Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by cbuckser
Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: cbuckser (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 02:23AM
David McKee won by a hair.
David McKee .9467956 Dov Grumet-Morris .9466667
Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: ugarte (---.ny325.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 03:25AM
[Q]cbuckser Wrote:
David McKee won by a hair.
David McKee .9467956
Dov Grumet-Morris .9466667[/q]One more save would have been nice. *Sigh*
Still, he had a great year and I'm really happy that he finished ahead of Hyphen.
David McKee won by a hair.
David McKee .9467956
Dov Grumet-Morris .9466667[/q]One more save would have been nice. *Sigh*
Still, he had a great year and I'm really happy that he finished ahead of Hyphen.
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Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 06:52AM
So McKee wins both GAA and save perecentage (if your numbers are accurate, then it's going to be a tie as rounded and reported, and it's a pretty weak barroom argument to see Mckee did win when you get to the fourth decimal places), Moulson gets his 100 points (that empty netter against Harvard he missed, I thought that was gonna cost him), Schafer stuck with 199 wins not 200, so it's mostly good. But this is all like the French handing out lots of medals to its soldiers - you hand out lots of medals to draw attention away from all the wars you haven't won.
Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 28, 2005 07:48AM
Bill, don't be so negative. We have in fact won some wars--enough to raise three banners this year. We just haven't won the big one yet, not in a long time anyway. But we will, eventually.
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Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 08:12AM
USCHO has McKee on top with hyphen #2.
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Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 28, 2005 11:40AM
Exactly Will. The loss yesterday hurts a lot right now. But give me a week of perspective and it will be easy to see this year as extremely successful. First in the ECACs, won the ECAC and Ivy titles. Other than the 67-70 run this is only the second Cornell team to ever win 27 games. Win% of .814 is 8th best in program history (66-71 and 03 are better. A damn good year.
(OK, maybe 2+ weeks for perspective.)
(OK, maybe 2+ weeks for perspective.)
Re: Save Percentage Leaders and other historic numbers
Posted by: cbuckser (134.186.177.---)
Date: March 28, 2005 12:51PM
More numbers: David McKee's save percentage this season is a Cornell record and the fourth best in NCAA history.
McKee's goals against average is the third-best in NCAA history.
Overall, Cornell allowed 1.29 goals per game, tied for the third best in NCAA history and the lowest goals-per-game average posted in Division I hockey since 1929.
McKee's goals against average is the third-best in NCAA history.
Overall, Cornell allowed 1.29 goals per game, tied for the third best in NCAA history and the lowest goals-per-game average posted in Division I hockey since 1929.
Re: Save Percentage Leaders and other historic numbers
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 28, 2005 01:21PM
[q]Overall, Cornell allowed 1.29 goals per game, tied for the third best in NCAA history and the lowest goals-per-game average posted in Division I hockey since 1929.[/q]Translation: the best in modern times. (Lots of dates you could use as a boundary for the start of "modern times" in college hockey, but I think all of them would be after 1929.)
Re: Save Percentage Leaders and other historic numbers
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.loyno.edu)
Date: March 28, 2005 03:15PM
[Q]cbuckser Wrote:
McKee's goals against average is the third-best in NCAA history.[/q]
Meaning that the record that stood for decades until Lenny broke it has now been bettered each of the last three years?
McKee's goals against average is the third-best in NCAA history.[/q]
Meaning that the record that stood for decades until Lenny broke it has now been bettered each of the last three years?
Re: Save Percentage Leaders and other historic numbers
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 03:40PM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
cbuckser Wrote:
McKee's goals against average is the third-best in NCAA history.[/Q]
Meaning that the record that stood for decades until Lenny broke it has now been bettered each of the last three years?[/q]
I'm pretty sure Howard is the only one to best Lenny's record. So Howard in 1st, then Lenny, then McKee. 2 outta the top 3 ain't bad
Re: Save Percentage Leaders and other historic numbers
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 03:52PM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
cbuckser Wrote:
McKee's goals against average is the third-best in NCAA history.[/Q]
Meaning that the record that stood for decades until Lenny broke it has now been bettered each of the last three years?[/q]
Sort of shows you how hockey is moving toward soccer in terms of scoring--or lack thereof. Add to these GAA numbers all the stats announcers quote about how a team is "20-0-2 when they score the first goal."
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Re: Save Percentage Leaders and other historic numbers
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 04:00PM
A team going 20-0-2 when scoring first is a partially self-proving statement. If in the games you score first you win half by one goal and half by two or more, then the reason you won half the games is because you were up by one goal at the instant you scored the first goal - from that point onward both sides just traded goals, which would be a likely outcome of many, many games. True, you don't know if the cushion it gave your team made you sit back more than if you hadn't scored.
There really ought to be a separate, linked stat: Games won by *more than* one goal when scoring first vs games won by exactly one goal vs. games not won.
There really ought to be a separate, linked stat: Games won by *more than* one goal when scoring first vs games won by exactly one goal vs. games not won.
Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 04:07PM
bill, I agree. If you win 5-0, then "scoring the first goal" didn't really matter all that much. The stat would be much more interesting if it could narrowed down to competitive games. Us scoring the first goal and winning against the dregs of the league doesn't necessarily show the value of scoring the first goal.
Re: Save Percentage Leaders
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 04:32PM
Well, there are real statistics and then there are BS statistics that have to be simple so a) the announcers can announce them and b) the audience thinks they've heard something.
I wish there was an alternate feed with a sabemetrician as second color man and when the announcer says Ohio State is 289-1-11 when scoring the first goal, the color geek explains what BS that is. Actually, that's not BS, since scoring the first goal guarantees the win, what, 90% of the time. But a lot of the other stats are.
In the final four (basketball) this weekend, every time an 88% free throw shooter steps to the line, the color geek could note, Despite his shooting 88%, the odds are (making this up) still 10% that he's going to miss these two and the next two, and he's done that fifteen times so far this season. To which the play-by-play guy can note, "Regardless, Tyrese is still some kind of a basketball player," and with that the color geek cannot argue a whit. Unfortunately, you cannot say on-air, "Well, stuff happens."
I wish there was an alternate feed with a sabemetrician as second color man and when the announcer says Ohio State is 289-1-11 when scoring the first goal, the color geek explains what BS that is. Actually, that's not BS, since scoring the first goal guarantees the win, what, 90% of the time. But a lot of the other stats are.
In the final four (basketball) this weekend, every time an 88% free throw shooter steps to the line, the color geek could note, Despite his shooting 88%, the odds are (making this up) still 10% that he's going to miss these two and the next two, and he's done that fifteen times so far this season. To which the play-by-play guy can note, "Regardless, Tyrese is still some kind of a basketball player," and with that the color geek cannot argue a whit. Unfortunately, you cannot say on-air, "Well, stuff happens."
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