2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by atb9
2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:40PM
Wow, what a win!
3 18:27 Cor Iggulden 5 (Chris Abbott 5, Knoepfli 6)
Iggy scores his 3rd Game Winning goal out of five goals scored.
Three stars were:
#3 Chris Abbot
#2 Mike Iggulden
#1 David McKee
McKee gets his 5th shutout of the season and 10th of his career, three short of Dryden.
McKee shutout streak is now 131:57
From Greg:
After Game 1:
COL 000 00. ... - 0
COR 000 01. ... - 0
middle of the fifth inning
3 18:27 Cor Iggulden 5 (Chris Abbott 5, Knoepfli 6)
Iggy scores his 3rd Game Winning goal out of five goals scored.
Three stars were:
#3 Chris Abbot
#2 Mike Iggulden
#1 David McKee
McKee gets his 5th shutout of the season and 10th of his career, three short of Dryden.
McKee shutout streak is now 131:57
From Greg:
After Game 1:
COL 000 00. ... - 0
COR 000 01. ... - 0
middle of the fifth inning
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2005 09:41PM by atb9.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:47PM
MSU and Michigan are on Fox Sports Detroit here in Ames, Iowa. With about 2 minutes left in the game, MSU just scored to make it 2-1. Go MSU!
(The game has interest of all sorts in the pairwise)
(The game has interest of all sorts in the pairwise)
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:49PM
PC and BC tied tonight, 2-2.
Greg, this is NOT a two-game, total-goals, series. [Thank God those are gone forever.]
Greg, this is NOT a two-game, total-goals, series. [Thank God those are gone forever.]
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:53PM
OMG!!! MSU ties it 2-2 with 1.3 seconds left in regulation on an extra attacker goal.
Edit: Going to OT (obviously!)
Edit: Going to OT (obviously!)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2005 09:54PM by Chris 02.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:55PM
Harvard moves into second place (23 points/16 games) with the late win at Dartmouth and our (25 points/15 games) late win at Colgate (22 points/15 games).
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:56PM
[Q]Chris 02 Wrote:
OMG!!! MSU ties it 2-2 with 1.3 seconds left in regulation on an extra attacker goal.
Edit: Going to OT (obviously!)
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/04/05 09:54PM by Chris 02.[/q]
If Welch is over rated, so is Montoya
OMG!!! MSU ties it 2-2 with 1.3 seconds left in regulation on an extra attacker goal.
Edit: Going to OT (obviously!)
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/04/05 09:54PM by Chris 02.[/q]
If Welch is over rated, so is Montoya
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:58PM
[Q]atb9 Wrote:
Chris 02 Wrote:
OMG!!! MSU ties it 2-2 with 1.3 seconds left in regulation on an extra attacker goal.
Edit: Going to OT (obviously!)
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/04/05 09:54PM by Chris 02.[/Q]
If Welch is over rated, so is Montoya[/q]
If?
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Re: Maine 3 UHN 1
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 09:59PM
Maine up 3-1 at UHN...that would be another big win for us.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2005 10:01PM by atb9.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:05PM
Final MSU 2 MU 2
Re: Current PWR without Maine win
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:15PM
Rk Team PWR Record RPI Rk W-L-T Win % Rk RPI
1 Colorado College 28 1 22-4-2 .8214 1 .6067
2t Boston College 27 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5831
2t Minnesota 27 12 19-10-0 .6552 2 .5918
4t Cornell 26 3 16-4-2 .7727 3 .5858
4t Denver 26 5 18-6-1 .7400 4 .5841
6 Michigan 25 6 20-7-1 .7321 7 .5730
7 Harvard 23 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5673
8 Wisconsin 21 4 19-6-1 .7500 12 .5577
9t New Hampshire 19 8 17-6-3 .7115 9 .5642
9t North Dakota 19 19t 15-10-3 .5893 11 .5601
9t Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5612
12 Ohio State 18 9 19-7-3 .7069 13 .5501
13 Northern Michigan 17 15 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5391
14t Boston University 16 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5794
14t Colgate 16 10 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
16 Dartmouth 14 24 11-9-2 .5455 18 .5315
17 Michigan State 13 25 13-11-2 .5385 16 .5454
18 Maine 12 16 14-8-6 .6071 15 .5461
19 Vermont 11 19t 15-10-3 .5893 19 .5311
20 Minnesota-Duluth 10 30 11-12-5 .4821 25 .5095
1 Colorado College 28 1 22-4-2 .8214 1 .6067
2t Boston College 27 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5831
2t Minnesota 27 12 19-10-0 .6552 2 .5918
4t Cornell 26 3 16-4-2 .7727 3 .5858
4t Denver 26 5 18-6-1 .7400 4 .5841
6 Michigan 25 6 20-7-1 .7321 7 .5730
7 Harvard 23 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5673
8 Wisconsin 21 4 19-6-1 .7500 12 .5577
9t New Hampshire 19 8 17-6-3 .7115 9 .5642
9t North Dakota 19 19t 15-10-3 .5893 11 .5601
9t Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5612
12 Ohio State 18 9 19-7-3 .7069 13 .5501
13 Northern Michigan 17 15 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5391
14t Boston University 16 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5794
14t Colgate 16 10 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
16 Dartmouth 14 24 11-9-2 .5455 18 .5315
17 Michigan State 13 25 13-11-2 .5385 16 .5454
18 Maine 12 16 14-8-6 .6071 15 .5461
19 Vermont 11 19t 15-10-3 .5893 19 .5311
20 Minnesota-Duluth 10 30 11-12-5 .4821 25 .5095
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:16PM
With early precincts in...now #4 in PWR. ![banana banana](http://elf.elynah.com/smileys/banana.gif)
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Re: Current PWR without Maine win
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:16PM
wisconsin beats Minny 3-1
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:16PM
As of this moment in time, ladies and gentlemen, Cornell is a #1 seed (4th in PWR).
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:17PM
Man, y7ou guys snuck three posts in while I typed.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:18PM
srcatch all that ... as of 10:19 we're now tied for #2!!!!!!!
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Re: Current PWR with Minn loss and with Maine win
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:19PM
1 Colorado College 26 1 22-4-2 .8214 1 .6066
2t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 2 .5898
2t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 3 .5861
2t Boston College 25 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5830
5 Denver 24 5 18-6-1 .7400 4 .5850
6 Michigan 22 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 21 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5676
8 Wisconsin 20 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5640
9 North Dakota 18 19t 15-10-3 .5893 10 .5605
10 Mass.-Lowell 17 11 15-6-4 .6800 11 .5597
11t New Hampshire 15 10 17-7-3 .6852 12 .5594
11t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 14 .5484
11t Northern Michigan 15 16 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
14 Boston University 14 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5791
15t Maine 13 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5530
15t Colgate 13 9 19-8-0 .7037 15 .5482
17 Dartmouth 12 24 11-9-2 .5455 18 .5312
18 Michigan State 10 25 13-11-3 .5370 16 .5473
19 Vermont 9 19t 15-10-3 .5893 19 .5300
20t Northeastern 7 33 10-13-4 .4444 20 .5283
20t Brown 7 12 12-6-3 .6429 22 .5218
20t Nebraska-Omaha 7 22 14-10-3 .5741 23 .5152
20t Minnesota-Duluth 7 32 11-13-5 .4655 28 .5012
2t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 2 .5898
2t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 3 .5861
2t Boston College 25 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5830
5 Denver 24 5 18-6-1 .7400 4 .5850
6 Michigan 22 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 21 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5676
8 Wisconsin 20 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5640
9 North Dakota 18 19t 15-10-3 .5893 10 .5605
10 Mass.-Lowell 17 11 15-6-4 .6800 11 .5597
11t New Hampshire 15 10 17-7-3 .6852 12 .5594
11t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 14 .5484
11t Northern Michigan 15 16 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
14 Boston University 14 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5791
15t Maine 13 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5530
15t Colgate 13 9 19-8-0 .7037 15 .5482
17 Dartmouth 12 24 11-9-2 .5455 18 .5312
18 Michigan State 10 25 13-11-3 .5370 16 .5473
19 Vermont 9 19t 15-10-3 .5893 19 .5300
20t Northeastern 7 33 10-13-4 .4444 20 .5283
20t Brown 7 12 12-6-3 .6429 22 .5218
20t Nebraska-Omaha 7 22 14-10-3 .5741 23 .5152
20t Minnesota-Duluth 7 32 11-13-5 .4655 28 .5012
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2005 10:36PM by atb9.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:19PM
Seconds later, we're 3rd (and tied for 2nd). Dizzy heights.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:20PM
1 Colorado College 26 1 22-4-2 .8214 1 .6051 2t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 2 .5893 2t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 3 .5859 2t Boston College 25 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5832 5 Denver 24 5 18-6-1 .7400 4 .5832 6 Michigan 22 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724 7 Harvard 21 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5673 8 Wisconsin 20 4 20-6-1 .7593 10 .5638 9t New Hampshire 17 8 17-6-3 .7115 9 .5641 9t Mass.-Lowell 17 11 15-6-4 .6800 11 .5611
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2005 10:23PM by Greg Berge.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:22PM
Unbelievable win. Just unbelievable.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:25PM
[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
Unbelievable win. Just unbelievable.[/q]
Damn tease, Ari! Get typing!![;-) ;-)](http://elf.elynah.com/smileys/4.gif)
Unbelievable win. Just unbelievable.[/q]
Damn tease, Ari! Get typing!
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: The K-Gun (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:25PM
Watching the game on Tivo, Moulson looked really under the weather during his 1st intermission interview. Get that guy some Nyquil so he's ready to go tomorrow!
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:28PM
EDIT: Maine 3-1 over UHN FINAL
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:32PM
Cornell sat back a lot in the third period. The only great chance they had in the third period was the one they scored on. It was almost as if Schafer knew exactly what to do after the Colgate timeout. After all, he knows Vaughn and for some reason Mormina pinched off the draw setting up the 2-on-1. McKee was spectacular, making two saves in the third period that were unbelievable. As far as I am concerned, he is the best goalie I have seen at Cornell since Jason Elliot. I didn't think much of LeNeveu but I sure thought highly of Underhill. The line of Varteressian-Iggulden-Carefoot I thought was Cornell's best line, shutting down Colgate's top line and actually outchancing that line. Downs and Cook both were awesome. Glover continues to impress. Both powerplays looked good, but couldn't solve either goaltender. Just an unbelievable win. I really didn't think Cornell had a shot at winning late in the third period as they were totally sitting back. What separates the good teams from the great teams is the great teams find ways to win. The last two games have really pushed Cornell from "good" status to "great" status. Now they have to win tomorrow. It's gonna be really tough.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: KenP (---.tu.ok.cox.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:33PM
The current Michigan PWR comparison:
The only way the BC and DU comparisons will stay in Cornell's advantage is if (a) we don't lose, and (b) they do. We're going to take big hits to our RPI when we play Princeton/Yale/Union/Rensssleer
Still, it's nice to see right now!
Cornell vs Michigan .5859 1 RPI 0 .5724 8-4-2 .6429 1 TUC 0 .6111 10-6-2 1-1-1 .5000 0 COp 1 .7000 3-1-1 0-0-0 0 H2H 0 0-0-0 2 TOT 1The COp comparison is over. The TUC comparson is still up in the air. Michigan can still easily win this comparison.
The only way the BC and DU comparisons will stay in Cornell's advantage is if (a) we don't lose, and (b) they do. We're going to take big hits to our RPI when we play Princeton/Yale/Union/Rensssleer
Still, it's nice to see right now!
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:33PM
[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
Cornell sat back a lot in the third period. The only great chance they had in the third period was the one they scored on. It was almost as if Schafer knew exactly what to do after the Colgate timeout. After all, he knows Vaughn and for some reason Mormina pinched off the draw setting up the 2-on-1. McKee was spectacular, making two saves in the third period that were unbelievable. As far as I am concerned, he is the best goalie I have seen at Cornell since Jason Elliot. I didn't think much of LeNeveu but I sure thought highly of Underhill. The line of Varteressian-Iggulden-Carefoot I thought was Cornell's best line, shutting down Colgate's top line and actually outchancing that line. Downs and Cook both were awesome. Glover continues to impress. Both powerplays looked good, but couldn't solve either goaltender. Just an unbelievable win. I really didn't think Cornell had a shot at winning late in the third period as they were totally sitting back. What separates the good teams from the great teams is the great teams find ways to win. The last two games have really pushed Cornell from "good" status to "great" status. Now they have to win tomorrow. It's gonna be really tough.[/q]
Thanks, Ari! I'm out! 'Night everyone!
Cornell sat back a lot in the third period. The only great chance they had in the third period was the one they scored on. It was almost as if Schafer knew exactly what to do after the Colgate timeout. After all, he knows Vaughn and for some reason Mormina pinched off the draw setting up the 2-on-1. McKee was spectacular, making two saves in the third period that were unbelievable. As far as I am concerned, he is the best goalie I have seen at Cornell since Jason Elliot. I didn't think much of LeNeveu but I sure thought highly of Underhill. The line of Varteressian-Iggulden-Carefoot I thought was Cornell's best line, shutting down Colgate's top line and actually outchancing that line. Downs and Cook both were awesome. Glover continues to impress. Both powerplays looked good, but couldn't solve either goaltender. Just an unbelievable win. I really didn't think Cornell had a shot at winning late in the third period as they were totally sitting back. What separates the good teams from the great teams is the great teams find ways to win. The last two games have really pushed Cornell from "good" status to "great" status. Now they have to win tomorrow. It's gonna be really tough.[/q]
Thanks, Ari! I'm out! 'Night everyone!
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.nrp4.mon.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 10:44PM
Any chance one of the computer savy locals who Tivo'd/taped the game can video capture the winning goal and make it available on the web? Please? Pretty please?
Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:08PM
1t Colorado College 27 1 23-4-2 .8276 1 .6060
1t Denver 27 5 19-6-1 .7500 2 .5889
3 Boston College 26 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5828
4t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 3 .5886
4t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 4 .5860
6 Michigan 23 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 22 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5675
8 Wisconsin 21 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5629
9 Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5598
10t New Hampshire 17 10 17-7-3 .6852 11 .5593
10t North Dakota 17 22 15-11-3 .5690 12 .5580
12 Northern Michigan 16 17 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
13t Boston University 15 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5793
13t Colgate 15 9 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
13t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 15 .5483
16 Maine 14 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5524
17 Dartmouth 13 24 11-9-2 .5455 18 .5311
18 Michigan State 11 25 13-11-3 .5370 16 .5473
19 Vermont 10 19 15-10-3 .5893 19 .5300
20t Northeastern 8 33 10-13-4 .4444 20 .5283
20t Brown 8 12 12-6-3 .6429 22 .5217
20t Nebraska-Omaha 8 21 14-10-3 .5741 23 .5145
20t Minnesota-Duluth 8 32 11-13-5 .4655 29 .5004
1t Denver 27 5 19-6-1 .7500 2 .5889
3 Boston College 26 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5828
4t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 3 .5886
4t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 4 .5860
6 Michigan 23 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 22 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5675
8 Wisconsin 21 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5629
9 Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5598
10t New Hampshire 17 10 17-7-3 .6852 11 .5593
10t North Dakota 17 22 15-11-3 .5690 12 .5580
12 Northern Michigan 16 17 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
13t Boston University 15 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5793
13t Colgate 15 9 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
13t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 15 .5483
16 Maine 14 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5524
17 Dartmouth 13 24 11-9-2 .5455 18 .5311
18 Michigan State 11 25 13-11-3 .5370 16 .5473
19 Vermont 10 19 15-10-3 .5893 19 .5300
20t Northeastern 8 33 10-13-4 .4444 20 .5283
20t Brown 8 12 12-6-3 .6429 22 .5217
20t Nebraska-Omaha 8 21 14-10-3 .5741 23 .5145
20t Minnesota-Duluth 8 32 11-13-5 .4655 29 .5004
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Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:17PM
[Q]atb9 Wrote:
1t Colorado College 27 1 23-4-2 .8276 1 .6060
1t Denver 27 5 19-6-1 .7500 2 .5889
3 Boston College 26 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5828
4t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 3 .5886
4t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 4 .5860
6 Michigan 23 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 22 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5675
8 Wisconsin 21 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5629
9 Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5598
10t New Hampshire 17 10 17-7-3 .6852 11 .5593
10t North Dakota 17 22 15-11-3 .5690 12 .5580
12 Northern Michigan 16 17 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
13t Boston University 15 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5793
13t Colgate 15 9 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
13t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 15 .5483
16 Maine 14 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5524
[/q]
It's too soon to matter, but, after all the juggling tonight, we'd still go to Minnesota.
1t Colorado College 27 1 23-4-2 .8276 1 .6060
1t Denver 27 5 19-6-1 .7500 2 .5889
3 Boston College 26 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5828
4t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 3 .5886
4t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 4 .5860
6 Michigan 23 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 22 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5675
8 Wisconsin 21 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5629
9 Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5598
10t New Hampshire 17 10 17-7-3 .6852 11 .5593
10t North Dakota 17 22 15-11-3 .5690 12 .5580
12 Northern Michigan 16 17 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
13t Boston University 15 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5793
13t Colgate 15 9 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
13t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 15 .5483
16 Maine 14 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5524
[/q]
It's too soon to matter, but, after all the juggling tonight, we'd still go to Minnesota.
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Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:19PM
how the hell to do we go to minnesota if we're the 2a?
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Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.cust.bestweb.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:25PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
atb9 Wrote:
1t Colorado College 27 1 23-4-2 .8276 1 .6060
1t Denver 27 5 19-6-1 .7500 2 .5889
3 Boston College 26 2 17-3-5 .7800 5 .5828
4t Minnesota 25 13 19-11-0 .6333 3 .5886
4t Cornell 25 3 16-4-2 .7727 4 .5860
6 Michigan 23 6 20-7-2 .7241 7 .5724
7 Harvard 22 7 14-5-2 .7143 8 .5675
8 Wisconsin 21 4 20-6-1 .7593 9 .5629
9 Mass.-Lowell 19 11 15-6-4 .6800 10 .5598
10t New Hampshire 17 10 17-7-3 .6852 11 .5593
10t North Dakota 17 22 15-11-3 .5690 12 .5580
12 Northern Michigan 16 17 14-8-5 .6111 17 .5397
13t Boston University 15 18 15-10-2 .5926 6 .5793
13t Colgate 15 9 19-8-0 .7037 14 .5483
13t Ohio State 15 8 19-7-3 .7069 15 .5483
16 Maine 14 14 15-8-6 .6207 13 .5524
[/Q]
It's too soon to matter, but, after all the juggling tonight, we'd still go to Minnesota.[/q]
And Minnesota would catch a break because BU (the top 4 seed) can't go west, so they'd get colgate (in a bracket with cornell and n. mich) and then BC can't play BU either, so they'd get a break and draw AHA/CHA team and Denver is left bitching about being the #2 seed in the tourney having to play a first round game out east against host BU. At least the odds of it all shaking out this was are slim...
Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.cust.bestweb.net)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:26PM
[Q]ben03 Wrote:
how the hell to do we go to minnesota if we're the 2a?[/q]
Because #4 overall would be in a bracket with #5 overall. Minnesota is #4 and a host. therefore CU would go to Minny as the 2 seed in that bracket.
how the hell to do we go to minnesota if we're the 2a?[/q]
Because #4 overall would be in a bracket with #5 overall. Minnesota is #4 and a host. therefore CU would go to Minny as the 2 seed in that bracket.
Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:31PM
[Q]ben03 Wrote:
how the hell to do we go to minnesota if we're the 2a?[/q]
Minnesota's the 1d. The 1d-4a winner would play the 2a-3d winner, barring interconference first round games mucking it up.
how the hell to do we go to minnesota if we're the 2a?[/q]
Minnesota's the 1d. The 1d-4a winner would play the 2a-3d winner, barring interconference first round games mucking it up.
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Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:33PM
[Q]Chris '03 Wrote:
At least the odds of it all shaking out this was are slim...[/q]
Right. Passes time, though.
At least the odds of it all shaking out this was are slim...[/q]
Right. Passes time, though.
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Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: ben03 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2005 11:46PM
well here's to hoping everything gets mucked up!
so we can stay east
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 12:33AM
Some more comments from someone else who was at the game...
Man, what an amazing game. Saying that Cornell and Colgate were just about evenly matched didn't know the half of it. A lot of the game ended up in the neutral zone. Both McKee and Silverthorn made awesome saves. Colgate had the advantage in speed but it was effectively neutralized by Cornell's excellent work along the boards. The lone goal was incredible. Chris Abbott's been making some amazing plays lately, and it's about time one of them finally paid off.
Man, what an amazing game. Saying that Cornell and Colgate were just about evenly matched didn't know the half of it. A lot of the game ended up in the neutral zone. Both McKee and Silverthorn made awesome saves. Colgate had the advantage in speed but it was effectively neutralized by Cornell's excellent work along the boards. The lone goal was incredible. Chris Abbott's been making some amazing plays lately, and it's about time one of them finally paid off.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 01:00AM
And Cornell climbs into the red for the first time since 2003: [www.tbrw.info]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2005 01:37AM by Greg Berge.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: BCrespi (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 02:51AM
How about Mike Iggulden? No gaudy stats, but the two biggest goals of the season. Clutch baby. Man, what a win. Great job fans for all those who were there with us. I have the Colgate student section cheer count of different cheers at 4. Pathetic really. But I've got to hand it to them, at least they were obnoxious and drunk.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 07:48AM
[Q]BCrespi Wrote: How about Mike Iggulden? No gaudy stats, but the two biggest goals of the season. Clutch baby. Man, what a win. Great job fans for all those who were there with us. I have the Colgate student section cheer count of different cheers at 4. Pathetic really. But I've got to hand it to them, at least they were obnoxious and drunk.[/q]
Plus his pair at our lone all-victorious Everblades last winter in the 4-3 title game.
Plus his pair at our lone all-victorious Everblades last winter in the 4-3 title game.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 07:59AM
Gate is the best team I've seen us play this year. I didn't see Fla or MSU. However their fans don't deserve them. I can't believe how obnoxious, and drunk (do I repeat myself) some of them were. The ushers did at least keep fights from breaking out, but why some of them weren't tossed out I'll never understand. All I can say is, I hope some of our officials saw them, they might respect our fans a little more. I thought our fans were great, and by comparison, oh my god.
Yes they were faster, but it was certainly nice to beat them on a perfect headman pass leading to a perfect 2 on 1 play. Gate stayed back from the forecheck and did more trapping than I expected. Overall, I think they will reprsent the ECAC very well, if they get a bid.
Did anyone else think that Gate scored a goal about midway through the third period? A few of us thought a puck went in hard, hit the bottom back bar and came right out. The goal judge made no motion, the ref was in good position, and Gate didn't complain, even later after the play stopped. So maybe we saw an optical illusion. I doubt it'll be visible on the TV replay, so I don't think I'll ever know.
Our PP looked good and the puck movement, with variations, gets better every game. If we had another sharpshooter or two (greedy am I?) it would be awesome. Gate will be a difficult team to beat 3 times, but I'm ready to try for the second time.
Yes they were faster, but it was certainly nice to beat them on a perfect headman pass leading to a perfect 2 on 1 play. Gate stayed back from the forecheck and did more trapping than I expected. Overall, I think they will reprsent the ECAC very well, if they get a bid.
Did anyone else think that Gate scored a goal about midway through the third period? A few of us thought a puck went in hard, hit the bottom back bar and came right out. The goal judge made no motion, the ref was in good position, and Gate didn't complain, even later after the play stopped. So maybe we saw an optical illusion. I doubt it'll be visible on the TV replay, so I don't think I'll ever know.
Our PP looked good and the puck movement, with variations, gets better every game. If we had another sharpshooter or two (greedy am I?) it would be awesome. Gate will be a difficult team to beat 3 times, but I'm ready to try for the second time.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: KenP (---.abrfc.noaa.gov)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:06AM
For what it's worth, we're guaranteed at least 8th place in the ECAC:
Team Rank Hi Lo Cornell 1 1 8 Harvard 2 1 10 Colgate 3 1 10 Vermont 4 1 11 Brown 5 1 12 Dartmouth 5 1 12 St. Lawrence 7 1 12 Union 8 2 12 Clarkson 9 1 12 Princeton 10 2 12 Rensselaer 10 4 12 Yale 12 5 12
Re: Current PWR with Minn loss, Denver win, and with Maine win
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:14AM
[Q]ben03 Wrote:
well here's to hoping everything gets mucked up!
so we can stay east[/q]
You bet.
well here's to hoping everything gets mucked up!
so we can stay east[/q]
You bet.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:26AM
This is good insight. A lot of us have been hoping for neutral reporting (as best one can be while rooting for Cornell) on who had the upper hand in the game and how well Colgate played.
The USCHO story was pretty convoluted using a quote to explain the goal. The Cornell bigred.com game story, dry as it was, was a little better. The faceoff was at neutral ice? Cornell's end? Did somebody take down (legally?) a Colgate player or get around him? Ah, where is that TV clip ...?
The USCHO story was pretty convoluted using a quote to explain the goal. The Cornell bigred.com game story, dry as it was, was a little better. The faceoff was at neutral ice? Cornell's end? Did somebody take down (legally?) a Colgate player or get around him? Ah, where is that TV clip ...?
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Drew042 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:42AM
Definetly one of the best games I have seen in the last few years. Colgate has a great team, but they clearly need to forecheck more often. I still think that O'Byrne is a liability on defense. He has numerous turnovers, including one in the third that had it not been for McKee would have been an easy colgate goal. The only thing going for him is his size...he needs to start to establishing himself more as a complete player.
The last time I was at Colgate I was in the townie section, but this year I was able to witness the entire student section and I was amazed at how drunk and beligerant they all were. The only thing Colgate had going for them was the really nice security gaurd in front of the Cornell section who repeatedly said how much he hated the Colgate students.
Should be a great game tonight...it'll be hard to get two from Colgate! LGR!!
The last time I was at Colgate I was in the townie section, but this year I was able to witness the entire student section and I was amazed at how drunk and beligerant they all were. The only thing Colgate had going for them was the really nice security gaurd in front of the Cornell section who repeatedly said how much he hated the Colgate students.
Should be a great game tonight...it'll be hard to get two from Colgate! LGR!!
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:43AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
This is good insight. A lot of us have been hoping for neutral reporting (as best one can be while rooting for Cornell) on who had the upper hand in the game and how well Colgate played.
The USCHO story was pretty convoluted using a quote to explain the goal. The Cornell bigred.com game story, dry as it was, was a little better. The faceoff was at neutral ice? Cornell's end? Did somebody take down (legally?) a Colgate player or get around him? Ah, where is that TV clip ...?
[/q]I discussed this as a response to a question on the game thread. The faceoff was to the right of McKee. The puck went to the boards where Downs threw it arond behind the net to Knoepfli on the left boards. He was being checked, and either shot it up through the Gate player, or off the boards to Abbott. The rest is history.
This is good insight. A lot of us have been hoping for neutral reporting (as best one can be while rooting for Cornell) on who had the upper hand in the game and how well Colgate played.
The USCHO story was pretty convoluted using a quote to explain the goal. The Cornell bigred.com game story, dry as it was, was a little better. The faceoff was at neutral ice? Cornell's end? Did somebody take down (legally?) a Colgate player or get around him? Ah, where is that TV clip ...?
[/q]I discussed this as a response to a question on the game thread. The faceoff was to the right of McKee. The puck went to the boards where Downs threw it arond behind the net to Knoepfli on the left boards. He was being checked, and either shot it up through the Gate player, or off the boards to Abbott. The rest is history.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: lhayes (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:44AM
From what I recall of the winning goal, there was a Colgate player falling to the ice somewhere between the red line and the 'Gate blue line behind the play. But again, the clip is too short and the angles of sight don't indicate what happened exactly.
As for a TV clip, I think the Time Warner ch. 26 schedule for Saturday (today) has replays of the game, so perhaps a tech savy soul can tape it and check it out.
As for a TV clip, I think the Time Warner ch. 26 schedule for Saturday (today) has replays of the game, so perhaps a tech savy soul can tape it and check it out.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:57AM
Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination. Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: TShen (---.va.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 09:23AM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination. Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?[/q]
I thought Chris was paired with Cam and Sawada before this weekend. Did the coach shuffle the lines again? If so, what were the lines for last night?
Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination. Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?[/q]
I thought Chris was paired with Cam and Sawada before this weekend. Did the coach shuffle the lines again? If so, what were the lines for last night?
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 09:32AM
[Q]TShen Wrote:
Al DeFlorio Wrote:
Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination. Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?[/Q]
I thought Chris was paired with Cam and Sawada before this weekend. Did the coach shuffle the lines again? If so, what were the lines for last night?[/q]
The Abbott-Abbott-Sawada was listed on livestats as one of the four lines. Iggulden was listed with Varteressian and Carefoot, and Knoepfli with Pegoraro and Scott. So somebody chose one from column A, one from column B, and one from column C for the "big" face-off after Colgate's time-out. Perhaps Abbott for the draw, and the Iggulden/Knoepfli pairing for their defensive skills?
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Anne 85 (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 09:55AM
Since the faceoff was in the defensive zone, I suspect Chris Abbott was on to take a critical faceoff. I've seen Coach make this substitution a number of times in the last few games.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 10:29AM
Well, I think the board play by Knoepfli is settled. Both the IJ and Syracuse Post-Standard say he deflected it. Here's the quote:[Q]The Big Red won the draw, and senior defenseman Jeremy Downs wrapped the puck behind the net and up the boards toward teammate Mike Knoepfli. A Colgate player pinched in from the point in an attempt to keep the puck in the Cornell end, but Knoepfli used his body as a shield and let the puck carom off his skate and up the ice. There, Chris Abbott picked it up and flew toward Siverthorn with teammate Mike Iggulden trailing and only one defender back. [/Q]It now makes sense since the puck changed direction, going toward the boards and then away, and also came out less than cleanly.
Here's the link [www.syracuse.com]
Here's the link [www.syracuse.com]
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 10:57AM
1) This Post-Standard story had the clearest explanation yet of the lone goal.
>>> The game appeared destined to end in a scoreless tie when Colgate called a timeout with 1:44 to play and a faceoff due to be dropped to McKee's right. ... The Big Red won the draw, and senior defenseman Jeremy Downs wrapped the puck behind the net and up the boards toward teammate Mike Knoepfli. A Colgate player pinched in from the point in an attempt to keep the puck in the Cornell end, but Knoepfli used his body as a shield and let the puck carom off his skate and up the ice. There, Chris Abbott picked it up and flew toward Siverthorn with teammate Mike Iggulden trailing and only one defender back. "Mike was all alone," Abbott said. Iggulden tipped Abbott's perfect pass over Silverthorn's outstretched stick, and Cornell suddenly had its seventh consecutive victory in the bag.
2) The lede, however, shows that when you work for a medium-size paper, you've got to give everything a local angle. (Lampoon headline in spoof paper: ~"Two local men among dead as earthquake kills 10 million in China."
>>> By Dave Rahme
Staff writer
Nothing could coax much offense out of the Colgate and Cornell hockey teams Friday night. Not a sellout crowd of 2,246 crammed inside Starr Rink to witness the in-state rivals square off for the 123rd time in a rivalry that commenced when World War I was still fresh in the minds of Central New Yorkers. Not the exhortations from each team's pep band, which held a back-and-forth duel of their own from start to finish. Not even the referee's whistle, which gave each team three extra-man advantages.
>>> The game appeared destined to end in a scoreless tie when Colgate called a timeout with 1:44 to play and a faceoff due to be dropped to McKee's right. ... The Big Red won the draw, and senior defenseman Jeremy Downs wrapped the puck behind the net and up the boards toward teammate Mike Knoepfli. A Colgate player pinched in from the point in an attempt to keep the puck in the Cornell end, but Knoepfli used his body as a shield and let the puck carom off his skate and up the ice. There, Chris Abbott picked it up and flew toward Siverthorn with teammate Mike Iggulden trailing and only one defender back. "Mike was all alone," Abbott said. Iggulden tipped Abbott's perfect pass over Silverthorn's outstretched stick, and Cornell suddenly had its seventh consecutive victory in the bag.
2) The lede, however, shows that when you work for a medium-size paper, you've got to give everything a local angle. (Lampoon headline in spoof paper: ~"Two local men among dead as earthquake kills 10 million in China."
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>>> By Dave Rahme
Staff writer
Nothing could coax much offense out of the Colgate and Cornell hockey teams Friday night. Not a sellout crowd of 2,246 crammed inside Starr Rink to witness the in-state rivals square off for the 123rd time in a rivalry that commenced when World War I was still fresh in the minds of Central New Yorkers. Not the exhortations from each team's pep band, which held a back-and-forth duel of their own from start to finish. Not even the referee's whistle, which gave each team three extra-man advantages.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:01AM
That's a gem. Reminds me of the local angles played in the local fishwrap vis-a-vis the war. "Local man once bought gas from stepfather of marine..."
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:05AM
On the Cornell archive audio the timeout is at 2:53:54.
The faceoff is at 2:55:12.
Jason's call is excellent.
The faceoff is at 2:55:12.
Jason's call is excellent.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2005 11:07AM by Greg Berge.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:10AM
[Q]atb9 Wrote:
Harvard moves into second place (23 points/16 games) with the late win at Dartmouth and our (25 points/15 games) late win at Colgate (22 points/15 games).[/q]
Meh. They've played one more game than Colgate, and tied it. Colgate is still in second by percentage.
Harvard moves into second place (23 points/16 games) with the late win at Dartmouth and our (25 points/15 games) late win at Colgate (22 points/15 games).[/q]
Meh. They've played one more game than Colgate, and tied it. Colgate is still in second by percentage.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:14AM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
atb9 Wrote:
Harvard moves into second place (23 points/16 games) with the late win at Dartmouth and our (25 points/15 games) late win at Colgate (22 points/15 games).[/Q]
Meh. They've played one more game than Colgate, and tied it. Colgate is still in second by percentage.[/q]
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: atb9 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:16AM
[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:
On the Cornell archive audio the timeout is at 2:53:54.
The faceoff is at 2:55:12.
Jason's call is excellent.[/q]
If you're a little slow like me and you're having trouble finding the archived games, here's the link
[cornellbigred.collegesports.com]
even better link
[cornellbigred.collegesports.com]
thanks for the heads up, Greg!
On the Cornell archive audio the timeout is at 2:53:54.
The faceoff is at 2:55:12.
Jason's call is excellent.[/q]
If you're a little slow like me and you're having trouble finding the archived games, here's the link
[cornellbigred.collegesports.com]
even better link
[cornellbigred.collegesports.com]
thanks for the heads up, Greg!
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:35AM
[Q]Jim Hyla Wrote:
Did anyone else think that Gate scored a goal about midway through the third period? A few of us thought a puck went in hard, hit the bottom back bar and came right out. The goal judge made no motion, the ref was in good position, and Gate didn't complain, even later after the play stopped. So maybe we saw an optical illusion. I doubt it'll be visible on the TV replay, so I don't think I'll ever know.[/q]
I was sitting pretty much right behind the net, near the top of that section. My immediate thought was that the puck was in and out too. When I saw that the goal judge had not turned on the red light, I immediately looked at the ref, fearing that he'd be signalling a goal. I was obviously pleased when I saw he was letting the play continue.
I TiVo'd the game, and watched that play a couple of times when I got home. The TV announcers thought it might have hit a pipe. But there was definitely no sound of that. The replay itself does not show where the puck hit, though it does show the puck coming off at a pretty strange angle.
If I had to take my best guess, I think the puck hit the inside, bottom padded portion of the goal cage and popped right out. That's what it looked like as I watched it live, from about 30 feet away, and nothing I saw on the replays makes me think otherwise. Although I am certainly not sure, I think we caught a break.
Andy W.
Did anyone else think that Gate scored a goal about midway through the third period? A few of us thought a puck went in hard, hit the bottom back bar and came right out. The goal judge made no motion, the ref was in good position, and Gate didn't complain, even later after the play stopped. So maybe we saw an optical illusion. I doubt it'll be visible on the TV replay, so I don't think I'll ever know.[/q]
I was sitting pretty much right behind the net, near the top of that section. My immediate thought was that the puck was in and out too. When I saw that the goal judge had not turned on the red light, I immediately looked at the ref, fearing that he'd be signalling a goal. I was obviously pleased when I saw he was letting the play continue.
I TiVo'd the game, and watched that play a couple of times when I got home. The TV announcers thought it might have hit a pipe. But there was definitely no sound of that. The replay itself does not show where the puck hit, though it does show the puck coming off at a pretty strange angle.
If I had to take my best guess, I think the puck hit the inside, bottom padded portion of the goal cage and popped right out. That's what it looked like as I watched it live, from about 30 feet away, and nothing I saw on the replays makes me think otherwise. Although I am certainly not sure, I think we caught a break.
Andy W.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 11:54AM
I really thought that play was in. The officials didn't even see it hit the post as they didn't wave anything off. The way it ricocheted off whatever it hit, it sure seemed like a goal.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Larry72 (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 12:03PM
I asked the goal judge about that play after the game. He said it did happen fast and that he was sure it did NOT go in. When it happened he also looked over at the ref for confirmation.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.patmedia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 12:12PM
So I'm getting the distinct feeling that the difference between the first few months (games like Mich St x2, @Vermont, and the Everblades (even though we won one) - @Dartmouth not included though) and the last couple months (Union, Clarkson (really only one goal let up, that 2nd goal Paul-Kariya-baseballed shot was ridiculous), Colgate, etc) was that McKee has turned from a good enough goalie to a very good goalie. Reading the summary of saves on that article and witnessing his performance under pressure and saves last weekend, I think he's turned the corner.
Its kind of a shame that our offense can't be potent enough (and I just mean regularly being able to put home 3, even against good teams) that we don't require seriously impressive goaltending to be a national threat, but I'll take it either way
Its kind of a shame that our offense can't be potent enough (and I just mean regularly being able to put home 3, even against good teams) that we don't require seriously impressive goaltending to be a national threat, but I'll take it either way
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.patmedia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 12:14PM
[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:
And Cornell climbs into the red for the first time since 2003:
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/05/05 01:37AM by Greg Berge.[/q]
And the earliest other than 2002/2003 and years up to 1970. Not bad company at all, especially with a clearly improved ECAC since '02/'03.
BTW, in PWR, Minn and DU switched places, putting us 5 corresponding to DU's 4. So we'd be in Amherst. Still to early to mean anything, but fun to watch!
And Cornell climbs into the red for the first time since 2003:
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/05/05 01:37AM by Greg Berge.[/q]
And the earliest other than 2002/2003 and years up to 1970. Not bad company at all, especially with a clearly improved ECAC since '02/'03.
BTW, in PWR, Minn and DU switched places, putting us 5 corresponding to DU's 4. So we'd be in Amherst. Still to early to mean anything, but fun to watch!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2005 12:16PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 12:22PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:And the earliest other than 2002/2003 and years up to 1970. Not bad company at all, especially with a clearly improved ECAC since '02/'03.[/q]Thus far this is a virtual clone of the 2002 season. Not bad company at all.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate: Was it a goal?
Posted by: Giffy (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 12:57PM
My friends and I were at the perfect angle in the front row for viewing the shot. It clearly hit the post and bounced accross the crease. It definately was not in, but certainly scared us.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Tub(a) (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: February 05, 2005 01:01PM
Sorry this is late, but I am so proud of the Faithful.
We really were LOUD and together. There were several moments where the Hamilton elite just sat and stared at us in awe.
I hope to see more of that energy tonight!
We really were LOUD and together. There were several moments where the Hamilton elite just sat and stared at us in awe.
I hope to see more of that energy tonight!
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 01:04PM
We will do our best. And let's hope Silverthorn wears his pink tights again.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 02:04PM
[Q]Will Wrote:
We will do our best. And let's hope Silverthorn wears his pink tights again.[/q]
Or if he doesn't you can ask him why he didn't.
We will do our best. And let's hope Silverthorn wears his pink tights again.[/q]
Or if he doesn't you can ask him why he didn't.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Steve M (4.29.49.---)
Date: February 05, 2005 02:07PM
Good article with detailed description of the goal. Thanks for the link Jim.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 03:32PM
BTW, we heard Swanee loud and clear on the feed, and it sounded excellent.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 06:02PM
The other difference is the way the puck bounces. We had some unlucky breaks in the first half of the season and some lucky breaks. Now they're going almost all our way. That we won all but one of our one-goal games (actually all but one of our games period) so far in 2005, that's luck and that's skill combined. Ditto if we win out the rest of the way. If we win all but say two the rest of the way, that's skill and the pendulum swinging the other way.
If we replayed that 1969-70 season but let one more butterfly flap its wings in Tokyo, maybe that year would have gone 27-1-1.
Iggulden is a clutch player, but he's also damn lucky. OTOH, Vermont was lucky to catch us when we were two goals up in the third before the New Year.
If we replayed that 1969-70 season but let one more butterfly flap its wings in Tokyo, maybe that year would have gone 27-1-1.
Iggulden is a clutch player, but he's also damn lucky. OTOH, Vermont was lucky to catch us when we were two goals up in the third before the New Year.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 06:04PM
There are Colgate fans heading to Lynah? Just one unkind thought: If they drink like they allegedly did last night, is it possible they'll chuck their fish on the ice?
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 06:13PM
The 'Gate fans who travel are, on the whole, genuinely good fans. The problem children are the ones who just saunter in to get out of the howling Hamilton wind and don't give a damn about hockey.
So be good hosts. If you were insulted or thrown up on or whatever last night, it probably wasn't the folks you'll see in Section O.
So be good hosts. If you were insulted or thrown up on or whatever last night, it probably wasn't the folks you'll see in Section O.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 06:18PM
[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:
The 'Gate fans who travel are, on the whole, genuinely good fans. The problem children are the ones who just saunter in to get out of the howling Hamilton wind and don't give a damn about hockey.
So be good hosts. If you were insulted or thrown up on or whatever last night, it probably wasn't the folks you'll see in Section O.[/q]
But don't hesitate to remind Section O that it sucks, because it usually does.
The 'Gate fans who travel are, on the whole, genuinely good fans. The problem children are the ones who just saunter in to get out of the howling Hamilton wind and don't give a damn about hockey.
So be good hosts. If you were insulted or thrown up on or whatever last night, it probably wasn't the folks you'll see in Section O.[/q]
But don't hesitate to remind Section O that it sucks, because it usually does.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: A-19 (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 05, 2005 06:24PM
the gate fans in section O were pretty old last time. hence, sparking the "you will die soon" cheer. sad, yes. amusing, yes.
Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 06:33PM
[Q]DisplacedCornellian Wrote:
But don't hesitate to remind Section O that it sucks, because it usually does.[/q]
Hey, that goes without saying.
But don't hesitate to remind Section O that it sucks, because it usually does.[/q]
Hey, that goes without saying.
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Re: 2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame
Posted by: ugarte (---.ny325.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2005 08:36PM
[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:I didn't think much of LeNeveu but I sure thought highly of Underhill. [/q]You seem like a very nice guy. You sound like you really know your hockey (particularly your Cornell hockey). I am still going to stop thinking of you as a goaltending scout.
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