell pp #3 coming up.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Hayek (---.bflony.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:25PM
Cowbell cheer. Maybe that will get things jump started.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:25PM
Some movement but no good chances. Either our O is dead or the CC D is having a great game.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: TCHL8842 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:29PM
Score here we got a game, dont I think our inept offense is going to catch up with us
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:29PM
pp........score now!
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: CKinsland (---.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:30PM
Cornell scores!!!!
PP goal Scott.
PP goal Scott.
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Hayek (---.bflony.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:30PM
SCOTT!
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:30PM
Topher Scott from Moulson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LGR!!!
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:30PM
TOPHER SCOTT !!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah Bâby !
LGR
Yeah Bâby !
LGR
Re: Cornell 0 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Free11Skier (---.clvdoh.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:32PM
Alright! Let's get going now.
___________________________
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MAE '08
Lynah Faithful in exile - Co-op '06
MAE '08
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:32PM
2 16:44 Cor pp Scott 6 (Moulson 20, Seminoff 6)
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:34PM
Lots of great chances for Cornell now!
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: TCHL8842 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:35PM
Finally we are picking up our play
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2006 07:36PM by TCHL8842.
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: CKinsland (---.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:36PM
Second period over...we're definitely looking better.
LGR!
LGR!
Picture Quality
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.0.127.199.adsl.snet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:38PM
I haven't been reading everything on this thread, but am I the only one experincing really crazy picture quality? The brightness was going crazy that period... and on the Cornell goal scoring rush, the sound went out and the screen almost washed out with brightness.
Feels like all-access
Feels like all-access
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: redliner (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:38PM
I'm cheered up now 
Re: Picture Quality
Posted by: CKinsland (---.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:41PM
Yeah. Same thing happening to me.
Really annoying...at least the action keeps moving...no jitters...no pixelation.
Still the whole thing was a blur of white for not-insignificant portions of the period.
Really annoying...at least the action keeps moving...no jitters...no pixelation.
Still the whole thing was a blur of white for not-insignificant portions of the period.
BU-BC: Round 6
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.0.127.199.adsl.snet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:42PM
4-0 BC! Wow.
If they hold on, Catholic schools will be 3-0 so far.
BU will always have the Beanpot...
If they hold on, Catholic schools will be 3-0 so far.
BU will always have the Beanpot...
Re: BU-BC: Round 6
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 07:53PM
beginning of the 3rd
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (3rd period)
Posted by: Italy571 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:00PM
SCORE!!
Re: BU-BC: Round 6
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:00PM
MOULSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have a tie game!!!! LGR!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Cornell 2 Colorado College 2 (3rd period)
Posted by: CKinsland (---.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:00PM
Moulson!!!
Wraparound
Let's Go Red!!
Wraparound
Let's Go Red!!
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (3rd period)
Posted by: whn1 (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:00PM
Moulson!!!
Re: Cornell 2 Colorado College 2 (3rd period)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:02PM
3 04:50 Cor Moulson 18 (Carefoot 4)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2006 08:09PM by Trotsky.
Re: Cornell 2 Colorado College 2 (3rd period)
Posted by: Per Djoos (---.157.104.54.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:03PM
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
LGR
FSN North (Minnesota) Switched Feeds
Posted by: Matt Janiga (---.onenetusa.net)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:04PM
They're now showing the Wild-Sharks game. Anyone know if it's on the radio, or another channel in the Minnesota region?
Re: Cornell 2 Colorado College 2 (3rd period)
Posted by: dford'94 (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:05PM
He is playing like the captain tonight!!!!!!!
Re: Cornell 1 Colorado College 2 (2nd period)
Posted by: TCHL8842 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: March 25, 2006 08:05PM
Looks like we are tiring them down. I think this bodes well for us for the rest of the game
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