Cheering for tonight
Posted by Stewball
Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Stewball (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 05:29PM
Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere... who are we cheering for tonight? SLU so we play a TUC in round 2, or Brown so we have an easier opponent? How much would sweeping Clarkson (if it happened of course) help?
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: French Rage (---.Stanford.EDU)
Date: March 05, 2006 05:35PM
Playing Clarkson would put our future more in our own hands. Assuming we beat (preferrably sweep) them, they are either no longer a TUC (as the 1-1 hurts us now) or they are but were are then 3-1 against them. Otherwise, we have to hope that whoever they play beats them.
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: A-19 (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 05:41PM
well, we have a 7-4-1 tuc record (0.625). if we sweep clarkson AND they remain a TUC, we'd have a 9-4-1 record, or 0.679, plus any TUC victories we would pickup in Albany (goal = 11-4-1, or maybe 13-4-1 if niagara becomes a TUC).
right now, of the 9 teams we are losing a comparison to now, in only 4 of them do we have the weaker TUC (UNO, miami, wisc, minny). since the better RPI is the tiebreaker, unless we surpass miami wisc or minny in rpi, a better TUC record won't do it for us (this is of course assuming that their TUC records do not also rise as a result of their own tourneys).
then again, those wins will also increase our rpi as well.
so it seems like 2 clarkson wins may not help us out as much as we'd think, though there are alot of other factors here. then again, anything adding to our stats certainly helps come selection time.
right now, of the 9 teams we are losing a comparison to now, in only 4 of them do we have the weaker TUC (UNO, miami, wisc, minny). since the better RPI is the tiebreaker, unless we surpass miami wisc or minny in rpi, a better TUC record won't do it for us (this is of course assuming that their TUC records do not also rise as a result of their own tourneys).
then again, those wins will also increase our rpi as well.
so it seems like 2 clarkson wins may not help us out as much as we'd think, though there are alot of other factors here. then again, anything adding to our stats certainly helps come selection time.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.0.125.80.adsl.snet.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 05:43PM
Consider this. If Harvard plays Clarkson and Cornell plays Q and both high seeds sweep, Harvard flips the Cornell comparison on TUC because they would get two TUC wins and Cornell would get 0. Of course if SLU wins, then both teams play TUCs.
Comparison to 2004 be damned, I'd prefer to see the Knights in Lynah again next week.
Comparison to 2004 be damned, I'd prefer to see the Knights in Lynah again next week.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: oceanst41 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2006 06:21PM
Well I'm assuming playing a better team (i.e. Clarkson) would help or RPI more than playing the weaker opponent.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 06:22PM
Do we want to cheer for the outcomes that help us most in power / RPI rankings ... or for the team that's going to give us a better matchup in a week? Remaining 5- to 12-seeds before Sunday's St. Lawrence-Brown third game:
5 St. Lawrence ?
8 Clarkson
10 Quinnipiac
11 Yale
12 Brown ?
As No. 3 seed, Cornell must play the second-highest seed among survivors. Who would you rather see roll into Lynah next Friday: Clarkson or Quinnipiac?
If Brown loses, we get Clarkson. OTOH, maybe No. 11 Yale has a better chance of knocking off the top seed than No. 12 Brown does next week.
5 St. Lawrence ?
8 Clarkson
10 Quinnipiac
11 Yale
12 Brown ?
As No. 3 seed, Cornell must play the second-highest seed among survivors. Who would you rather see roll into Lynah next Friday: Clarkson or Quinnipiac?
If Brown loses, we get Clarkson. OTOH, maybe No. 11 Yale has a better chance of knocking off the top seed than No. 12 Brown does next week.
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 06:32PM
Don't rain on the PWR-obsession party, Bill. Everybody knows that the only thing that matters is the NCAAs. Beating Harvard, winning the ECACs... all meaningless, as long as Cornell gets a 1 slot push in the pairwise.
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 06:39PM
well i am personally cheering for brown. I think that if cornell is destined to do anything in albany and beyond playing any team or clarkson wont matter - they will win if they will win. my reason, getting tickets from the clarkson ticket office is impossible. I have off, my wife has off next weekend, yet we cant find tickets. Q would be easier to get tix from. call me selfish...
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 06:48PM
Well, of course we go to the dance if we win the ECACs. If you're assuming or hoping we make it, then the better our ranking, um, hopefully, we don't get sent to a place beyond driving distance of the faithful. So for that reason it would be nice to have all the right teams win and lose to help our comparative standing.
Probably the most important thing right now is how many natural defensemen dress and play effectively this weekend and, one hopes it goes that far, in Albany.
We really think Quinnipac is an easier opponent next weekend than Clarkson?
Probably the most important thing right now is how many natural defensemen dress and play effectively this weekend and, one hopes it goes that far, in Albany.
We really think Quinnipac is an easier opponent next weekend than Clarkson?
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: ebilmes (---.0.127.207.adsl.snet.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 06:54PM
billhoward
We really think Quinnipac is an easier opponent next weekend than Clarkson?
Yes?
Regardless of the PWR implications, I think our inconsistency this year has shown that we can't take anyone for granted. It would be idiotic to assume that we'll sweep Clarkson. Though we wouldn't glean any PWR boost from playing Q, I would feel slightly more confident about our ability to beat them in a series than I would about our ability to beat Clarkson. And in the interest of getting to Albany, I would choose to face Q.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:47PM
crap, saints go up 2-1 12 minutes into the 3rd
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Turkeybone (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:48PM
[Q]If you're assuming or hoping we make it, then the better our ranking, um, hopefully, we don't get sent to a place beyond driving distance of the faithful. [/Q]
You mean like, Hawaii?
You mean like, Hawaii?
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:49PM
this game is insane
2-2
2-2
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Ack (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:50PM
Turkeybone
[Q]If you're assuming or hoping we make it, then the better our ranking, um, hopefully, we don't get sent to a place beyond driving distance of the faithful. [/Q]
You mean like, Hawaii?
H1, H2, and H3 are pretty scenic interstates though.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Ack (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:51PM
Maybe we should put all updates on this thread instead of PWR and others.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:55PM
another goal, brown just cant get ahead
3-2 slu
3-2 slu
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: redhair34 (---.ilr.cornell.edu)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:55PM
Well its pretty clear who Clarkson fans are cheering for (disclaimer: small sample size) [goldenknightshockey.com]
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:59PM
well...looks like i will be calling clarkson tomorrow AM unless brown does not go around the bowl the rest of the game
anyone know any clarkson alumni?
4-2 slu(T)
anyone know any clarkson alumni?
4-2 slu(T)
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: trainbow (---.phil.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 09:02PM
4-3 SLU
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 09:08PM
Game in progress, game over?trainbow
4-3 SLU
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: kingpin248 (205.246.157.---)
Date: March 05, 2006 09:14PM
4-4 on a Brown extra-attacker goal with 3.3 seconds left. Game headed to OT.
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: kaaren (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: March 05, 2006 09:14PM
Brown ties it up with 3 seconds to go in the third. 4-4 into overtime.
LGR!!!
LGR!!!
Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2006 09:21PM
Let's go to the Link For Sunday ... Thread. So we can all be on the same page. What a weekend.
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Re: Cheering for tonight
Posted by: trainbow (---.phil.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 09:38PM
SLU 5-4 in OT
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