Majors for piddly shit

The refs are supposed to be calling the game by the book. Any hit from behind into the boards is a major plus game or DQ. Period. It sucks when it's unintentional, especially when it costs your team a point (Moulson tonight - the major essentially led to both goals). But that's the rule and for good reason.

According to collegehockeystats.com both majors tonight were only misconducts. The USCHO recap calls Moulson's a DQ. I really wish they would learn to keep the two straight. When there's a hooking call, they don't misreport it as a tripping call (or maybe they do and I'm just not paying attention).

[www.collegehockeystats.com]

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At the game it was announced that Moulson's major was a DQ.
For the record, I saw both plays clearly and they both warranted majors and misconducts. Moulson's was worse and was an exact replica of the hit from behind he got thrown out for against Colgate last season. And quite clearly that was the turning point of the game. Cornell was superior team in every respect although that was the best Vermont team I've seen since the days of St. Louis and Perrin.

So did Moulson get a gamer? Is he suspended tonight?

I'm pretty sure they said the Vermont player got the gate.

What exactly do you think you mean by "gamer" and "got the gate?" For the umpteenth time this season, the two penalties are called:

Game Misconduct: you get 10 min in penalties added to your stats and cannot return to the current game.

Game Disqualification: you get 10 minutes added to your stats, cannot return to the current game, and are suspended for the next game*

Both of these penalties have the word "game" in them, so what is a "gamer?" In both cases, you "get the gate" from the current game. Totally useless and misleading terms.

*for your second DQ of the season, you're suspended for the next two games, 3 game suspension for the 3rd DQ, etc.

I'm positive that I heard Moulson's penalty read over the Gutterson PA as a misconduct, that's what the UVM broadcasters reported, so I believe that Moulson will play tonight.

[Q]Robb Wrote:

What exactly do you think you mean by "gamer" and "got the gate?" For the umpteenth time this season, the two penalties are called:

Game Misconduct: you get 10 min in penalties added to your stats and cannot return to the current game.

Game Disqualification: you get 10 minutes added to your stats, cannot return to the current game, and are suspended for the next game*

Both of these penalties have the word "game" in them, so what is a "gamer?" In both cases, you "get the gate" from the current game. Totally useless and misleading terms.

*for your second DQ of the season, you're suspended for the next two games, 3 game suspension for the 3rd DQ, etc.

I'm positive that I heard Moulson's penalty read over the Gutterson PA as a misconduct, that's what the UVM broadcasters reported, so I believe that Moulson will play tonight.[/q]

My bad... didn't realize that game misconduct and game DQ were two different penalties.

In any event, you answered my question.

It seems like it was a DQ--Moulson's not playing tonight.
(from Dartmouth audio feed)

"Game misconduct" and "game disqualification" are two different penalties.

I distinctly heard the Moulson penalty announced as as "game disqualification" over the radio last night. Yet it was apparently recorded as a "game misconduct" on at least one web site.

The league, and the NCAA, have a communication problem they have to solve. The penalty called by the official is apparently not being adequately communicated to the arena and the college hockey community. I don't know whether the problem originates with the officials, the scorekeepers, the announcers, or whatever, but it's got to be corrected.

"Game disqualification" needs to have a clearer name, such as "next-game disqualification." "Game DQ" by itself could be read to mean DQ for the current game or the next game. Clearly it's not clear or we'd not be having these questions pop up. You'll notice the game reports on USCHO.com or cornellbigred.com don't excactly go into detail.

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

"Game disqualification" needs to have a clearer name, such as "next-game disqualification." "Game DQ" by itself could be read to mean DQ for the current game or the next game. Clearly it's not clear or we'd not be having these questions pop up. You'll notice the game reports on USCHO.com or cornellbigred.com don't excactly go into detail. [/q]

There are two different names for two different penalties: game disqualification and game misconduct. Is it too much to ask that those who cover the game for a living know the difference?

I noticed this in The Sun this morning:

[Q] The backbreaking call came against Moulson just over a minute into the period, when he received a game misconduct and a five-minute major for hitting from behind. [/Q]

Definitely lots of confusion across the board on the names of these two penalties.

[www.cornellsun.com]

[Q]Bio '04 Wrote:

I noticed this in The Sun this morning:

The backbreaking call came against Moulson just over a minute into the period, when he received a game misconduct and a five-minute major for hitting from behind. [/Q]
Definitely lots of confusion across the board on the names of these two penalties.[/q]

Certainly. I covered the sport for a year and I didn't realize there were two penalties until just now.

From what I remember, though, I never actually heard a "game misconduct" penalty assessed. So I always thought that "game disqualification" was the NCAA equivalent of an NHL game misconduct, and it also happened to have a one-game suspension attached to it.

I guess often enough, when a ref decides something is severe enough to warrant ejection, it's also enough for a suspension. Although I'd like to see actual numbers -- which penalty is called more often, and how often does the box score correlate with whether a suspension was served.