Polls 10/3/05
Posted by Chris 02
Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 07:08PM
USCHO.com/CSTV Division I Men's Poll October 3, 2005 Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Year 1 Denver (17) 32-9-2 662 1 2 Minnesota (13) 28-15-1 653 7 3 Boston College ( 2) 26-7-7 583 2 4 Cornell 27-5-3 580 4 5 Ohio State ( 2) 27-11-4 566 9 6 Colorado College 31-9-3 523 3 7 North Dakota ( 1) 25-15-5 502 10 8 Michigan 31-8-3 481 5 9 New Hampshire 26-11-5 459 6 10 Wisconsin ( 1) 23-14-4 391 13 11 Maine 20-13-7 309 12 12 Northern Michigan 22-11-7 270 - 13 Boston University 23-14-4 260 11 14 Dartmouth 20-13-2 242 15 15 Harvard 21-10-3 222 8 16 Mass.-Lowell 20-12-4 208 - 17 Michigan State 20-17-4 204 - 18 Colgate 25-11-3 78 14 19 Vermont 21-14-4 51 - -- Minnesota-Duluth 15-17-6 51 - Others Receiving Votes: Bemidji State 40, Nebraska-Omaha 40, Miami 37, St. Lawrence 29, Alabama-Huntsville 17, Massachusetts 17, Mercyhurst 17, Alaska-Fairbanks 15, Minnesota State 15, Clarkson 8, St. Cloud State 8, Rensselaer 6, Brown 5, Holy Cross 3, Lake Superior 2, Quinnipiac 2, Wayne State 2, Bowling Green 1, Ferris State 1
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll October 3, 2005 Team Pts (1st) Last Record Wks In Poll 1 University of Minnesota 464 (17) 4 28-15-1 2 University of Denver 449 (14) 1 32- 9-2 3 The Ohio State University 380 (2) 9 27-11-4 Cornell University 380 5 27- 5-3 5 Boston College 375 (1) 7 26- 7-7 6 University of North Dakota 323 3 25-15-5 7 Colorado College 318 2 31- 9-3 8 University of Michigan 284 6 31- 8-3 9 University of New Hampshire 263 8 26-11-5 10 University of Wisconsin 184 13 23-14-4 11 University of Maine 147 11 20-13-7 12 Boston University 99 12 23-14-4 13 Northern Michigan University 98 NR 22-11-7 14 Dartmouth College 73 NR 20-13-2 15 Harvard University 65 10 21-10-3 Others receiving votes: University of Massachusetts Lowell 60, Michigan State University 54, Colgate University 20, University of Vermont 12, Mercyhurst College 10, University of Minnesota Duluth 9, College of the Holy Cross 6, University of Nebraska Omaha 4, University of Massachusetts Amherst 1, St. Cloud State University 1, St. Lawrence University 1.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 07:17PM
The polls mean nothing.
Nevertheless, it's nice to get a little recognition from the pundits.
Nevertheless, it's nice to get a little recognition from the pundits.
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 07:18PM
So we'r3e going to start listing the top 20 now? Ridiculous.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: ajec1 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 03, 2005 07:41PM
[Q]Will Wrote:
The polls mean nothing.
[/q]
It does mean that the college hockey abyss is over!
The polls mean nothing.
[/q]
It does mean that the college hockey abyss is over!
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 07:50PM
[Q]ajec1 Wrote:
Will Wrote:
The polls mean nothing.
[/Q]
It does mean that the college hockey abyss is over!
[/q]
Good point.
Let's play hockey.
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Robb (---.northgrum.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 08:18PM
Any guesses on how long it will take fans of the teams immediately below us to proclaim that they should be above us once they have a few easy wins under their belts? Too lazy to check the schedules, but I assume that OSU, BC, NoDak, et. al. will play at least a couple cupcakes before our first game...
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 08:27PM
OSU: at CC (2), at BG, BG
BC: at Mich, at BG, at NU
UND: vs. Miami, vs. MSU, NU (2), at NH (2)
CC: Union, Maine, OSU (2), NotreDame, Air Force
Mich: Q (2), BC, Merrimack, MSU
BC: at Mich, at BG, at NU
UND: vs. Miami, vs. MSU, NU (2), at NH (2)
CC: Union, Maine, OSU (2), NotreDame, Air Force
Mich: Q (2), BC, Merrimack, MSU
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: BCrespi (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 09:00PM
Wow, those should be some great early season games. Who's getting pumped?
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: calgARI '07 (209.2.88.---)
Date: October 03, 2005 09:16PM
My pick to win it all is Ohio State. They only lost one or two guys from last year's team.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: KeithK (---.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
Date: October 03, 2005 09:55PM
Yeah, but do they still have the awful country music singer?
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: redhair34 (128.84.198.---)
Date: October 03, 2005 10:03PM
awful??? His girlfriend said he has a great voice
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: October 03, 2005 11:51PM
Nice opening ranking; our best in the Schafer Era.
USCHO Ranking:
Season, Start, End, Improvement
01-02, 16th, 9th, +7
02-03, 8th, 1st, +7
03-04, 9th, 20th, -11
04-05, 13th, 4th, +9
05-06, 4th
USCHO Ranking:
Season, Start, End, Improvement
01-02, 16th, 9th, +7
02-03, 8th, 1st, +7
03-04, 9th, 20th, -11
04-05, 13th, 4th, +9
05-06, 4th
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/2005 11:56PM by Trotsky.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 11:53PM
Well it shows that they at least respect us. Whether it means anything about the success for the season is doubtful.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Ack (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 04, 2005 12:10AM
Don't forget the apple pie...
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Bryan '06 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 04, 2005 12:11AM
Wow, everyone should really be watching that CC/Union game. I had no idea they faced each other until I saw this post...thanks KeithK. Anyone else have a feeling the outcome of this game will have a huge impact on our PWR this spring?
Go UNION!
Go UNION!
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: jy3 (---.kaleidahealth.org)
Date: October 04, 2005 03:16AM
anyone seen sucks OOS?
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Ack (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 04, 2005 08:27AM
Who's butt did they kiss?
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: sockralex (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 04, 2005 08:41AM
[Q]Ack Wrote:
Who's butt did they kiss?[/q]
Maybe they are putting that endowment to work.
Who's butt did they kiss?[/q]
Maybe they are putting that endowment to work.
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.raytheon.com)
Date: October 04, 2005 09:06AM
Chances are UND won't return the trip (I could be wrong and would like if I was, but I figure not). Hence, Cornell wouldn't do it. The rest are pretty much local rivals for them (UNH is arguable, but they certainly travel to Boston enough anyway).
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Robb (---.losaca.adelphia.net)
Date: October 04, 2005 09:36AM
You left out another game vs. BU (they have one at home, and another in the first round of the beanpot). So they have exactly one home OOC game - that would never be acceptable to Schafer, regardless of return trips in later years. I agree with him - this should be about hockey, not money, and we've been a legit top-10 team for the last 4-5 years (stupid Clarkson series notwithstanding 
). Other teams have to reciprocate, period.
). Other teams have to reciprocate, period.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: French Rage (---.Stanford.EDU)
Date: October 04, 2005 03:36PM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:
OSU: at CC (2), at BG, BG
BC: at Mich, at BG, at NU
UND: vs. Miami, vs. MSU, NU (2), at NH (2)
CC: Union, Maine, OSU (2), NotreDame, Air Force
Mich: Q (2), BC, Merrimack, MSU
[/q]
What happened to UND's usual opening schedule of Canisus, Canisus, Canisus, and Canisus?
OSU: at CC (2), at BG, BG
BC: at Mich, at BG, at NU
UND: vs. Miami, vs. MSU, NU (2), at NH (2)
CC: Union, Maine, OSU (2), NotreDame, Air Force
Mich: Q (2), BC, Merrimack, MSU
[/q]
What happened to UND's usual opening schedule of Canisus, Canisus, Canisus, and Canisus?
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: October 04, 2005 04:43PM
The part of Canisius will be played by Northeastern.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Tub(a) (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: October 04, 2005 04:55PM
[Q]French Rage Wrote:
KeithK Wrote:
OSU: at CC (2), at BG, BG
BC: at Mich, at BG, at NU
UND: vs. Miami, vs. MSU, NU (2), at NH (2)
CC: Union, Maine, OSU (2), NotreDame, Air Force
Mich: Q (2), BC, Merrimack, MSU
[/Q]
What happened to UND's usual opening schedule of Canisus, Canisus, Canisus, and Canisus?[/q]
I don't know, but go MSU!!
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 04, 2005 10:03PM
[Q]jy3 Wrote:
anyone seen sucks OOS?
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)[/q]
Oh man, they're gonna get SMOKED.
anyone seen sucks OOS?
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)[/q]
Oh man, they're gonna get SMOKED.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.ny5030.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 04, 2005 10:14PM
[Q]jmh30 Wrote:
jy3 Wrote:
anyone seen sucks OOS?
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)[/Q]
Oh man, they're gonna get SMOKED.[/q]
Well no kidding. They play in the EZAC.
Great news
Posted by: MNetravali (216.170.107.---)
Date: October 04, 2005 10:57PM
This is very good news, and not that unexpected. While I certainly agree this ranking has no bearing on our end result, the respect is well deserved by our team. Sure it draws the attention of our opponents, but it also catches the eyes of recruits. Hopefully all of this will continue to build in the upcoming years. I remember when Mark Mazzoleni came to Harvard 8 years ago he commented that he thought Harvard could be the "Michigan" of the ECAC. Good vision, but wrong team.
As for the upcoming season, we have a great oppotunity to return to the FF. Barring major injuries, I still think our league opponents are a notch below us this year and I still think the early games against MSU will be the key to our seeding.
As for Harvard's OOC schedule, they have the potential to go .500 against those teams. As nice as it would be if they beat those teams from our standpoint, it might be too much to ask from the third best hockey school and second best academic school in Boston.
This is going to be fun to watch. Wish I had tix.
As for the upcoming season, we have a great oppotunity to return to the FF. Barring major injuries, I still think our league opponents are a notch below us this year and I still think the early games against MSU will be the key to our seeding.
As for Harvard's OOC schedule, they have the potential to go .500 against those teams. As nice as it would be if they beat those teams from our standpoint, it might be too much to ask from the third best hockey school and second best academic school in Boston.
This is going to be fun to watch. Wish I had tix.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.16-236.gtb.net)
Date: October 04, 2005 11:36PM
[Q]jmh30 Wrote:
jy3 Wrote:
anyone seen sucks OOS?
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)[/Q]
Oh man, they're gonna get SMOKED.[/q]
Yeah, this isn't lacrosse. Having a strong non-conference schedule doesn't help you if you lose all of them.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: cbuckser (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date: October 04, 2005 11:50PM
North Dakota travelled to Princeton and Yale in November 2002, so I would not be surprised if North Dakota plays a game or two at Harvard next season or in 2007-08.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: $ucks (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 04, 2005 11:59PM
You think that was a big F-YOU to the Donato coaching staff?
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 05, 2005 02:02AM
[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:
jmh30 Wrote:
jy3 Wrote:
anyone seen sucks OOS?
while we were pointing out important matchups for pwr...
Harvard (@BC, @UNH, @UND x2, BU, BC/NE)[/Q]
Oh man, they're gonna get SMOKED.[/Q]
Well no kidding. They play in the EZAC.
[/q]They're not going to get smoked because they play in the EZAC (I could see us winning 4 or 5 games out of the 7 NC games they have). They're going to get smoked because they graduated three of their top seven forwards, two of their top three defensemen, and the goalie who played the vast majority of their minutes for the last four years. They've still got some talent in Pelle and others, but that schedule is brutal. They take four points out of those games, tops, and that's assuming they don't stink it up in the Beanpot.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Pace (---.opac.cornell.edu)
Date: October 05, 2005 06:30PM
Where can I watch the CC/Union game? I remember USCHO used to have a TV schedule, but I can't find it. Does it still exist, or will college hockey no longer be broadcast?
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Beeeej (---.z065105093.nyc-ny.dsl.cnc.net)
Date: October 05, 2005 06:46PM
I think he meant "watch" as in "pay attention to."
On the other hand, I can't find a TV schedule on USCHO, either, other than a thread on the discussion board. But we already know for sure that some college hockey games will be on TV this year, as every year.
Beeeej
On the other hand, I can't find a TV schedule on USCHO, either, other than a thread on the discussion board. But we already know for sure that some college hockey games will be on TV this year, as every year.
Beeeej
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Beeeej (---.z065105093.nyc-ny.dsl.cnc.net)
Date: October 05, 2005 07:13PM
Whoa! INCH scoops USCHO on actual substance!!
Beeeej
Beeeej
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: redhair34 (---.pac.mannlib.cornell.edu)
Date: October 05, 2005 07:19PM
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
I'm too lazy to check to see if this includes games the INCH schedule doesn't
I'm too lazy to check to see if this includes games the INCH schedule doesn't
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Beeeej (---.z065105093.nyc-ny.dsl.cnc.net)
Date: October 05, 2005 07:42PM
I already know it does - INCH's doesn't have the Harvard@Cornell game. On the other hand, CHN has it as 7pm when it's been moved to 5pm.
Beeeej
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Pace (---.opac.cornell.edu)
Date: October 05, 2005 08:45PM
Thanks!
Look like Union @ CC won't be televised.
Look like Union @ CC won't be televised.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: JDeafv (---.howard01.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 06, 2005 11:05AM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:
So we'r3e going to start listing the top 20 now? Ridiculous. [/q]
Good question. A quick survery from last year showed the opening poll last year really ranked 30 teams (15 in the actual polls, and 15 in "also receiving votes"
. This year's opening poll they have 39 ranked teams (20 in the actual poll, and 19 "also receiving votes".
There are only 58 D-I college hockey programs. That means only 19 schools didn't get a vote in the opening poll! Princeton, Union, and Yale were the 3 from the ECACHL.
By the end of last year, the poll only ranked 22 teams (15 in the actual polls, and 7 in the "also receiving votes". I guess they figured they had at least 20 "ranked teams" all year, so they should expand the polls.
Bottom line : It's overkill to rank 20 teams.
So we'r3e going to start listing the top 20 now? Ridiculous. [/q]
Good question. A quick survery from last year showed the opening poll last year really ranked 30 teams (15 in the actual polls, and 15 in "also receiving votes"
. This year's opening poll they have 39 ranked teams (20 in the actual poll, and 19 "also receiving votes".
There are only 58 D-I college hockey programs. That means only 19 schools didn't get a vote in the opening poll! Princeton, Union, and Yale were the 3 from the ECACHL.
By the end of last year, the poll only ranked 22 teams (15 in the actual polls, and 7 in the "also receiving votes"
. I guess they figured they had at least 20 "ranked teams" all year, so they should expand the polls.
Bottom line : It's overkill to rank 20 teams.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 06, 2005 06:38PM
[Q]JDeafv Wrote:
There are only 58 D-I college hockey programs.
[/q]
59, actually, with the addition of RIT this year. Though they are still D-I Independent and will play a few games against D-III opponents, they should still be counted, particularly since they are on our nonconference slate this season.
There are only 58 D-I college hockey programs.
[/q]
59, actually, with the addition of RIT this year. Though they are still D-I Independent and will play a few games against D-III opponents, they should still be counted, particularly since they are on our nonconference slate this season.
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Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: crodger1 (---.abtassoc.com)
Date: October 06, 2005 07:20PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:
The part of Canisius will be played by Northeastern.[/q]
No kidding. We went to see the Huskies pre-season "Matthew's Madness" Red-White game (yes, Red-White) last weekend. Obviously it's pretty early to judge anything, but I think that the Huskies are going to have a(nother) tough year. But perhaps the new coach will shake things up a bit, but in the pre-season Hockey Least poll they are picked to finish 9th, with Merrimack beating them for 10th place (fwiw, Vermont's picked for the 6th spot).
I think someone posted a while ago that Doug Murray had no problem with laying hits on his own guys in the Red-White game. Well, the kid wearing number 6 (appropriately) for their "red" team seemed to have no problem hacking his own teammates to death. We hoped the coach told him to do so because otherwise I would say it isn't a good way to make friends. (I'll try to track down the roster for his name later and edit the post if I find it).
LGR!
Chris (who had to go to the campus anyway and enjoyed the free pizza)
The part of Canisius will be played by Northeastern.[/q]
No kidding. We went to see the Huskies pre-season "Matthew's Madness" Red-White game (yes, Red-White) last weekend. Obviously it's pretty early to judge anything, but I think that the Huskies are going to have a(nother) tough year. But perhaps the new coach will shake things up a bit, but in the pre-season Hockey Least poll they are picked to finish 9th, with Merrimack beating them for 10th place (fwiw, Vermont's picked for the 6th spot).
I think someone posted a while ago that Doug Murray had no problem with laying hits on his own guys in the Red-White game. Well, the kid wearing number 6 (appropriately) for their "red" team seemed to have no problem hacking his own teammates to death. We hoped the coach told him to do so because otherwise I would say it isn't a good way to make friends. (I'll try to track down the roster for his name later and edit the post if I find it).
LGR!
Chris (who had to go to the campus anyway and enjoyed the free pizza)
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 06, 2005 09:26PM
[Q]Beeeej Wrote:
I already know it does - INCH's doesn't have the Harvard@Cornell game. On the other hand, CHN has it as 7pm when it's been moved to 5pm.
[/q]
But the CollegeHockeyNews schedule has at least one mistake. Tomorrow's SLU @ Wisc game is almost certainly on FSN *North*, not FSN NE.
I already know it does - INCH's doesn't have the Harvard@Cornell game. On the other hand, CHN has it as 7pm when it's been moved to 5pm.
[/q]
But the CollegeHockeyNews schedule has at least one mistake. Tomorrow's SLU @ Wisc game is almost certainly on FSN *North*, not FSN NE.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: Steve M (---.fluor.com)
Date: October 07, 2005 11:04AM
[Q]Bryan '06 Wrote:
Wow, everyone should really be watching that CC/Union game. I had no idea they faced each other until I saw this post...thanks KeithK. Anyone else have a feeling the outcome of this game will have a huge impact on our PWR this spring?
Go UNION![/q]
If Union pulls out a win at CC, it would be a huge upset. So yes it would help our PWR but don't hold your breath.
Wow, everyone should really be watching that CC/Union game. I had no idea they faced each other until I saw this post...thanks KeithK. Anyone else have a feeling the outcome of this game will have a huge impact on our PWR this spring?
Go UNION![/q]
If Union pulls out a win at CC, it would be a huge upset. So yes it would help our PWR but don't hold your breath.
Re: Polls 10/3/05
Posted by: JDeafv (---.howard01.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 07, 2005 01:23PM
[Q]Will Wrote:
JDeafv Wrote:
There are only 58 D-I college hockey programs.
[/Q]
59, actually, with the addition of RIT this year. Though they are still D-I Independent and will play a few games against D-III opponents, they should still be counted, particularly since they are on our nonconference slate this season.[/q]
Ok, 59, but that doesn't change the point of the post.
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