6th defenseman
Posted by Dpperk29
6th defenseman
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 14, 2006 10:43PM
Who should be the 6th defenseman for the big red? Salmela, or glover?
honestly, I feel it should be salmela. The Kid is a solid skater, has a good shot, and jumps in the rush whenever he can.
however, glover is a great stay at home defender who can shut another team down...
what do other people think?
honestly, I feel it should be salmela. The Kid is a solid skater, has a good shot, and jumps in the rush whenever he can.
however, glover is a great stay at home defender who can shut another team down...
what do other people think?
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Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: January 14, 2006 10:45PM
Dpperk29
Who should be the 6th defenseman for the big red? Salmela, or glover?
honestly, I feel it should be salmela. The Kid is a solid skater, has a good shot, and jumps in the rush whenever he can.
however, glover is a great stay at home defender who can shut another team down...
what do other people think?
I think the answer is neither...Glover isn't our 6th defenseman. He's just been banged up--he's out of the lineup due to injuries, not because of play. I'm guessing Krantz is probably our 6th defenseman. Between Krantz and Salmela...I'm indifferent, maybe slight edge to Krantz. Both have trouble turning over the puck and both have offensive skills. Krantz is very fast, and consequently he is a key penalty killer especially in 5X3 situations.
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Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 14, 2006 11:07PM
glover was out of the lineup in late november/early december because he was playing miserably
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Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: January 15, 2006 12:37AM
Dpperk29
glover was out of the lineup in late november/early december because he was playing miserably
He was injured.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 15, 2006 07:09PM
Perhaps if, as Dpperk29 suggests, Glover was playing terribly at that point, it was because he was injured?
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 15, 2006 07:29PM
jmh30
Perhaps if, as Dpperk29 suggests, Glover was playing terribly at that point, it was because he was injured?
They you go, using logic to make a point. We'll have none of that here!
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Ben Rocky '04 (24.72.228.---)
Date: January 15, 2006 09:29PM
I've been really impressed by Salmela, and I'd keep him around instead of Pokulok personally.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 16, 2006 12:12PM
ditto, though the coaching staff seems to think pokulok is wonderful...
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"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.
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Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: January 16, 2006 12:35PM
So does the NHL...Dpperk29
ditto, though the coaching staff seems to think pokulok is wonderful...
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: January 16, 2006 12:44PM
So do I. Or at least capable of great things. Salmela and Krantz, on the other hand, wouldn't know defense if it kicked them in the nuts.
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Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: January 16, 2006 12:48PM
Glover is ahead of Krantz on the depth chart. He got hurt on Friday night and thus didn't play on Saturday. I like Salmela a lot but the first Princeton goal and ultimately the difference in the game was his missed assignment.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: January 16, 2006 12:52PM
Definitely. Pokulok is a 19 year old sophomore who has a load of talent. Even though he makes some mistaks (and mistakes by a defenseman are often very obvious) he's still a quality player.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Dafatone (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 16, 2006 01:07PM
Pokulok did look pretty good against Princeton up until the 2nd goal. I haven't been particularly impressed with Salmela. He's not big, he doesn't strike me as especially fast, and he seems to be out of position more often than I'd like. On the other hand, Glover at least has some size going for him. As to Krantz, he's improved from where he was at the beginning of the year, but I'm not sure that's really saying much.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 16, 2006 07:28PM
Ben Rocky 04
I've been really impressed by Salmela, and I'd keep him around instead of Pokulok personally.
Well Pokuluk had the best weekend of his Cornell career this past weekend and was the most dominant player on the ice against Quinnipiac. I like Salmela but he was awful defensively against Princeton and was the one who missed his assignment on the decisive Princeton first goal.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 16, 2006 10:00PM
calgARI '07
...was the one who missed his assignment on the decisive Princeton first goal.
He was supposed to be covering Gleed??
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 17, 2006 01:21PM
DeltaOne81calgARI '07
...was the one who missed his assignment on the decisive Princeton first goal.
He was supposed to be covering Gleed??
No, he lost the race to the puck because he wasn't skating his hardest because he didn't think anyone was coming. The guy should never have even touched the puck.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: duffs4 (209.150.239.---)
Date: January 17, 2006 01:57PM
I didn't see the Princton game, who's defensive lapse caused the second goal?
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Avash (---.net.nih.gov)
Date: January 17, 2006 02:51PM
duffs4
I didn't see the Princton game, who's defensive lapse caused the second goal?
It was a defensive lapse by Pokulok (who then remained on the bench for the rest of the game).
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: nr53 (---.arlngt01.va.comcast.net)
Date: January 17, 2006 02:54PM
no, it was an offensive lapse. bobbled the puck at the blue line and got beat by the princeton guy down the ice.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.yw.yu.edu)
Date: January 17, 2006 04:29PM
While that may be the case, it seems a bit unfair to squarely place blame for that goal on anyone.calgARI '07
No, he lost the race to the puck because he wasn't skating his hardest because he didn't think anyone was coming. The guy should never have even touched the puck.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Ben Rocky '04 (---.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2006 09:01AM
Pokulok should have taken him down: he had his stick around him, they were in contact, he just couldn't finish dropping him.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: Dafatone (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 18, 2006 12:15PM
Had Pokulok taken him down, it would've been a penalty.
There were just over 4 minutes left, we were down one goal. This would (barring a shorthanded goal) effectively cut in half the amount of time we had left to tie the game up. I thought letting the man go was a better move, and hoping McKee could come up with a miracle save.
There were just over 4 minutes left, we were down one goal. This would (barring a shorthanded goal) effectively cut in half the amount of time we had left to tie the game up. I thought letting the man go was a better move, and hoping McKee could come up with a miracle save.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2006 01:25AM
McKee has really struggled with breakaways this year (hold the shootout in Estero) even since he has gotten his game back.
Doug Krantz
Posted by: LRT (---.pi.shawcable.net)
Date: January 19, 2006 02:14AM
Just wondering how Doug Krantz is doing
so far this season.....Can anyone share
their observations? Thanks
so far this season.....Can anyone share
their observations? Thanks
Re: Doug Krantz
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2006 07:50AM
LRT
Just wondering how Doug Krantz is doing
so far this season.....Can anyone share
their observations? Thanks
He was Cornell's worst player for about a month earlier in the season when his ice time and responsibility were increased with the injuries of Gleed and Glover. With Gleed coming back and Pokuluk's re-emergence, Krantz has seen a lot less ice time and responsibility so he's been better of late. Unfortunately, he appears to be more of a career third pair defenseman at best rather than a second pair guy. He just doesn't have the hockey sense or intensity to do any more, IMO.
Re: 6th defenseman
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 21, 2006 04:37PM
Maybe even a penalty shot. So why don't we just assume that Pokulok did take him down, and then Princeton scored on the penalty shot.Dafatone
Had Pokulok taken [G-Z] down, it would've been a penalty.
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