Ammo for Clarkson Cheers

Those North Country jokes may be more true than we thought. Here is some fuel for this weekend and possibly many games to come. I noticed this article when I was at my mother's in Potsdam today (3/8). I am sure someone can make good use of it.

Scroll down a couple of stories or go to the Potsdam bicentennial link to find this. Can't wait to see everyone at the game Saturday. LGR!!!!

[www.northcountrynow.com]


Celebrting (sic) Potsdam's 200th: Founding Clarkson family inbred extensively
By BILL SHUMWAY
POTSDAM – It was “all in the family” – literally – for the founders of the Town of Potsdam and Clarkson University.
Extensive inbreeding took place within the Clarkson families who played prominent roles in the establishment of the town, which is celebrating its 200th anniversary this year.
In fact, during the mid-1800s, three different families -- each created when Clarkson cousins married their cousins -- lived on what is now the Clarkson University hill campus, according to “The Clarkson Family of Potsdam,” written in 1958 by Margaret Gurley Chapman and revised in 2001 by the Potsdam Public Museum:
• T. Streatfield Clarkson married his first cousin, Ann Mary Clarkson in 1852 and the couple lived in Holcroft House, now the Clarkson admissions office, their entire married life. Their children, Annie and Emilie, donated the hill campus land and $1.5 million in the late 1920s to Clarkson. T. Streatfield’s parents – David and Elizabeth Streatfeild Clarkson -- were also cousins before they married.
• Thomas S. Clarkson II married his cousin, Elizabeth Clarkson, in 1830. The couple moved to Potsdam in 1840, and lived in the Clarkson mansion between Holcroft and Woodstock that burned in 1909. The couple had six children, including Thomas. S. Clarkson III, in whose memory Clarkson was founded in 1896. Thomas S. III, along with siblings Elizabeth, Levinus, Lavinia and Frederica never married. The only child to marry was Ann Mary, who married T. Streatfield Clarkson.
• Frances S. Clarkson married her cousin Augustus L. Clarkson, who built Woodstock Lodge in 1827. Francis, however, died in 1829, and Augustus later married Emily McVickar in 1852.
T. Streatfield, Thomas S. II and Frances were the three of Thomas S. (1763-1844) and Elizabeth (1771-1852) Clarkson’s 11 children who eventually moved to Potsdam after having grown up at 33 Broadway in New York City. A fourth child of Thomas S. II and Elizabeth, Elizabeth Streatfeild Clarkson, married David Clarkson, in 1822, but she didn’t move to Potsdam. However, T. Streatfield Clarkson was their son and he and wife Ann Mary Clarkson lived in Potsdam.
Elizabeth and Augustus were the children of Levinus Clarkson (1765-1845), who moved to Holcroft House in 1840, after retiring from a successful insurance career in New York City.
Many branches of the Clarkson family lived in Potsdam during the 1800s.
The original purchasers in 1802 were David M. Clarkson and Garret Van Horne, who were acting on behalf of a six-member trust. Van Horne eventually sold his shares in the trust to Matthew Clarkson, according to a brochure prepared by the Potsdam Public Museum as part of a 1996 exhibit on the Clarkson family.
In 1821, the town was parceled out to six cousins and a friend of the Clarksons. The cousins included Levinus Clarkson, who moved to Holcroft in 1840; Hermon LeRoy; William Bayard; John C. Clarkson, the first Clarkson to actually live in Potsdam when he moved into land agent Benjamin Raymond’s farm after Raymond left in 1818 to establish what is now Raymondville; and Thomas S. Clarkson, grandfather of Thomas S. III, in whose memory what is now Clarkson University was founded. The friend was Nicholas Fish.

That's just wrong

"CLARKSON: KEEPING THE LOVE IN THE FAMILY SINCE 1806" (or whenever the year is)

While I love ribbing Clarkson about anything as much as the next guy, marrying cousins was quite common in this country in the 1800s. Check to be sure your own lineage is pure before casting aspersions...

"Kissing cousins *clap clap clapclapclap*

Or, if you're feeling particularly daring around the ushers: "fucking cousins *clap clap clapclapclap*".

clarking sons?
was there any mom-son action in the family (of course we are talking grown sons, no references to kids here)

and of course, nothing like that could ever have taken place in Ithaca.

Damn. A friend of mine found that article a few days ago and showed it to me, with the hopes that you guys wouldn't find it. Somehow, I knew that was just impossible...

Rich S
and of course, nothing like that could ever have taken place in Ithaca.

Ah, the expected "I know you are, but what am I?" Classic.

Somehow, Ezra Cornell managed to marry someone without his own last name. In fact he married outside the expectations of society:

From [www.news.cornell.edu]

[Q]Ezra Cornell's marriage to Mary Ann Wood was an act of rebellion for a young man at the time, Engst pointed out. He was a Quaker and her family was Episcopalian. When the Quakers read him out of the congregation for marrying outside of it, he wrote back unapologetically: "I have always considered that choosing a companion for life was a very important affair and that my happyness or misery in this life depended on the choice and for that reason I never felt myself bound to be dictated in the affair by any higher authority than my own feelings."[/Q]

Reminds me of the old joke: "Where do West Virginia guys go to meet girls: Family reunions."

Points - Big Red...inbred

If you guys can get away with inbred, then we should also be able to get away with some of the less-creative more-offensive cheers...

no ties in the playoffs, but it would give new meaning to sister-kissing.

RichH

Rich S
and of course, nothing like that could ever have taken place in Ithaca.

Ah, the expected "I know you are, but what am I?" Classic.

No Rich, not at all...lol.

See your compatriot's post reminding us all that marraige within families was quite common in those days.

Where is your sense of history?

Bah, I was years ahead of the curve with "POTSDAM WHITE TRASH".

"Do You Defy?"

"This is our classroom"

Just some quotes from the Clarkson TV commercials... yes, they have tv commercials

and on that note- how about "Our school doesn't need TV ads"

A little pretentious I know, but come on - television spots!

[q]and on that note- how about "Our school doesn't need TV ads" [/q]Have you ever seen the Cornell spots during hockey broadcasts? *cringe*

KeithK
[q]and on that note- how about "Our school doesn't need TV ads" [/q]Have you ever seen the Cornell spots during hockey broadcasts? *cringe*

We'll to be really appropriate they should have a blank screen for the first 15 seconds, then 30 seconds of unsynched audio and severe pixelization, and finally a frozen image for the last 15 seconds. Then they should bill your Visa card for watching it.

I meant TV, but nice!

French Rage
Bah, I was years ahead of the curve with "POTSDAM WHITE TRASH".

The wheels on your house go 'round and 'round...

Welcome ITT Tech

don't forget to print out a roster b/c they don't have names on the back

What are you trying to say about our family

P.s. How 'bout ditching Myriam and marrying me in September... We'd already have a place! And then of course we'll move to Potsdam

sockralex
Welcome ITT Tech

don't forget to print out a roster b/c they don't have names on the back

Doesn't anyone buy programs anymore?

Robb
While I love ribbing Clarkson about anything as much as the next guy, marrying cousins was quite common in this country in the 1800s.

...and is still legal in many states.

Beeeej

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With others' what?

Trotsky

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With others' what?

Use your imagination, with regard to what the players are sitting in. I think that's the point of the poster.

Kyle

captain obvious strikes again

Dpperk29
captain obvious strikes again

Why are you going after me? It's not my fault he didn't get it. A "Captain Clueless" targetted at Greg would have been more appropriate.

Kyle

krose

Dpperk29
captain obvious strikes again

Why are you going after me? It's not my fault he didn't get it. A "Captain Clueless" targetted at Greg would have been more appropriate.

I had the impression Greg was picking on the inappropriate punctuation on the depicted poster, not genuinely asking the question he was asking.

Beeeej

as did I, and I am sorry kyle, If I offended you I did not mean to

IIRC, what made the poster all the more funny was the apostrophe. I think the changed meaning was intentional.

ebilmes
IIRC, what made the poster all the more funny was the apostrophe. I think the changed meaning was intentional.

This is what I'm getting at. The apostrophe is essential to the meaning of the joke, not a mistake.

Kyle

Dpperk29
as did I, and I am sorry kyle, If I offended you I did not mean to

I have a very, very thick skin. No apology necessary.

Kyle

Beeeej

krose

Dpperk29
captain obvious strikes again

Why are you going after me? It's not my fault he didn't get it. A "Captain Clueless" targetted at Greg would have been more appropriate.

I had the impression Greg was picking on the inappropriate punctuation on the depicted poster, not genuinely asking the question he was asking.

It's not inappropriate punctuation if Grant intended for it to mean what it does, which he did.

KeithK
[q]and on that note- how about "Our school doesn't need TV ads" [/q]Have you ever seen the Cornell spots during hockey broadcasts? *cringe*

As I understand it, schools get free air time during televised games, and if that's the case, may as well use it I guess.

Doesn't make those commercials any less crappy though.

Yeh, but I've never been watching Fox68 and seen Cornell in a Devry-esque "get your degree" ad. Plus during hockey broadcasts, it is usually an ad for Cornell athletics.

Y'know, some states make special provisions about "double cousins" marrying each other...

Oooo...yeah. Forgot about that. Double whammy. That's probably not legal anywhere

Hey, watch it. When the brothers married sisters in our family, it was perfectly legal...

your sister is your mother
your uncle is your brother
you all fuck (do) one another
the clarkson fam-i-ly

to the tune of adam's family

Targeted player tonight: #14 Grant CLITsome

I feel like I remember seeing Clitsome on the back of a jersey. Which would mean they have names on the back. Maybe one set does and the other doesn't?

"Nothin says lovin like humpin your cousin" (We wouldn't get away with "fuckin your cousin"

Most of the above possible taunts are hilarious. The problem is the vast majority of fans in attendance won't have a clue. Perhaps some Elynah student fan with a little time on their hands this afternoon might print out and make copies of the original article, for distribution at Lynah tonight. (Proper attribution, so people believe it is true, would probably help. I actually wondered if the article was a joke when I first read it above.)

Once the article had been distributed, it would then be pretty easy for someone in Section A or B (assuming these things were well distributed in at least A and B) to start a "Big Red / In-bred" cheer that would catch on. And from there, let the floodgates open.

If anyone chooses to take this on, I'll be happy to help with distribution into Section C, if you have enough copies. Post here, and we can work out the details.
Andy W.

Yes!!!

I've put together a file that should be print-ready, if someone wants to take this to the next step. I will try to attach it here.
Andy W.

Edit-Apparently I was not able to attach the file. If someone could host the file, I'll be happy to send it along. (I think it looks pretty good, if I do say so myself. I even corrected the spellings of Streatfield and Streatfeild to make them consistent.)

Their awful looking new jerseys do have names on the back

andyw2100
Most of the above possible taunts are hilarious. The problem is the vast majority of fans in attendance won't have a clue. Perhaps some Elynah student fan with a little time on their hands this afternoon might print out and make copies of the original article, for distribution at Lynah tonight. (Proper attribution, so people believe it is true, would probably help. I actually wondered if the article was a joke when I first read it above.)

Once the article had been distributed, it would then be pretty easy for someone in Section A or B (assuming these things were well distributed in at least A and B) to start a "Big Red / In-bred" cheer that would catch on. And from there, let the floodgates open.

If anyone chooses to take this on, I'll be happy to help with distribution into Section C, if you have enough copies. Post here, and we can work out the details.
Andy W.

given the richness of the subject matter we would be irresponsible to not distribute copies of these articles. Why should we have all the fun with this?

andyw2100
Most of the above possible taunts are hilarious. The problem is the vast majority of fans in attendance won't have a clue.

Once the article had been distributed, it would then be pretty easy for someone in Section A or B (assuming these things were well distributed in at least A and B) to start a "Big Red / In-bred" cheer that would catch on. And from there, let the floodgates open./quote]

Perhaps a lot of fans will have a clue since, as suggested earlier, there's a lot of "inbreds" in the Ithaca area too.

given the richness of the subject matter we would be irresponsible to not distribute copies of these articles. Why should we have all the fun with this?

I've got the thing looking good, ready to go. All we need is for a student to step forward and offer to reproduce and distribute them. I'd also be happy to post what I've done, but I don't have anywhere to post it.

I think I'll start a new thread, looking for a student volunteer...
Andy W.

That's bad (and yet so good).

dustbin321
your sister is your mother
your uncle is your brother
you all fuck (do) one another
the clarkson fam-i-ly

to the tune of adam's family

Please do this!!

I hand out newspapers all the time in sections D and E. If someone prints it out, I will be glad to distribute it in my section while giving out newspapers.

Jim
I hand out newspapers all the time in sections D and E. If someone prints it out, I will be glad to distribute it in my section while giving out newspapers.

I'd check with some usher or athletics person before doing it (if you chose to). I think someone got tossed in B this year for something similar.

Good point, i'll keep it in mind

Oat

dustbin321
your sister is your mother
your uncle is your brother
you all do one another
the clarkson fam-i-ly

to the tune of adam's family

Please do this!!

I have to say, it does work quite nicely. May I suggest that people continue the song with the

da-da-da-da (snap, snap)
da-da-da-da (snap, snap)
da-da-da-da (snap, snap)
da-da-da-da (snap, snap)

Great ideas! Better than I had even imagined. I knew you guys would be able to run with this the moment I saw the article. And all because my sister happened to be visiting my mother and wanted me to come by for a couple of hours, during which I skimmed the headlines of the local North Country newspaper.

Did any of these new cheers work Friday? I didn't hear the broadcast. Now that you have a night of practice I hope they are good for tonight. I will be in section F and look forward to helping out.

cth95
Great ideas! Better than I had even imagined. I knew you guys would be able to run with this the moment I saw the article. And all because my sister happened to be visiting my mother and wanted me to come by for a couple of hours, during which I skimmed the headlines of the local North Country newspaper.

Did any of these new cheers work Friday? I didn't hear the broadcast. Now that you have a night of practice I hope they are good for tonight. I will be in section F and look forward to helping out.

I was in Section C, and didn't hear any cheers related to this topic. I had even printed out and distributed a few of the fliers that I had put together. I tried to get them into B, C, and D. Oh well.

I'm still willing to send the file to anyone who might be willing and able to do a better job of reproducing and distributing it.

And I highly recommend "Big Red / In-bred" as the first inbreeding cheer. It is simple, and should catch on.
Andy W.

andyw2100

cth95
Great ideas! Better than I had even imagined. I knew you guys would be able to run with this the moment I saw the article. And all because my sister happened to be visiting my mother and wanted me to come by for a couple of hours, during which I skimmed the headlines of the local North Country newspaper.

Did any of these new cheers work Friday? I didn't hear the broadcast. Now that you have a night of practice I hope they are good for tonight. I will be in section F and look forward to helping out.

I was in Section C, and didn't hear any cheers related to this topic. I had even printed out and distributed a few of the fliers that I had put together. I tried to get them into B, C, and D. Oh well.

I'm still willing to send the file to anyone who might be willing and able to do a better job of reproducing and distributing it.

And I highly recommend "Big Red / In-bred" as the first inbreeding cheer. It is simple, and should catch on.
Andy W.

Well over in G and F, we got a Big Reg / In-bred chant going. As well as Kissing cousins clap clap clapclapclap. I would say we were lacking full partipation but still enought to make it worthwhile. Of the two, big red / in-bred worked best. Nothing else to do but give it another go tonight.

One more cheer, i don't know if people would endorse it but for Hey Bâby, i just sang Hey Hey Cousin, i wanna know will you kiss someone... A few people joined in.

i was in section G...and I felt a little odd participating in those cheers, including any of the ones which involved cursing, just because there was a father with his like 6 year old daughter in front. i guess it doesnt really make a difference, since i'm right next to H anyways so wahther we yell they hear, but out of respect I refrained from yelling anything bad, since it would of gone right into their ears

WillR
One more cheer, i don't know if people would endorse it but for Hey Bâby, i just sang Hey Hey Cousin, i wanna know will you kiss someone... A few people joined in.

Heeeey... heeey Clarkson.... we wanna knooooow... why you screw your moms