CSTV Poll: Best student section in hockey

[www.cstv.com]

It's at 23.8%--let's see how much we can move it.

Oh, that's right, their entire student section consists of Angry Hippie, Button-down Asshole, and that skinny naked guy with his 2 or 3 obnoxious buddies.

That one calls for ballot-stuffing.

We're up to 29%...

jmh30
That one calls for ballot-stuffing.

Don't they all call for ballot stuffing?

(Well, online polls related to Cornell hockey anyway.)

up to 34.x % when I voted

KeithK

jmh30
That one calls for ballot-stuffing.

Don't they all call for ballot stuffing?

(Well, online polls related to Cornell hockey anyway.)

Yeah, but this one is actually about US!

(Well, I mean, if you consider "student section" to extend to former students who're still vocal fans.)

36% when I voted. Keep stuffing y'all.

36.8%

Killer, who you talking about?

No one's written a script yet? How disappointing.

French Rage
36.8%

Killer, who you talking about?

Read his subject line.

39.0%

39.9%...Unfortunately, unlike the Coyotes poll, you can only vote once.

Just hit the 40% mark

ebilmes
39.9%...Unfortunately, unlike the Coyotes poll, you can only vote once.

Hahaha! Just because they say it, doesn't make it so...

40.7

You just need to delete the cookie that tells them that you've voted before. However, I'm too lazy to find it right now.

Not necessarily. My poll logs IP in addition to using cookies. If you delete the cookie and vote again from the same IP, it won't count it. That's standard practice these days, so I don't waste your time.

43.2 %, after me and my fiancee voted.
Andy W.

Good point. OK, so delete your IP and then reconnect my DSL each time when I'm home.

or goto the computer lab at school and go one by one down the row no cookie deleting needed

50.6

Anybody besides me think that stuffing any further is a stupid idea?

Not that it's a scientific poll to begin with, and not that the results "matter," but IMHO ratcheting up the numbers unnecessarily is a really good way to convince CSTV that the ballot box has been stuffed, that they should take the poll down immediately, and that they shouldn't announce a winner or even acknowledge the poll ever happened.

Beeeej

Beeeej
Anybody besides me think that stuffing any further is a stupid idea?

Not that it's a scientific poll to begin with, and not that the results "matter," but IMHO ratcheting up the numbers unnecessarily is a really good way to convince CSTV that the ballot box has been stuffed, that they should take the poll down immediately, and that they shouldn't announce a winner or even acknowledge the poll ever happened.

Beeeej

I agree. 60.2% is high enough.

...and gives the other schools a chance to try some ballot-stuffing of their own, at which point we can always restuff.

Beeeej

60.3%. I guess somebody didn't agree.

BTW, does it take anyone else about 45 seconds for the CSTV index page to load? I find that very fitting.

andyw2100
43.2 %, after me and my fiancee voted.
Andy W.

Congrats!

jmh30
That one calls for ballot-stuffing.

Treat the poll with the appropriate dignity and gravitas.

Just voted - 61.7%

billhoward

jmh30
That one calls for ballot-stuffing.

Treat the poll with the appropriate dignity and gravitas.

We did.

In this particular case, even the stuffed poll results may mean something when the question is along the lines of which fan base is most dedicated. The most dedicated fans put the most effort into stuffing the ballot box or at least promoting the poll to influence the result.

It's not that big a leap from "best student section" to "most absurdly dedicated fans with no lives," but I don't think that's quite what they were hoping to learn.

Beeeej

Beeeej
I don't think that's quite what they were hoping to learn.

Seeing as it's already been long established.

More to the point, why isn't tUMD listed. Oh, right, they're not a big school with name recognition.

KeithK
In this particular case, even the stuffed poll results may mean something when the question is along the lines of which fan base is most dedicated. The most dedicated fans put the most effort into stuffing the ballot box or at least promoting the poll to influence the result.

I can sleep at night with that justification.

French Rage
I can sleep at night with that justification.

Slut!

Beeeej

62.1

I don't know; I don't see any reason not to ballot stuff. If we truly believe Cornell has the best student section, then why shouldn't we vote in the poll until we get the result that we feel is right? If some of us are dedicated enough to ballot stuff, my feeling is, why not?

ebilmes
I don't know; I don't see any reason not to ballot stuff. If we truly believe Cornell has the best student section, then why shouldn't we vote in the poll until we get the result that we feel is right? If some of us are dedicated enough to ballot stuff, my feeling is, why not?

And if I really feel that my political party has the best plan for good government, why shouldn't I ballot stuff in November?

But seriously, it's a metter of what the poll is trying to determine. If it's trying to measure fan dedication then ballot stuffing may lead to a useful result. If it's about measuring the opinions of the readers of the web site then an unstuffed poll will be a better measure. Of course, our efforts at promotion, encouraging folks to go and vote, probably make this poll useless for getting a real measure of opinion. But to varying degrees that's a feature of all online, self-selected polls.

KeithK
promotion

I agree. I think the point of the poll (at least for us) is to increase our exposure as a fan base. A convincing lead in this poll might get us a couple seconds of attention by college hockey fans. If the point of the poll was merely scientific, then a voluntary response online poll really wouldn't be the right choice, anyway.

62.8% with my late addition and why is it ballot stuffing if we are all voting or has someone actually written a script that works?

It's only ballot stuffing if someone has taken steps to vote multiple times, manually or via a script I did vote 3 times, but if they check IP's as Age suggests then I'll have no more than 1 counted.

Scripts have been written and shown to be effective in the past - Lenny's seleciton as more impressive rookie for Phoenix I believe. I'm not sure the rate of change here is quite so dramatic as to indicate scripting. Especially since the Coyotes probably get mroe visitors to their site than the CSTV hockey page gets.

Since I'm sure all CSTV cares about is generating traffic to their website so they can show impressive numbers to potential advertisers, I'm willing to bet that CSTV is pleased as punch to have generated a stuffing campaign for a poll that means approximately diddly times squat.

Whaddya mean it means diddly squat! I thought we had already established that it shows that we are "most absurdly dedicated fans with no lives".

I may or may not have voted 5 times. Clearing the cookie and refreshing the page may or may not allow you to vote again.

Tell me, I just voted again on another computer on my home network. Currently 63.9%, is my second vote counted?

When i voted it was 67.4%

What do they say in politics, "vote early, and vote often"?

-WillR

Well you can always either change your MAC address or forward it to a site that then forwards it to the actual site changing your ip address.

If you have DSL, your IP will change frequently enough, but cable modems seem to hang on to IPs with unusual tenacity. Any computer behind a router will have the same IP, and even if you swapped the computer hooked up to the cable modem, it would probably stay the same, unless you leave the modem powerless for a couple hours at least.

68.2

68.6

Wisconsin's trying to fight back. Down from 68.9 -> 68.7.

Kyle

Back to 69.1. There may or may not be a bank of computers that we can use here at work...

RichH
Since I'm sure all CSTV cares about is generating traffic to their website so they can show impressive numbers to potential advertisers, I'm willing to bet that CSTV is pleased as punch to have generated a stuffing campaign for a poll that means approximately diddly times squat.

Show how much you know... it means approximately diddly to the power of squat.

Beeeej

Beeeej
Show how much you know... it means approximately diddly to the power of squat.

I think this is indeterminate. x^0 as x->0 from the right is 1, but 0^x as x->0 from the right is 0.

Which I think goes along better with the impact of the poll: who knows.

Cheers,
Kyle

It would have been much closer voting if one of the choices was "Cal Tech."

What's next: stuff for only 1 HEA team in the Tourney?