[OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by Hillel Hoffmann
[OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.usb.temple.edu)
Date: April 22, 2005 12:05PM
This year’s Princeton game feels like it's being played in Bizarro World. We're the hunted; they're the hunters. Even for those of us schooled in fatter times, it feels… unnatural.
Hard to know what to make of the Tigers. Despite their youth, they played some of the best teams in the nation close early in the season (Tambroni was correct when he stated in this morning's Sun that any Ivy team, Cornell included, would likely have a similar record with Princeton's brutal early schedule). Yet they also have been choking dogs against some mediocre teams. They're even making the occasional mental mistake. Go figure.
The bad news is they seem to be gaining some confidence, scoring double-digit goals against two consecutive opponents for the first time since April 2004. And they're playing for their lives. Princeton cannot get into the tournament without the Ivy AQ.
The conventional preseason wisdom about Princeton -- that their offense would suffer without Ryan Boyle around to give their best shooters the rock -- turned out to be true. The productivity of marksmen like Doneger (one of Princeton's few seniors) has declined. Most of their offense flows through sophomore attackman Scott Sowanick, who has been taking shifts as a midfielder as Tierney experiments with ways to create better shots. Princeton's best player is freshman defenseman Dan Cocoziello from New Jersey HS lax powerhouse Delbarton; look for him wearing #1 -- he's a joy to watch. Cocoziello was the most coveted recruit in the nation, and he might already be one of the best defenseman in the Ivy League. Tierney has started three different goalies this season. Last year's primary starter, Dave Law, was thrown to the wolves in the first few games. Then senior Matt Larkin had a shot. Then they tried freshman Alex Hewit, Coco's bud from Delbarton, for a spell. Now they seem to be back with Law, who has given up only four goals in the last two games.
I don't buy the argument that Cornell should run, run, run against the Tigers. Part of the reason that Cornell got away with playing an aggressive transition game (with the associated high turnover rate) in the middle of the season is due to the fact that their opponents, such as Harvard and Syracuse, were undisciplined turnover machines themselves. They would cough up the ball or get nailed for a violation on the clear within seconds of getting the ball from Cornell. Although this Princeton team doesn’t protect the ball as well as they usually do, you can't count on them to do stupid stuff. Cornell needs to be highly selective with their fast-break opportunities. Besides, the weather may conspire against the kinds of 30-yard feeds from long sticks that created a bunch of goals in the Carrier Dome.
You have to like Cornell's chances, given their experience. Cornell's middies, who know how to play in the rain, are likely to make Princeton's young midfielders feel like they have their clothes on sideways.
Can't wait. Bring it on.
Hard to know what to make of the Tigers. Despite their youth, they played some of the best teams in the nation close early in the season (Tambroni was correct when he stated in this morning's Sun that any Ivy team, Cornell included, would likely have a similar record with Princeton's brutal early schedule). Yet they also have been choking dogs against some mediocre teams. They're even making the occasional mental mistake. Go figure.
The bad news is they seem to be gaining some confidence, scoring double-digit goals against two consecutive opponents for the first time since April 2004. And they're playing for their lives. Princeton cannot get into the tournament without the Ivy AQ.
The conventional preseason wisdom about Princeton -- that their offense would suffer without Ryan Boyle around to give their best shooters the rock -- turned out to be true. The productivity of marksmen like Doneger (one of Princeton's few seniors) has declined. Most of their offense flows through sophomore attackman Scott Sowanick, who has been taking shifts as a midfielder as Tierney experiments with ways to create better shots. Princeton's best player is freshman defenseman Dan Cocoziello from New Jersey HS lax powerhouse Delbarton; look for him wearing #1 -- he's a joy to watch. Cocoziello was the most coveted recruit in the nation, and he might already be one of the best defenseman in the Ivy League. Tierney has started three different goalies this season. Last year's primary starter, Dave Law, was thrown to the wolves in the first few games. Then senior Matt Larkin had a shot. Then they tried freshman Alex Hewit, Coco's bud from Delbarton, for a spell. Now they seem to be back with Law, who has given up only four goals in the last two games.
I don't buy the argument that Cornell should run, run, run against the Tigers. Part of the reason that Cornell got away with playing an aggressive transition game (with the associated high turnover rate) in the middle of the season is due to the fact that their opponents, such as Harvard and Syracuse, were undisciplined turnover machines themselves. They would cough up the ball or get nailed for a violation on the clear within seconds of getting the ball from Cornell. Although this Princeton team doesn’t protect the ball as well as they usually do, you can't count on them to do stupid stuff. Cornell needs to be highly selective with their fast-break opportunities. Besides, the weather may conspire against the kinds of 30-yard feeds from long sticks that created a bunch of goals in the Carrier Dome.
You have to like Cornell's chances, given their experience. Cornell's middies, who know how to play in the rain, are likely to make Princeton's young midfielders feel like they have their clothes on sideways.
Can't wait. Bring it on.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2005 12:07PM by Hillel Hoffmann.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: KenP (---.abrfc.noaa.gov)
Date: April 22, 2005 12:21PM
Thanks for the preview! Looking forward to "watching" the game on this thread...
LGR!
LGR!
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Jordan 04 (12.42.45.---)
Date: April 22, 2005 12:23PM
Is it today? Or tomorrow?
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.chem.cornell.edu)
Date: April 22, 2005 12:32PM
[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:
Is it today? Or tomorrow?[/q]
tomorrow
Is it today? Or tomorrow?[/q]
tomorrow
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: peterg (---.bgdmlaw.com)
Date: April 22, 2005 01:57PM
Great pregame post, but I do have to say that when I saw PU in their TV game against Syracuse, they were very sloppy with the ball (both teams were). I'm sure that has improved as they have played more (it was their fourth game), but they sure did not look good (note that they only lost to SU by 2 goals).
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 22, 2005 09:16PM
Link just posted on the Cornell athletics site for streaming video broadcast of the Princeton game. 
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 09:18AM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote: Link just posted on the Cornell athletics site for streaming video broadcast of the Princeton game. [/q]
The video broadcast link was just posted on the laxpower forum. Groan. Look out -- heavy usage ahead.
The video broadcast link was just posted on the laxpower forum. Groan. Look out -- heavy usage ahead.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 10:31AM
LGR!
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 11:07AM
[Q]Hillel Hoffmann Wrote:
Al DeFlorio Wrote: Link just posted on the Cornell athletics site for streaming video broadcast of the Princeton game. [/Q]
The video broadcast link was just posted on the laxpower forum. Groan. Look out -- heavy usage ahead.[/q]
remember, it's still limited to 50 users at a time so be on early if you want to watch.
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.nrp4.mon.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 12:15PM
It's 12:10pm, and I can't log on, so I guess it's already full. Oh well. I'm just trying to figure out how UNC @ 'Gate was picked for today's CSTV lax game over the Cornell/Princeton game, especially given the Cornell @ Princeton game last year. If they were willing and able to get cameras and crew to Hamilton, Ithaca would have been just as easy.
BTW, at 12:30pm, Lacrosse Weekly will be on CSTV. I haven't caught any episodes this season, but it is possible that the Syracuse/Cornell game didn't make the show last week and could appear today. (That's pure speculation on my part, though.)
BTW, at 12:30pm, Lacrosse Weekly will be on CSTV. I haven't caught any episodes this season, but it is possible that the Syracuse/Cornell game didn't make the show last week and could appear today. (That's pure speculation on my part, though.)
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 12:47PM
The game's at 1 today, so it's not available yet... should be in a few minutes
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 12:50PM
Brown leading Dartmouth 6-4 late first half
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.nrp4.mon.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 12:50PM
Lacrosse Weekly did indeed show the Syracuse/Cornell highlights. It'll air again tonight at midnight.
EDIT: and Cornell/Dartmouth highlights.
EDIT: and Cornell/Dartmouth highlights.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 12:59PM by JasonN95.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:00PM
Video is just giving me "an error occurred" - anyone else?
For now I pulled up the audio. I'm at my parents and I'm not convinced the bandwidth here will support the video anyway, but I'd like to try. If the video isn't working for anyone, I'll give updates until things are straightened out.
For now I pulled up the audio. I'm at my parents and I'm not convinced the bandwidth here will support the video anyway, but I'd like to try. If the video isn't working for anyone, I'll give updates until things are straightened out.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:05PM
REDD!! 1-0 Cornell early, with possession again
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:05PM
Redd 1-0
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:07PM
Greenhalgh!! 2-0 Red, still early of course, about 3 minutes in
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:09PM
NEE! 3-0! Although I have no doubt this game will be closer than it sounds so far. I'm not sure if the Tigers have had a possession yet... TO Princeton
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:10PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
NEE! 3-0! Although I have no doubt this game will be closer than it sounds so far. I'm not sure if the Tigers have had a possession yet... TO Princeton[/q]
Princeton announcer says they haven't had the ball--except maybe the pass to Greenhalgh may have hit a Tiger helmet.
NEE! 3-0! Although I have no doubt this game will be closer than it sounds so far. I'm not sure if the Tigers have had a possession yet... TO Princeton[/q]
Princeton announcer says they haven't had the ball--except maybe the pass to Greenhalgh may have hit a Tiger helmet.
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:12PM
Greenhalgh to Boulukos! 4-0 Red
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:15PM
Princeton scores on their second shot after the first hit the post, Princeton ball again
4-1 Cornell
4-1 Cornell
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:17PM
But Cornell answers back, Justin Redd! 5-1 Cornell
btw, is this useful for anyone, or is everyone listening somewhere on their own?
btw, is this useful for anyone, or is everyone listening somewhere on their own?
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:19PM
Princeton announcer saying someone on Princeton has to start playing defense. New sieve for Princeton.
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:21PM
And new goal by Greenhalgh ... 6-1 Cornell
agree, don't think Princeton has stopped a shot yet, maybe one. and Cornell seems to be walkingin at will
I'll stop doing updates so often cause it kinda seems like i'm only entertaining myself for now
... 6-1 Cornell
agree, don't think Princeton has stopped a shot yet, maybe one. and Cornell seems to be walkingin at will
I'll stop doing updates so often cause it kinda seems like i'm only entertaining myself for now
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:22PM
Greenhalgh 6-1; Princeton webcast must be delayed nearly a minute--goal was posted on LaxPower long before I heard it
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.krose.org)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:22PM
Is there free audio somewhere? I'm still waiting for Godot...er, the video feed.
EDIT: Ah, there is evidently Princeton audio somewhere. Now looking.
EDIT^2: See [goprincetontigers.collegesports.com]
Kyle
EDIT: Ah, there is evidently Princeton audio somewhere. Now looking.
EDIT^2: See [goprincetontigers.collegesports.com]
Kyle
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 01:26PM by krose.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:25PM
Godot has a greater likelihood. Princeton athletics site has a link under "multimedia."
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:27PM
Duke crushing Army 12-6
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:34PM
Dartmouth and Brown tied at 8 with 12 to go
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:39PM
Nee 7-1
Greenhalgh 8-1
Dartmouth-Brown tied at 9 under 5 to go
Greenhalgh 8-1
Dartmouth-Brown tied at 9 under 5 to go
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 01:45PM by Al DeFlorio.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:43PM
8-1 Cornell, Greenhalgh
and the Cornell announcers are about an hour and a half behind the Dartmouth/Brown game, I see 9-8 Brown with 6 minutes left
and the Cornell announcers are about an hour and a half behind the Dartmouth/Brown game, I see 9-8 Brown with 6 minutes left
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:46PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
8-1 Cornell, Greenhalgh
and the Cornell announcers are about an hour and a half behind the Dartmouth/Brown game, I see 9-8 Brown with 6 minutes left[/q]
Now 9-9
8-1 Cornell, Greenhalgh
and the Cornell announcers are about an hour and a half behind the Dartmouth/Brown game, I see 9-8 Brown with 6 minutes left[/q]
Now 9-9
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.krose.org)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:47PM
Post deleted due to author's illiteracy.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 01:48PM by krose.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:50PM
10-9 Dartmouth with 3:46 left
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.krose.org)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:54PM
I'd say, "This is sad"... but I've seen teams come back from much bigger deficits. So, I'll just say, "Let's go Red!"
Kyle
Kyle
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:54PM
Should I be pissed that I'm unable to watch this game??? 
10-2 half
Dartmouth 11-9 last minute of game; now final!
Duke 19-8 over Army late 4th; yikes!
10-2 half
Dartmouth 11-9 last minute of game; now final!
Duke 19-8 over Army late 4th; yikes!
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 02:03PM by Al DeFlorio.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: KP '06 (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:57PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
Should I be pissed that I'm unable to watch this game???
10-2 half
Dartmouth 11-9 last minute of game[/q]
Anybody here one of the lucky 50 who get to watch?
Should I be pissed that I'm unable to watch this game???
10-2 half
Dartmouth 11-9 last minute of game[/q]
Anybody here one of the lucky 50 who get to watch?
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:00PM
I don't think it has anything to do with 50. We're all watched before, or at least 95% of us, with no problem. I suppose it's possible, but I'd put 10:1 odds on the fact the service just broke today.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.krose.org)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:04PM
Man, I ran out to Quiznos and back to get here in time for the 1pm video... and nothing. I swear, the tech-heads in the Athletic Dept are seriously incompetent. It's disgraceful. Aren't there any fans in the Engineering school who can help pull their heads out of their asses?
Kyle
Kyle
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:15PM
so i don't think coach tierney got the memo that Kevin Nee (6,0) can shoot 
12-2 Red 9:46 to go in the 3rd
12-2 Red 9:46 to go in the 3rd
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:16PM
[Q]krose Wrote:
I swear, the tech-heads in the Athletic Dept are seriously incompetent. It's disgraceful. Aren't there any fans in the Engineering school who can help pull their heads out of their asses?
Kyle[/q]
The depth that their heads are in their asses, you're probably better off asking the Med school. Or Vet for that matter (there's a "horse's ass" pun in there somewhere).
I swear, the tech-heads in the Athletic Dept are seriously incompetent. It's disgraceful. Aren't there any fans in the Engineering school who can help pull their heads out of their asses?
Kyle[/q]
The depth that their heads are in their asses, you're probably better off asking the Med school. Or Vet for that matter (there's a "horse's ass" pun in there somewhere).
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:18PM
or maybe just some really large exam gloves 
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: bP (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:24PM
14-2.
Last Cornell score with goalie out of position leaving an empty net.
<EDIT>
Now 15-2 with 2:03 left in 3rd qtr
Last Cornell score with goalie out of position leaving an empty net.
<EDIT>
Now 15-2 with 2:03 left in 3rd qtr
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 02:25PM by bP.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:25PM
14-2 Cornell... and the audio dies...
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:27PM
Princeton's free audio working just fine. ![B-]](http://elf.elynah.com/smileys/11.gif "B-]")
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:29PM
in other games:
#2 Duke 19
#7 Army 9 F
#11 Dartmouth 11
#18 Brown 9 F
#10 Maryland 8
#15Fairfield 6 late 3rd
#1 JHU 6
#5 Navy 4 mid 3rd
#9 UMass 9
#3 G'town 9 late 3rd
#2 Duke 19
#7 Army 9 F
#11 Dartmouth 11
#18 Brown 9 F
#10 Maryland 8
#15Fairfield 6 late 3rd
#1 JHU 6
#5 Navy 4 mid 3rd
#9 UMass 9
#3 G'town 9 late 3rd
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 02:33PM by ben03.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: bP (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:35PM
Cornell up 16-3 with 13:37 left in the 4th qtr.
Nee scores either his 6th or 7th of the game.
Nee scores either his 6th or 7th of the game.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:36PM
Pep band tired.....18+ playings of GMRT Davey!
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:37PM
that was his 7th of the day
here's the live stats link: [cornellbigred.collegesports.com]
here's the live stats link: [cornellbigred.collegesports.com]
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:37PM
Score now? (For those of us whose audio died. 
)
)
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:37PM
Navy leading Hopkins 7-6 late 3rd
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:38PM
[Q]jmh30 Wrote:
Score now? (For those of us whose audio died. )[/q]
17-3
Princeton has 16 shots; Nee has 13.
Score now? (For those of us whose audio died. )[/q]
17-3
Princeton has 16 shots; Nee has 13.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 02:39PM by Al DeFlorio.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:40PM
i would pay soooo much money to stand next to bill tierney and hear what he's bitching now about as his team is getting walked all over Schoellkopf 
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:42PM
make that 17-4 Trombino (2,0) w/ 10:22 to go
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:43PM
I'm now getting video.
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:45PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
I'm now getting video.[/q]
ditto
I'm now getting video.[/q]
ditto
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:47PM
that was a v. weak ill. body check call ... sympathy calls here we come
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:50PM
UMass nips Georgetown by 1
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:55PM
Hop and Navy tied at 7 with 5:00 to go
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 02:59PM
it's a final 17-4 Big Red! time for the tigers to make some tee times b/c their season just ended
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 03:03PM
Am I correct in saying that we now have the AQ solidified? Brown got its second loss, and we beat dartmouth princeton and yale(not sure which of those still only have 1 loss).
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 03:05PM
We have the AQ. Dartmouth has 1 loss. Everybody else has at least 2.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 03:05PM
[Q]Jacob '06 Wrote:
Am I correct in saying that we now have the AQ solidified? Brown got its second loss, and we beat dartmouth princeton and yale(not sure which of those still only have 1 loss).[/q]
Yes, we have the AQ. If Brown beats us and Dartmouth wins out, we tie Dartmouth for the title but get the AQ.
Navy leads Hopkins by one in the last minute at Homewood. Timeout Hopkins.
Hop ties it with :21 to go.
Hop wins it in OT. Questionable call gave 'em the ball after a Navy shot.
Am I correct in saying that we now have the AQ solidified? Brown got its second loss, and we beat dartmouth princeton and yale(not sure which of those still only have 1 loss).[/q]
Yes, we have the AQ. If Brown beats us and Dartmouth wins out, we tie Dartmouth for the title but get the AQ.
Navy leads Hopkins by one in the last minute at Homewood. Timeout Hopkins.
Hop ties it with :21 to go.
Hop wins it in OT. Questionable call gave 'em the ball after a Navy shot.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2005 03:18PM by Al DeFlorio.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 03:18PM
Woohoo, I can't get bashed for my woofing after the dartmouth game
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 03:19PM
#1 Hopkins 9
#5 Navy 8 F
#5 Navy 8 F
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 03:27PM
[Q]ben03 Wrote:
it's a final 17-4 Big Red! time for the tigers to make some tee times b/c their season just ended[/q]First a sweep in hoops and now a whipping in Lax. Did Princeton change their admission index?
it's a final 17-4 Big Red! time for the tigers to make some tee times b/c their season just ended[/q]First a sweep in hoops and now a whipping in Lax. Did Princeton change their admission index?
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Tom Pasniewski 98 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 04:07PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
ben03 Wrote:
it's a final 17-4 Big Red! time for the tigers to make some tee times b/c their season just ended[/Q]
First a sweep in hoops and now a whipping in Lax. Did Princeton change their admission index?[/q]
By my count, the win brings Cornell to 9-1-1 against Princeton this academic year in all men's sports with head-to-head contests. Cornell won both matchups over the Tigers in hoops and hockey and their sole matchup this year in football, sprint football, squash, wrestling and lacrosse. Cornell tied Princeton in soccer and suffered a loss in swimming. Cornell and Princeton still have three more head-to-heads (tomorrow in tennis and a DH next weekend in baseball) but I'd say we owned Princeton this year.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 04:28PM
wow! what a result. crushing princeton. pretty sweet. LGR! time to watch some playoff lacrosse at hsbc arena
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: peterg (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 10:11PM
[Q]jy3 Wrote:
wow! what a result. crushing princeton. pretty sweet. LGR! time to watch some playoff lacrosse at hsbc arena[/q]
The rain stopped early, the sun actually came out at the end of the game, there was a big (by recent standards) crowd on hand, the pep band was in fine form, Cornell outplayed PU in every way, and even PU coach Bill Tierney gave up whining at the refs (he started off pre-game, complaining about the pep band playing the "Mickey Mouse Club" theme as his team came on to the field and was barking, as usual, throughout the first half). What a day!
If you weren't there or didn't see the webcast, Cornell was completely dominating. You name the positive stat, and Cornell won it. It was a mis-match.
I have no idea if the team knew that today is St. George's Day (thanks to Coach Moran for pointing that out), but either way, it was especially nice that today they could play as nearly perfect a game as a Cornell lacrosse team has in a long, long time.
wow! what a result. crushing princeton. pretty sweet. LGR! time to watch some playoff lacrosse at hsbc arena[/q]
The rain stopped early, the sun actually came out at the end of the game, there was a big (by recent standards) crowd on hand, the pep band was in fine form, Cornell outplayed PU in every way, and even PU coach Bill Tierney gave up whining at the refs (he started off pre-game, complaining about the pep band playing the "Mickey Mouse Club" theme as his team came on to the field and was barking, as usual, throughout the first half). What a day!
If you weren't there or didn't see the webcast, Cornell was completely dominating. You name the positive stat, and Cornell won it. It was a mis-match.
I have no idea if the team knew that today is St. George's Day (thanks to Coach Moran for pointing that out), but either way, it was especially nice that today they could play as nearly perfect a game as a Cornell lacrosse team has in a long, long time.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Tub(a) (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 10:20PM
[Q]peterg Wrote:
PU coach Bill Tierney gave up whining at the refs (he started off pre-game, complaining about the pep band playing the "Mickey Mouse Club" theme as his team came on to the field and was barking, as usual, throughout the first half).
[/q]
He's definitely not a fan of the Pep Band. Last year, he instructed the Princeton Field Staff to "keep [the band] as far away from us as possible."
PU coach Bill Tierney gave up whining at the refs (he started off pre-game, complaining about the pep band playing the "Mickey Mouse Club" theme as his team came on to the field and was barking, as usual, throughout the first half).
[/q]
He's definitely not a fan of the Pep Band. Last year, he instructed the Princeton Field Staff to "keep [the band] as far away from us as possible."
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 23, 2005 10:33PM
"he" is an asshole and anything that makes him mad is a good thing! keep up the good work guys
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 11:06PM
[q] He's definitely not a fan of the Pep Band. Last year, he instructed the Princeton Field Staff to "keep [the band] as far away from us as possible." [/q]
Way to go!!
Way to go!!
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: KeithK (---.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 01:06AM
Fred, I wasn't following your posts during the game but I greatly appreciate the play by play after the fact. So no need to worry that you're posting to the ether!
Ivy title and NCAA bid! Way to go laxers!
Ivy title and NCAA bid! Way to go laxers!
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
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Post-Standard article
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 07:43AM
Here: [www.syracuse.com]
Trenton Times web site has a headline ("Cornell romps Princeton" but the article is about P's women's lax team's loss to Dartmouth.
Trenton Times web site has a headline ("Cornell romps Princeton"
but the article is about P's women's lax team's loss to Dartmouth.___________________________
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NCAA Preview
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 24, 2005 12:17PM
So with only a few weeks left in the lacrosse season here's what the NCAA's might look like after yesterdays results:
Automatic Qualifiers:*
Cornell (Ivy AQ)
Albany/Stony Brook (America East AQ)
Army/Navy (Patriot AQ)
Denver/Fairfield (Great Western AQ)
Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s (MAAC AQ)
Towson/Delaware (Colonial AQ)
At-large In:
JHU
Duke
UVA
Georgetown
At-large Likely:
Army/Navy
Syracuse
Dartmouth
Maryland
UMass
At-large long-shot fighting for the last spot
Bucknell
Penn State
Denver/Fairfield
Towson/Delaware
Albany/Stony Brook
Seeded something like this:
1. JHU
2. Duke
3. UVA
4. Cornell*
5. Georgetown
6. Navy*
7. Syracuse
8. Army
9. Maryland
10. UMass
11. Dartmouth
12. Towson/Delaware*
13. Albany/Stony Brook*
14. Denver/Fairfield*
15. Bucknell/Penn State et al
16.Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s*
Hillel, Al, Fred please feel free to correct any errors you see as my brain isn't up to speed ... b/c it's sunday morning
Automatic Qualifiers:*
Cornell (Ivy AQ)
Albany/Stony Brook (America East AQ)
Army/Navy (Patriot AQ)
Denver/Fairfield (Great Western AQ)
Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s (MAAC AQ)
Towson/Delaware (Colonial AQ)
At-large In:
JHU
Duke
UVA
Georgetown
At-large Likely:
Army/Navy
Syracuse
Dartmouth
Maryland
UMass
At-large long-shot fighting for the last spot
Bucknell
Penn State
Denver/Fairfield
Towson/Delaware
Albany/Stony Brook
Seeded something like this:
1. JHU
2. Duke
3. UVA
4. Cornell*
5. Georgetown
6. Navy*
7. Syracuse
8. Army
9. Maryland
10. UMass
11. Dartmouth
12. Towson/Delaware*
13. Albany/Stony Brook*
14. Denver/Fairfield*
15. Bucknell/Penn State et al
16.Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s*
Hillel, Al, Fred please feel free to correct any errors you see as my brain isn't up to speed ... b/c it's sunday morning
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2005 12:18PM by ben03.
Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: Tub(a) (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: April 24, 2005 01:32PM
[Q]ben03 Wrote:
So with only a few weeks left in the lacrosse season here's what the NCAA's might look like after yesterdays results:
Automatic Qualifiers:*
Cornell (Ivy AQ)
Albany/Stony Brook (America East AQ)
Army/Navy (Patriot AQ)
Denver/Fairfield (Great Western AQ)
Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s (MAAC AQ)
Towson/Delaware (Colonial AQ)
At-large In:
JHU
Duke
UVA
Georgetown
At-large Likely:
Army/Navy
Syracuse
Dartmouth
Maryland
UMass
At-large long-shot fighting for the last spot
Bucknell
Penn State
Denver/Fairfield
Towson/Delaware
Albany/Stony Brook
Seeded something like this:
1. JHU
2. Duke
3. UVA
4. Cornell*
5. Georgetown
6. Navy*
7. Syracuse
8. Army
9. Maryland
10. UMass
11. Dartmouth
12. Towson/Delaware*
13. Albany/Stony Brook*
14. Denver/Fairfield*
15. Bucknell/Penn State et al
16.Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s*
Hillel, Al, Fred please feel free to correct any errors you see as my brain isn't up to speed ... b/c it's sunday morning[/q]
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?
So with only a few weeks left in the lacrosse season here's what the NCAA's might look like after yesterdays results:
Automatic Qualifiers:*
Cornell (Ivy AQ)
Albany/Stony Brook (America East AQ)
Army/Navy (Patriot AQ)
Denver/Fairfield (Great Western AQ)
Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s (MAAC AQ)
Towson/Delaware (Colonial AQ)
At-large In:
JHU
Duke
UVA
Georgetown
At-large Likely:
Army/Navy
Syracuse
Dartmouth
Maryland
UMass
At-large long-shot fighting for the last spot
Bucknell
Penn State
Denver/Fairfield
Towson/Delaware
Albany/Stony Brook
Seeded something like this:
1. JHU
2. Duke
3. UVA
4. Cornell*
5. Georgetown
6. Navy*
7. Syracuse
8. Army
9. Maryland
10. UMass
11. Dartmouth
12. Towson/Delaware*
13. Albany/Stony Brook*
14. Denver/Fairfield*
15. Bucknell/Penn State et al
16.Manhattan/Mount St. Mary’s*
Hillel, Al, Fred please feel free to correct any errors you see as my brain isn't up to speed ... b/c it's sunday morning[/q]
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?
Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 24, 2005 03:13PM
[Q]Tub(a) Wrote:
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round.
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round.
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Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: peterg (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 24, 2005 03:37PM
[Q]ben03 Wrote:
Tub(a) Wrote:
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/Q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round.[/q]
Seems unlikely that the NCAA will send JHU north when they are a quarterfinal host.
Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 04:28PM
[Q]peterg Wrote:
ben03 Wrote:
Tub(a) Wrote:
So in that case one of JHU, Duke, or UVA would be forced to go "north" to Princeton for the quarter-finals, right?[/Q]
the eight first round games are played at the higher seeds home site, may 14th and 15th. the following weekend of May 20-21 doubeheaders will be played at @ JHU and Princeton respectively. i'm not exactly sure on the seeding procedures, assuming the committee sticks to a traditional 1-16 bracket (and have shown no reason they wouldn't) ... yes, either JHU, Duke, UVA would in fact be forced to travel north to Princeton assuming of course they make it through the first round.[/Q]
Seems unlikely that the NCAA will send JHU north when they are a quarterfinal host. [/q]
I'm all but certain Hop would play their QF at Homewood, and I suspect they'll slot Navy there as well. If Navy should get a #4 seed, I think they'd slot both UVA and Duke for Princeton's QFs.
My recollection is that the committee doesn't "seed" 9-16 according to regular-season performance but selects first-round pairings based on some mix of geography and something like "interesting matchups." In particular, they don't seem to have any desire to avoid repeats of regular season games (e.g., Cornell-Hobart in the first round last year). I don't think you'd see an Albany going to Duke or UVA for the first round, or a Towson to UMass or Syracuse.
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 06:18PM
Awesome domination by Cornell. It could have been 25-4 or 25-3 (or if some shots went Princeton's way, 17-7). (It probably couldn't have been 25 since Princeton stopped at 19 againt Butler recently and there was a big deal made of the Tierney Humanitarian rule of scoring no more than 19 goals against the halt and lame. Heh, heh, shoe was on the other foot this game.)
Tambroni ran though a lot of players. In the West Stands, I worried for the health of the Big Red Pep Band having to play Davy so many times, especially in the second half when the sun came out and it started to get warm. That was a lot of trumpet-blowing. By the second half, all of us carrying two layers of Underarmor and rain gear started to perspire heavily. So much for AccuWeather's prediction of 8/10 inch of rain Saturday. All you really needed was a towel to wipe down the damp stadium seats.
Goaltending - skill or luck or both - was outstanding for Cornell. Every phase was great. Okay, Cornell threw away a couple passes and slowed up on a couple of fast breaks when they could maybe have gone straight to the cage. That's about it.
Huge turnout by the players' families and friends as well as students and what looked like some curious about-to-attend-Cornell HS seniors. Great to see Richie Moran there and cheering. Ned put the map on the wall, Richie put Cornell on the map (well, Ned did too), and even when RM was moved on from his position, he's still an incredible Cornell booster.
Not to kick the crutch from under a cripple but Princeton's road uniforms don't look that good. White with a little black and orange is okay, but black that sort of looks Brown, not the same thing.
Wish every game went this well.
Tambroni ran though a lot of players. In the West Stands, I worried for the health of the Big Red Pep Band having to play Davy so many times, especially in the second half when the sun came out and it started to get warm. That was a lot of trumpet-blowing. By the second half, all of us carrying two layers of Underarmor and rain gear started to perspire heavily. So much for AccuWeather's prediction of 8/10 inch of rain Saturday. All you really needed was a towel to wipe down the damp stadium seats.
Goaltending - skill or luck or both - was outstanding for Cornell. Every phase was great. Okay, Cornell threw away a couple passes and slowed up on a couple of fast breaks when they could maybe have gone straight to the cage. That's about it.
Huge turnout by the players' families and friends as well as students and what looked like some curious about-to-attend-Cornell HS seniors. Great to see Richie Moran there and cheering. Ned put the map on the wall, Richie put Cornell on the map (well, Ned did too), and even when RM was moved on from his position, he's still an incredible Cornell booster.
Not to kick the crutch from under a cripple but Princeton's road uniforms don't look that good. White with a little black and orange is okay, but black that sort of looks Brown, not the same thing.
Wish every game went this well.
Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 06:22PM
Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us. <G>
Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: peterg (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 24, 2005 06:32PM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us. <G>[/q]
They could keep us home and we could see SU again.
Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us. <G>[/q]
They could keep us home and we could see SU again.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 06:34PM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Not to kick the crutch from under a cripple but Princeton's road uniforms don't look that good. White with a little black and orange is okay, but black that sort of looks Brown, not the same thing.
[/q]
Watched a bit of the Princeton-Dartmouth women's game on the tube, and the women wear the same ugly unis.
Not to kick the crutch from under a cripple but Princeton's road uniforms don't look that good. White with a little black and orange is okay, but black that sort of looks Brown, not the same thing.
[/q]
Watched a bit of the Princeton-Dartmouth women's game on the tube, and the women wear the same ugly unis.
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Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 06:42PM
[Q]peterg Wrote:
billhoward Wrote:
Just our luck to be seeded at Hopkins and JHU creating an Olympic width field for us. <G>[/Q]
They could keep us home and we could see SU again.[/q]
Army, Dartmouth, and Albany are other possibilities. Or Bucknell if they win the Patriot League.
Barring the unforeseen, Cornell, UMass, and Syracuse are the "north's" best bets for 1-8 seeds. UMass-Syracuse winner (game's at UMass this Saturday) should be a cinch.
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Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 07:47PM
Just once it would be nice to see UMass go all the way (so long as it's not at Cornell's expense). That would really tick off the Johnny Red schools who think they invented and own the sport. He's been gone for a decade, but Dick Garber (now Greg Cannella) did a heck of lot for the sport and should have been rewarded with something more than a bunch of almost-did-it seasons. Come to think of it, the farthest north any NCAA champion has been is the Finger Lakes, at least since the days of the NCAA tournament (1971) and before then it was pretty much a round robin of voters who choose Hopkins or Maryland, Maryland or Hopkins, maybe Navy or NC once in a while to spice things up.
Withdrawal
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 24, 2005 08:27PM
The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...
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Re: Withdrawal
Posted by: Lauren '06 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 24, 2005 08:29PM
[Q]Dpperk29 Wrote:
The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...[/q]
Make fun of baseball fans.
The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...[/q]
Make fun of baseball fans.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Redscore (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2005 08:48PM
I saw this link on Laxpower. I apologize if the link doesn't click through correctly. Please cut and paste if you have to because this is a must read. What an amazing bunch of guys. They make you incredibly proud to be Red fans.
www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=80845
www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=80845
Re: Withdrawal
Posted by: Tub(a) (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: April 24, 2005 09:58PM
[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:
Dpperk29 Wrote:
The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...[/Q]
Make fun of baseball fans.[/q]
We have a winner!
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: cth95 (---.a-315.westelcom.com)
Date: April 25, 2005 12:08AM
All I can say is "Wow". Thank you for posting that insightful and inspirational article. I do not know much about lacrosse and have only followed Cornell because it is my alma mater. Now I will follow and root for them for much deeper reasons.
Re: Withdrawal
Posted by: Jordan 04 (12.42.45.---)
Date: April 25, 2005 10:52AM
[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:
Dpperk29 Wrote:
The lax game today was awsome. I have been mildly interested in Lax for the last few years, but today I realized that it is the next best thing to Hockey. Which then brings the question... what are we going to do when Lax season ends? no hockey, no lax...[/Q]
Make fun of baseball fans.[/q]
You know, those crazy people whose league actually exists right now.
Re: NCAA Preview
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: April 25, 2005 11:30AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
That would really tick off the Johnny Red schools who think they invented and own the sport. [/q]
Presumably you mean Johnnie Reb i.e., Southern.
That would really tick off the Johnny Red schools who think they invented and own the sport. [/q]
Presumably you mean Johnnie Reb i.e., Southern.
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.usb.temple.edu)
Date: April 25, 2005 11:35AM
Is this really happening?
I remember a game against Princeton back in 1991. The Cornell lacrosse program was clearly beginning to decline, but they entered the game 8-3. The Tigers had been knocking on the door for a few years, finishing in the top half of the Ivy League in consecutive seasons for the first time in a bazillion years. It was Bill Tierney's fifth year -- he was playing with his own guys.
Princeton crushed Cornell 12-2 at Schoellkopf in a game that was much more of a blowout than suggested by the score. I still consider it the most horrifying home lacrosse game I've ever seen. The Tigers dominated time of possession. They had more juice, more skills, more discipline, more depth and a lot more desire. And all of Princeton's players were so young: Morrow, Bacigalupo, Moe. No fair! You had this feeling that the stars were shifting to form new constellations. Put on your quetzal feathers, wake up the kids and bring them to the temple steps for some ritual bloodletting: There's a new king up there on the pyramid.
Fast forward to this Saturday. There's Cornell dominating time of possession. Cornell with more juice, more skills, more discipline, more depth and a lot more desire. And there's Cornell with the best recruiting class they've had in a long, long time waiting in the wings and there's--
[Sound of needle pulled across vinyl tracks]
Oops. I forgot. Princeton's last two recruiting classes were even better. And half our best players are seniors.
OK, whatever. But is this season not like a dream? Or at least like 1987 or something.
[Q]peterg Wrote: when I saw PU in their TV game against Syracuse, they were very sloppy with the ball (both teams were). [/q]
Good call, Peter. You were so right. Was that really Princeton?
This Cornell team is so good and so deserving. I hope people will turn out in the playoffs to make up for the awful attendance during the regular season. (Saturday's game was the first home game with a crowd of more than 500 people.)
Ben's list of playoff hopefuls was pretty solid, although it's premature to predict seeding. I guess it's worth thinking about teams that Cornell might meet. One thing has changed: Cornell should no longer fear teams with great FO men. Cornell's riding is so scary good that it really doesn't matter much. Even if Cornell gets a favorable bracket, there are two teams out there in the "north" subset that scare the bijinkies outta me: Massachusetts and Albany.
I remember a game against Princeton back in 1991. The Cornell lacrosse program was clearly beginning to decline, but they entered the game 8-3. The Tigers had been knocking on the door for a few years, finishing in the top half of the Ivy League in consecutive seasons for the first time in a bazillion years. It was Bill Tierney's fifth year -- he was playing with his own guys.
Princeton crushed Cornell 12-2 at Schoellkopf in a game that was much more of a blowout than suggested by the score. I still consider it the most horrifying home lacrosse game I've ever seen. The Tigers dominated time of possession. They had more juice, more skills, more discipline, more depth and a lot more desire. And all of Princeton's players were so young: Morrow, Bacigalupo, Moe. No fair! You had this feeling that the stars were shifting to form new constellations. Put on your quetzal feathers, wake up the kids and bring them to the temple steps for some ritual bloodletting: There's a new king up there on the pyramid.
Fast forward to this Saturday. There's Cornell dominating time of possession. Cornell with more juice, more skills, more discipline, more depth and a lot more desire. And there's Cornell with the best recruiting class they've had in a long, long time waiting in the wings and there's--
[Sound of needle pulled across vinyl tracks]
Oops. I forgot. Princeton's last two recruiting classes were even better. And half our best players are seniors.
OK, whatever. But is this season not like a dream? Or at least like 1987 or something.
[Q]peterg Wrote: when I saw PU in their TV game against Syracuse, they were very sloppy with the ball (both teams were). [/q]
Good call, Peter. You were so right. Was that really Princeton?
This Cornell team is so good and so deserving. I hope people will turn out in the playoffs to make up for the awful attendance during the regular season. (Saturday's game was the first home game with a crowd of more than 500 people.)
Ben's list of playoff hopefuls was pretty solid, although it's premature to predict seeding. I guess it's worth thinking about teams that Cornell might meet. One thing has changed: Cornell should no longer fear teams with great FO men. Cornell's riding is so scary good that it really doesn't matter much. Even if Cornell gets a favorable bracket, there are two teams out there in the "north" subset that scare the bijinkies outta me: Massachusetts and Albany.
Re: Withdrawal
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: April 25, 2005 12:54PM
Actually what we do around here is count the days till NFL training camp opens.
Baseball? What's that?
Baseball? What's that?
Re: [OT LAX] Media Poll 4.25.2005
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: April 25, 2005 01:17PM
Inside Lacrosse Media Poll April 25, 2005 1. Johns Hopkins (10-0) 400 points (16 first-place votes) 2. Duke (13-1) 384 3. Virginia (9-2) 359 4. Navy (9-3) 347 5. Cornell (8-2) 337 6. Georgetown (8-3) 311 7. Syracuse (7-4) 306 8. Massachusetts (9-2) 300 9. Maryland (6-5) 259 10. Army (10-3) 257 11. Dartmouth (7-3) 233 12. Towson (9-3) 225 13. Bucknell (8-4) 204 14. Denver (8-4) 179 15. Albany (8-4) 170 16. Notre Dame (6-4) 132 17. Fairfield (9-3) 130 18. Stony Brook (9-3) 109 19. Delaware (9-4) 90 20. Brown (5-4) 89 Others receiving votes: Penn State 68, Yale 68, Hofstra 66, North Carolina 28, Hobart, 27, Villanova 12, Harvard 5, UMBC 3, Bellarmine 1, Princeton 1. Moving in: Stony Brook, Delaware Dropping out: Hofstra (#18), Yale (#14)
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Re: [OT LAX] LaxPower forum poll
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 25, 2005 02:00PM
Poll drawn from a number of "regulars" on the LaxPower forum--with individual comments on the ranked teams. These guys all follow the game closely, and I find their thoughts interesting (although one thinks Saturday's game was played at Princeton).
[www.laxpower.com]
[www.laxpower.com]
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Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: April 25, 2005 02:29PM
Just a random question from someone who doesn't know the lax world. Is there a particular reason why colege lacrosse still has independants (4, including Johns Hopkins and Syracuse) while everyone seems to be affiliated in other sports. In hockey all of the Indys joined conferences in the 90s (or was it the 80s?). I suppose the "star power" of Johns Hopkins and Syracuse might help them stay independant, but it's still interesting to me.
(I guess this was more of a comment/observation than a question...)
(I guess this was more of a comment/observation than a question...)
Re: [OT LAX] Cornell lacrosse vs. Princeton
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 25, 2005 02:47PM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:
Just a random question from someone who doesn't know the lax world. Is there a particular reason why colege lacrosse still has independants (4, including Johns Hopkins and Syracuse) while everyone seems to be affiliated in other sports.[/q]
Flexibility in scheduling, perhaps. Hopkins and Syracuse both play an aggressive schedule of top teams, and this would be harder to do if they were constrained by a league's scheduling requirements (see our many discussions about college hockey scheduling constraints).
Hopkins does play all four ACC lacrosse teams, so I suppose that would be a logical fit, but, remember, they are a Division III school in all other sports. And, the ACC has a post-season tournament which could mean two more games against the same schools faced in the regular season.
Just a random question from someone who doesn't know the lax world. Is there a particular reason why colege lacrosse still has independants (4, including Johns Hopkins and Syracuse) while everyone seems to be affiliated in other sports.[/q]
Flexibility in scheduling, perhaps. Hopkins and Syracuse both play an aggressive schedule of top teams, and this would be harder to do if they were constrained by a league's scheduling requirements (see our many discussions about college hockey scheduling constraints).
Hopkins does play all four ACC lacrosse teams, so I suppose that would be a logical fit, but, remember, they are a Division III school in all other sports. And, the ACC has a post-season tournament which could mean two more games against the same schools faced in the regular season.
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