Next year's schedule

Does anyone know our schedule for next year?

Four of the nonconference games have been settled for some time. We play two home games against BU. I heard those games will be scheduled for Thanksgiving weekend, but I don't know how accurate that information is. We'll play in the Everblades College Classic after Christmas again. Maine, Ohio State, and UMass-Amherst will join us in Estero.

I don't know about the other three nonconference games.

In Florida next season, I think it's BC instead of Amherst as the new blood though I've not seen anything on paper yet. I'll ask about it tonight on the coaches show. I believe the tentative schedule also includes a home date with Mercyhurst as well.

I heard in December that UMass, Notre Dame and BC were scheduled to play in Estero in December 2002, 2003, and 2004, respectively. Has that changed?

Is there any official release on this "partial schedule" or is all this information throug hearsay and connection that I don't have?

-Fred, DeltaOne81 '03

Any idea whether the BU games are Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday? From a purely selfish point of view, the former would make it a lot easier for those of us who'd be flying in for the weekend to make it.

On the final coaches show last night, we talked about the schedule. 4 games are definites and the remaining three are close to being done:

The 4 definites are: BU Thanksgiving weekend (Sat/Sun 3pm) and the Florida
Tournament (open with Maine and then OSU/Amherst...I stand corrected that it will not be BC in this year's edition).

The 3 that are in the process of being finalized are OSU and Western Michigan (2) all on the road.

We also talked of playing national powers like UNH and others on a more consistent basis. Coach is more than willing on a reciprocating basis (we go there one year/they come here the next), but the bigger western powers pretty much turn their noses up at that. He did say that UNH coach Dick Umilie was interested in coming to Lynah so we'll have to wait and see how that pans out over the next several seasons.

Overall, the non-conference schedule next year looks to be stocked with teams that should most likely be in or near the Top 15 (with the exception of Amherst). Sure would love to see a Denver, Michigan, Minnesota, or MSU on there though...

From what I understand, the schedule for next year avoids home game over break. I think the team is playing 4 road conference games in January.

Thats good about avoiding home games over break...though maybe thats balanced out by the BU games being over Thanksgiving break when many of the student faithful aren't around :-\

I like next year's out of conference. No Alabama/Huntsville patsies. If we do well out of conference next year, we ought to command some respect in the polls.

Damn, it's hard to wait for another six months!

As for games over break, 3 PM on Sunday shouldn't be too much to ask for most of the Lynah Faithful... Saturday is iffier, but I definitely plan on being there. Also, my sister (a Sr in High School) just got into BU and very well may end up there next year... bwaahaha, what a rivalry .

And, Grady, I guess that means no Mercyhurst? That'd be two years we haven't played any MAAC teams (by choice).

-Fred, DeltaOne81 '03

Although Sunday afternoon will be a bit tougher for folks who live way too far away and need to be back for work Monday. (Last flight I could find out of Ithaca connecting to New Orleans was 6:50pm.) But then the schedule is not designed around us.

> OSU and Western Michigan (2) all on the road

Perhaps these are the openers of home-and-home agreements through 2003-04?

Any clues on the Western Mich. dates? That's the shortest road trip from the college hockey bereft Chicago area.

Nope, no Mercyhurst/MAAC worries Fred...Coach had talked of them being on the schedule earlier this year on one of the shows but I'm glad that didn't play out.

No idea on dates, but would throw what is strictly a guess out there that they'll start the season at OSU (after the annual Canadian exhibition) for one game and the WMU pair will be mid to late January. Really cannot picture starting off the year on the road with the WMU pair, but I could be wrong. Just a guess based on last year's weekends and the opening pair against UAH.

A 6:50pm flight out of Ithaca after a 3pm game at Lynah shouldn't be difficult at all, especially on a Sunday. It's not like being there an hour before departure time serves any purpose at ITH other than to make you wait while the octogenarian security officer wakes up and raises the gate.

Beeeej

Grady -

Glad to hear about Umile. I wrote to Schafer during the season asking about the Cornell - UNH series, and perhaps the recent Tourney game will be add'l impetus to set up an annual series.

Have the dates for the Florida tournament been set?

Just a "guess"-timate that the dates will either be 27-28 (Fri/Sat) or 28-29 (Sat/Sun). In talking with Craig Brush (Everblades CEO) on the air last year at the tournament, I believe he mentioned he preferred Sat-Sun to stimulate attendance for the first early game instead of having that at 4pm on a Friday afternoon.

He also wanted to see a better draw of fans overall and felt that with Everblades having games sandwiched around the college tourney was not good. With 4 consecutive days of hockey, naturally the college ones would be lowest on the locals' priority list. He was going to work with their member league (ECHL) and the scheduling to ensure that the college tournament could be showcased and place their pro team on the road during that time.

Don't know if that helps your travel plans, but that's all I know.

Since someone asked...

Here's what I've been able to assemble from other teams' schedules; travel partner games can also be inferred. (Union is supposed to have a schedule on line at [www.union.edu] but their server is timing out.)

Day Date     Team         Site       Time  Source
Fri Nov  8   Yale         home       7pm   [uscho.com] 
Sat Nov 16   Dartmouth    away       7pm   [uscho.com]
Sat Nov 30   BU (nc)      home       3pm   [www.bu.edu]
Sun Dec  1   BU (nc)      home       3pm   [www.bu.edu]
Sat Dec 28   Maine (nc)   Estero, FL       [uscho.com]
Sun Dec 29   OSU/UML (nc) Estero, FL       [uscho.com]
Sat Jan  4   SLU          away             [web.stlawu.edu]
Sun Jan  5   Clarkson     away       7pm   [www.clarkson.edu]
Fri Jan 17   Union        away      7pm   [www.union.edu]
Sat Jan 18   RPI          away       7pm   [www.rpi.edu]
Fri Jan 24   Clarkson     home       7pm   [www.clarkson.edu]
Sat Jan 25   SLU          home             [web.stlawu.edu]
Fri Feb  7   Dartmouth    home             [uscho.com]
Fri Feb 21   RPI          home       7pm   [www.rpi.edu]
Sat Feb 22   Union        home      7pm   [www.union.edu]
Sat Mar  1   Yale         away       7pm   [uscho.com] 

Updates as of May 15 in bold. Interesting that we seem to open and close the ECAC schedule with Yale. (Here's hoping the Nov 1 weekend is something worth flying back for, since I get off for All Saint's Day.)

February

21 at Cornell 7:00
22 at Colgate 7:00

I've updated the previous message.

I got an early rough copy of Colgates schedule. Some of our dates are tentative, but I'd imagine the ECAC part is right. So here is what your ECAC schedule would look like according to what I saw.

Nov 8th- Princeton
9th- Yale
15th- @Dartmouth
16th- @UVM
22nd- Brown
23rd- Harvard
Jan 4th- @Clarkson
5th- @SLU
17th- @RPI
18th- @Union
24th- Clarkson
25th- SLU
31st- @Colgate
Feb 1st- Colgate
7th- Dartmouth
8th- UVM
14th- @ Brown
15th- @Harvard
21st- RPI
22nd- Union
28th- @ Princeton
Mar 1st- @Yale

It looks like the bumped the home and home with you guys till later in the season. In the past, it's always been right at the end of break, and has hampered student attendance a little. This should make it more interesting. I also have news that the SIT has been put on a one year hiatus, the promoters have one year to get sponsors that would actually give them money to promote the tournament. Otherwise, it goes bye bye for good.

Here's what I've got to prepare the pep band's schedule (sorry if the formatting sucks):

The NC part is far less certain than the confirmed ECAC slate.


October
Red and White Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 26 Exhibition Home 7:00 p.m.

November
Friday 1 Ohio State ??? 7:00 p.m
Saturday 2 Findley ??? 7:00 p.m.
Friday 8 Yale Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 9 Princeton Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 15 Vermont Away 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 16 Dartmouth Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 22 Harvard Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 23 Brown Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 30 Boston University Home 3:00 p.m.

December
Sunday 1 Boston University Home 3:00 p.m.
Saturday 28 Florida Everblades College Classic @ Estero, FL
4:00 p.m. Cornell vs. Maine/7:30 p.m. Ohio State vs. UMass Lowell
Sunday 29 4:00 p.m. Consolation/7:30 p.m. Championship

January
Saturday 4 St. Lawrence Away 7:00 p.m.
Sunday 5 Clarkson Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 17 Union Away 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 18 RPI Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 24 Clarkson Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 25 St. Lawrence Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 31 Colgate ??? 7:00 p.m.

February
Saturday 1 Colgate ??? 7:00 p.m.
Friday 7 Dartmouth Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 8 Vermont Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 14 Brown Away 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 15 Harvard Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 21 RPI Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 22 Union Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 28 Princeton Away 7:00 p.m.

March
Saturday 1 Yale Away 7:00 p.m.

Is Findley finally out of their "quasi-D1" state?

Does it matter?

Playing Findlay defines the term "everything to lose, nothing to gain."

Actually, that's why it matters. Playing Findlay last year was a "nothing to lose, nothing to gain" game, since it didn't count. Playing them at the beginning of the season probably doesn't matter too much, although they're not likely to be as good as their winning percentage will imply, so they could provide a team with a relatively easy way to pad their winning percentage and boost their RPI. They won't count towards the last 16 and probably not vs TUC either. The impact on common opponents will likely depend on whether they play certain other teams twice.

No word on whether those games are in Ithaca or Ohio?

I don't think the question as explicitly answered: yes, Findlay is out of their quasi-DI status - it's two year probation, which they've completed. According to a friend of mine at UConn, the NCAAs have now upped it from 2 years to something like 5 (I'll check on this when he wakes up tomorrow ), so next time we have a club/D-II/D-III transfer, it'll be a sucky situation like that for even longer.

-Fred

So does this mean no Western Michigan?

I would guess the games are both at home, because (1) aint no way they would go to Findlay (I really, really, really hope) and (2) the games are on back-to-back nights, so I doubt they'd travel.

But Findlay and Columbus are only 105 miles apart, so they make reasonable travel partners.

> So does this mean no Western Michigan?

Not necessarily. There are only 6 NC games on that provisional schedule (Findlay, OSU, BU, BU, and the 2 tourny games).

Cornell Hockey Assoc. newsletter lists the schedule the same with the following exceptions:

No Finday on Sat. Nov.2, no game listed at all.
Western Michigan Away Fri., Sat. Dec. 6,7
Colgate games as listed, still no decision home vs. away.

So I'd say we are pretty certain of 95% of it.

Is the OSU game home or away?

Sorry, away.
Meaning, sorry I didn't put it up, not that you might get to see it. In fact with a little luck, I can be in Cleveland that weekend, and drive down. That is, unless Cleveland is a cesspool?

Actually, since we have membership to the R&R Hall of Fame, we will likely be there.

> That is, unless Cleveland is a cesspool?

Cleveland is technically a "sewer, " but differentiating between these terms is an academic matter...

Jim Hyla '67 wrote:

Actually, since we have membership to the R&R Hall of Fame, we will likely be there.

Wow, Jim, you really are a man of many talents.

I was planning to try to make it to that weekend's game(s) home or away. The major advantage to home would be that more of the rest of you would be there, and I'd already have tickets. Completely selfishly, I hope we also play Findlay that weekend so I get to see and extra game.

A compilation of what we know so far:


October
(Date?) Red and White Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 26 Exhibition (Opponent?) Home 7:00 p.m.

November
Friday 1 Ohio State (Home or Away?) 7:00 p.m
Friday 8 Yale Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 9 Princeton Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 15 Vermont Away 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 16 Dartmouth Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 22 Harvard Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 23 Brown Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 30 Boston University Home 3:00 p.m.

December
Sunday 1 Boston University Home 3:00 p.m.
Friday 6 Western Michigan Away (Time?)
Saturday 7 Western Michigan Away (Time?)
Saturday 28 Florida Everblades College Classic @ Estero, FL
4:00 p.m. Cornell vs. Maine/7:30 p.m. Ohio State vs. UMass Lowell
Sunday 29 4:00 p.m. Consolation/7:30 p.m. Championship

January
Saturday 4 St. Lawrence Away 7:00 p.m.
Sunday 5 Clarkson Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 17 Union Away 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 18 RPI Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 24 Clarkson Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 25 St. Lawrence Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 31 Colgate (Home or Away?) 7:00 p.m.

February
Saturday 1 Colgate (Home or Away?) 7:00 p.m.
Friday 7 Dartmouth Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 8 Vermont Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 14 Brown Away 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 15 Harvard Away 7:00 p.m.
Friday 21 RPI Home 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 22 Union Home 7:00 p.m.
Friday 28 Princeton Away 7:00 p.m.

March
Saturday 1 Yale Away 7:00 p.m.

Red-White is @ 7, Sat. Oct. 19
Ohio State is listed as away.
Western Michigan games are listed @ 7.
Still don't know Ex. opp. or Colgate home/away.

Just in case anyone has overlooked it, as I did at first, the away north country trip is a Sat/Sun, not Fri/Sat.

I hope that all of you are CHA members and got your own newsletter with the schedule printed.

The official schedule is up:

[cornellbigred.fansonly.com]

Exhibition opponent is York.

The second (Saturday) game of the Colgate home-and-home is in Ithaca.

Does anyone know why we would travel all the way to Ohio St. and then only play one game? Why not make it a pair?

Ivy League limit - 29 regular season games

ECAC - 11 teams x 2 games/teams = 22 games

29 - 22 = 7 ooc games available

Ohio St + 2*BU + 2*Western Mich + 2*Everblades = 7

My guess it Ohio State was the last addition and they just couldn't add another.

-Fred

Sure, everyone on eLynah knows that we are playing BU on 11/30 and 12/1 (we've only been talking about it forever), but surely "Boston" isn't enough information for a lot of folks reading the schedule.