Joe N. gets traded to Devils

Your legendary Big Red player just got traded to New Jersey in a deal that involved Jason Arnott.

whoo hoo!! Nieuwy and Brodeur on the same team??? And Judy and I have tix to see the Devils in april!!! Hot Damn! This is the best thing I've heard all day!!!

Now I have to like New Jersey? Damn.

When in April, Melissa? And got any extras?

Beeeej

Ack! Now how am I supposed to root for him?

well we got the tix in the fall to see them in DC (Judy likes the caps and i like the devils - tho we both lke the avs the best!). Seeing as it is the caps I am CERTAIN that tix will be easy to come across (tho Judy and i just got one for each of us....sorry)

oh. its the week-end after the FF.

Well, it's silly for me to go to DC to see the Devils. Maybe I'll try to get tix to see them in NJ before the season's over, though it's not like I'm a huge font of free time right now...

Beeeej

Hey, what's wrong with NJ ( not the state - what's wrong with that is pretty damn obvious)?

My thoughts exactly....

Beeeej,

I'd go see the Devils, especially if they're playing the Isles! Although, I haven't seen the Nieuwendyk trade anywhere. Anyone have a link?

HEY... there's nothing wrong with the state, which I happen to be FROM, if you didn't know. It's the team that sucks.

It's reported on the Stars' homepage, www.dallasstars.com, haven't seen it on the Devils' page or the NHL page yet.

I'll see what I can figure out on my schedule, Prong. Maybe we can get a group together.

Beeeej

The Stars' homepage is currently reading as "no data," though I do get the bottom frame to load. Bleah.

Beeeej

Hm... Devils @ Isles, Monday, April 1. Tickets available. )

Beeeej

agreed!

That would be almost as bad as watching Harvard play Dartmouth. I guess you could root for a 0-0 tie. Or a 3-3 tie with a Nieuwy hat trick

Jeffrey "Beeeej" Anbinder '94 wrote:

Hm... Devils @ Isles, Monday, April 1. Tickets available. )

There should be a law against that much sucking at one place at one time. I hope Nieuwy isn't consumed by it.

[www.dallasstars.com]

Its the Stars home page but it was at nhl.com too. Let's see how he adjusts to the Eastern conference.

The only way there could be more sucking is if someone invites the Rangers.

Parag Raje '94 wrote:

The only way there could be more sucking is if someone invites the Rangers.

And, of course, Harvard.

no one has to "like" the devils...nor should they!

Niewy's in New Jeeersseeyyy...
Niewy's in New Jeeersseeyyy...

sorry, couldn't resist

19-94, 19-94, 19,94.....

and...??

Ack! Now how am I supposed to root for him?

Welcome to my world. IMO, any team that abandoned a rabid hockey base to go to the desert, Dixie, or anywhere else where the word "puck" isn't in the local vernacular (Coyotes, Stars, Whore-icanes) is evil. And in general, I hate all teams south of St. Louis. And while I've got the soapbox all dusted off, let me say that Gary Bettman's regime has completely stripped me of any passion that I once had for the NHL.

So take it from me, it's possible to root for a specific player, but hate a team. I've been doing it for 7 years now...

So I take it you'd like to "forget" Bettman's alma mater? )

Don't forget where Bob Goodenow played in college!

So I take it you'd like to "forget" Bettman's alma mater?

No, I'd just like to forget Bettman as a fellow alumnus. I'd be interested to know how often he actually attended hockey games as a student.

I haven't had any problem rooting for the Stars with Joe. New Jersey will test me -- it would be hard to overestimate my loathing of the Devils and NJ in general. I suppose it could be worse. (Thinks about it.) Yes, if Joe were traded to a Florida or California team it would be worse.

On the upside, the Devils truly suck right now, and Joe could be a savior. Hopefully he will play out his contract and then bring it home one last time with a real team.

Good question. I'm tempted to say..."not often" because at times he shows a poor knowledge of the game itself...but maybe he doen't need that in this job!

Random good thoughts: (anything is better than studying toxicology)

1) Joe on Jersey does make it easier to have my home jersey signed by another alum in the pros (already have Dryden's, but being in carribean limits my live hockey exposure)

2) Since i do have to study, i leave this in the more than capable hands of the eLF, is Doug Stienstra still in the Jersey farm system? If so, two alums on same team at same time possibility arises.

3) Cornell hockey alums in the news right before NCAA's = good omen. just a feeling.

4) on another thread for NCAA tix there is talk of UNH fans SELLING the FF tix on ebay and uscho NOW, its yet another good omen

5) I will be back in the states for next season (well half of it)

LET"S GO RED!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt Brunke asked:

2) Since i do have to study, i leave this in the more than capable hands of the eLF, is Doug Stienstra still in the Jersey farm system? If so, two alums on same team at same time possibility arises.

Doug Stienstra is playing in England with the Bracknell Bees. He'd been Ryan Moynihan's teammate for part of the year, before Moynihan's contract was sold to another team, so if you don't just mean NHL, there already were two alums on the same team. A quick glance at names shows PC Drouin to be playing in the same league.

In these days of rapidly changing rosters, it's hard to have any loyalty to organIzations. Plus, I've always admired Lou Lamorello (sp?) and the job he's done with the Devils - like I never understood why other teams didn't draft Brian Gionta before the Devils got a steal in the 3rd round. So Good Luck Joe and Let's Go Devils. There's an article on the trade at:
[www.sportsline.com]

Wow Josh, nice research
I meant NHL, I knew that Burgoyne was playing with Knopp and maybe Oates down in the ECHL for a while.

edit note: its the main story on espn.go.com

Let me rephrase that. I like the caps because it's the only hockey I get with any consistency on TV here.

Two things:

1. As a Sharks fan, having Neiwendyk not play for the hated Stars is a good thing.

2. Brad Chartrand plays for the LA Kings nowdays. I just realized this as I was watching the Kings/Sharks game last night.

While this is a personal disruption for Joe and family, my sense is the Stars are headed into a ditch like a porky SUV on a slippery road. I find the following quote from the AP article in today's Ithaca Journal to be curious:

"He [Arnott] was the key for us,'' Stars general manager Doug Armstrong said. "He brings us some size, some strength and a different attitude at center ice.'

Any insights into the "attitude" comment? Complete article at URL below.

[wire.ap.org]

No clear idea other than this. Arnott is a more physical player than Joe N...at times he's downright nasty so maybe they were looking for his physical presence.

He also had a rather contentius contract squabble with Lamoriello a year or two ago resulting in his holding out.

Joe N will no doubt adjust easily to his new teammates, consumate pro that he is.

Thanks, Rich, for the quick response.

Well, nasty certainly isn't Joe, so, if nasty is what they wanted, I guess it was the right thing for Dallas to trade him.

I love this time of year. ECAC fans band together behind their representatives on the USCHO forum, and good god...Al and RichS just had a civil exchange.

Nice that Joe and Lou Reycroft are back with the same organization.

hey rich, it's been going on for a couple of days. I'm wondering if hell froze over while we were all up at LP, although it sure doesn't feel like it.

If Puck A., RichS., and Al all get together in the same room at Worcester without beating the crap out of each other, I'll believe it.

-- Greg

Puck A.?

Puck Avalanche. Notorious SLU booster.

I'm so tired of hearing how the Devils and NJ suck suck suck. No one who has never lived in NJ can say it sucks. It's really not that bad. Nor are the Devils. They have been in the Stanley Cup finals the last two years, winning twice in the last 6 years. Congrats to Joe, and to the Devils, and best of luck to both. I'm personally a huge Devils fan and am sad to see Arnott go, but hey, at least they both wear the same number. (I think...)

Nothing wrong with being a "notorious Slu booster".

He's infamous for being Clarkson basher and Morris slanderer. Oh, lets add BC and Jerry York and to a lesser degree, the rest of HE as objects of his "affection".

I should clarify. When I said "nasty" I mean in the hockey sense. I think of Joe N. more as a skilled, finesse player. Not to say he shies away from the physical aspect, but relatively speaking, Arnott is more of a banger and a stronger physical player. He's very tough to move in front and on the boards.

I have seen him get downright "nasty"...engaging in some stickwork...in a few heated Rangers/Devils games the past few years.

Can't speak for everyone here, Rich, but that's exactly the way I took your earlier comment.

Joe's been known to do some pretty heavy damage "in front"--with damage meaning scoring, not carving. His box lacrosse background gives him excellent stick skills for tipping/deflecting pucks.

Here's what the Devils beat writer has to say...

[www.bergenrecord.com]

hmmm...anyone want to take a small newman with them.....i can yell loudly!!

And the NY Times writer:

[www.nytimes.com]

Yup, read that one too...

Gotta love the use of the word "savvy"...seems the younger guys never are decribed that way.

I remember Dave Taylor being called that as well. These two had a lot in common regarding style of play and work ethic, etc.

[www.bergenrecord.com]

There's that word again!

nieuwy gets a goal and an assist tonite!

Susan Newman wrote:

hmmm...anyone want to take a small newman with them.....i can yell loudly!!

A small Newman that can yell loudly? Is there any other kind?

Robb ain't exactly small....

Nothing to do with the trade, but, in researching Amsterdam for a May visit, I discovered the pedestrian-only shopping street is called Nieuwendijk.

From Wednesday's NY Times:

[www.nytimes.com]

Al-

I walked through that infamous street...it was a rainy day, and needless to say I was very out of it...from all the museum visits that is. GO JN 25!!!

i will second the statement that there is nothing wrong with NJ or the Devils. Anyone else up for having a moment of silence for the 2001-2002 New York Rangers?
LETS GO DEVILS!

Don't you mean 1996-2002? *sob*

I'll sum up the problems with New Jersey by saying it smells funny there. Doesn't matter where you are, it smells funny.