LeNeveu Fought Tonight

In the Springfield/Lowell game, LeNeveu and Desrochers (Lowell goalie) were both thrown out for fighting.

"Leeor Shtrom, white courtesy telephone please..."

so is it better to stay in goal (Burt) or leave the crease (Strohm, and now Lenny)?
Anyone got details on the fight?

Well, when majors don't get you suspended and any penalty is going to mean the rest of the game (last two minutes) it's definitely better to go all the way and rack up as many minutes as possible.

More Detail from Lowell newspaper:
"... A full-scale brawl erupted with 1:17 to play. The melee began when Springfield forward Billy Tibbetts punched Chris McNamara off a faceoff. By the time it was over, Patrick DesRochers had raced down the ice to exchange punches with his goaltending counterpart, Springfield's David LeNeveu, while the ice was littered with bodies, sticks and helmets.

The teams combined for 162 penalty minutes, 108 of which came in the final two minutes.

"I thought it was 1976 all over again," quipped Lowell tough guy Joey Tetarenko.

DesRochers led all players with 21 penalty minutes, while teammate Brennan Evans picked up 15. For Springfield, Tibbetts (19), Nikos Tselios (19), LeNeveu (17) and Trevor Gillies (14) all reached double figures in penalty minutes. ... "

This discussion stirs a vague memory in me. A few years ago (sometime between 1999 and now), in a game at Lynah, I remember seeing our goalie leave the crease and clobber a player on the other team, and I think he might have gotten away with it, too. The thing is, I really don't remember any other details, like who we were playing, what prompted the clobbering, or even who the goalie was. I don't suppose anyone here will remember what I'm describing, but maybe someone will and can fill in the blanks for me.

Ian Burt took a few shots on opposing players whenever he played. There was a full scale brawl where Burt and Leeor Shtrom of Union fought each other. Everyone on the ice at the time, all 12 players, got kicked out. There was only a minute or 2 left in the game, so it didn't matter too much. Thats what the Burt and Strohm mentions above are referring to anyway.

When was this game?

Don't remember when it was, but it was quite a site. Union was getting frustrated and started dropping gloves. After a brief moment, Leeor skated, or rather lumbered, the length of the ice, right up to Burt, as the fight was on our side of the sheet. They started chatting with each other, then all of a sudden, Leeor was slugging away.

The Daily Sun quoted Burt, who recalled the conversation with Leeor. I thing it went something like:
Leeor: Wanna fight?
Ian: Nah, you'd probably kick my ass anyway.
Leeor: <swings>

Burt was not penalized.

The game was 12/04/1998. Here's the link to USCHO recap [www.uscollegehockey.com]
The quote was [Q]"We were just having a conversation, I just asked him how the game was," Burt said. "I asked him why he didn't jump me and he was like, 'Oh, your back was turned.' He was like, 'You want to go with me?' and I [said], 'Not really, you'll probably beat me up.' He said, 'Well, let's go then,' and throws his gloves off."[/Q]I think Burt was thrown out.



Post Edited (01-19-04 17:30)

[www.uscho.com]

the uscho link has the full quote

[www.slack.net]

tbrw?!@*&% has burt getting penalized

D! wrote:

Don't remember when it was, but it was quite a site. Union was getting frustrated and started dropping gloves. After a brief moment, Leeor skated, or rather lumbered, the length of the ice, right up to Burt, as the fight was on our side of the sheet. They started chatting with each other, then all of a sudden, Leeor was slugging away.

The Daily Sun quoted Burt, who recalled the conversation with Leeor. I thing it went something like:
Leeor: Wanna fight?
Ian: Nah, you'd probably kick my ass anyway.
Leeor: <swings>

Burt was not penalized.

Actually, Burt did get a DQ, but Leeor got two (one for leaving the crease and one for fighting), and therefore was suspended for three games.

Arthur started the ensuing announcement with "We've got a whole mess of penalties"

Here's an account of the Burt-Shtrom fight I wrote a few years back:

[Q]
Spät im Heimspiel gab es in der Cornell Zone einen Kampf, wo alle zehn Verteidiger und Stürmer an einander hielten. Es war aber keine echte Schlägerei, bis der Union Torhüter, Leor Shtrom, aus seinem Gegend kam, und ein Gespräch mit Cornell Goalie Ian Burt begann. Die Resultate dieses Gespräches war, dass die zwei sich ohne Handschuhe schlagen sollten, wofür die beiden rausgeworfen wurden. Burt kriegte die automatische Matchstrafe, aber für Shtrom gab es eine, weil er aus seinem Torraum während einem Kampf kam, und noch eine für die Schlägerei selbst. Deshalb musste er drei Spiele verpassen, weil die Suspendierungen mit jeder Matchstrafe wachsen.
[/Q]

The USCHO recap also mentions Burt's DQ:

[Q]The referees got the Big Red and Dutchmen players to skate to their respective benches, but Burt and Shtrom stayed near the Cornell goal line and appeared to be having a casual conversation. The two abruptly dropped their gloves, however, and got into a fight that earned both of them a game disqualification.[/Q]



Post Edited (01-19-04 17:48)

I have to ask, John. Why did you write an account of the game in German. Were you a sports reporter when you lived in Bern?

JH

wunderschön.

My bad,
I must've laughed so hard at the extent to which Shtrom racked up his penalties, that I forgot about Burt's.

Still funny as hell.

Jeff Hopkins '82 wrote:
I have to ask, John. Why did you write an account of the game in German. Were you a sports reporter when you lived in Bern?

I had a German girlfriend I was trying to introduce to Cornell hockey.

John T. Whelan '91 wrote:

Jeff Hopkins '82 wrote:
I have to ask, John. Why did you write an account of the game in German. Were you a sports reporter when you lived in Bern?

I had a German girlfriend I was trying to introduce to Cornell hockey.

How'd that work out?

[Q]Spät im Heimspiel gab es in der Cornell Zone einen Kampf, wo alle zehn Verteidiger und Stürmer an einander hielten. Es war aber keine echte Schlägerei, bis der Union Torhüter, Leor Shtrom, aus seinem Gegend kam, und ein Gespräch mit Cornell Goalie Ian Burt begann. Die Resultate dieses Gespräches war, dass die zwei sich ohne Handschuhe schlagen sollten, wofür die beiden rausgeworfen wurden. Burt kriegte die automatische Matchstrafe, aber für Shtrom gab es eine, weil er aus seinem Torraum während einem Kampf kam, und noch eine für die Schlägerei selbst. Deshalb musste er drei Spiele verpassen, weil die Suspendierungen mit jeder Matchstrafe wachsen. [/Q]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

No, really, I *couldn't* have.

Anyone else remember Arthur's quote actually being "We have a SLEW of penalties," or is the legend just growing with time?

One of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:

John T. Whelan '91 wrote:
I had a German girlfriend I was trying to introduce to Cornell hockey.

How'd that work out?

She was enjoying the hockey stories, but the girlfriend part didn't work out, so she never made it to a game.

LEEEEOOOOOOOOOORR

LEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRR



couldnt resist. funny b/c that fight came up in conversation at the onion game this weekend

John T. Whelan '91 wrote:
Actually, Burt did get a DQ, but Leeor got two (one for leaving the crease and one for fighting), and therefore was suspended for three games.

...and then the Union coach benched him for a fourth.

Beeeej

Late in the heimspiel there was a fight in the Cornell zone, where all ten defenders and stuermer held each other on. It was however no genuine fight, until the union goal keeper, came Leor Shtrom, from its area, and a discussion with Cornell Goalie Ian Burt began. The results of this discussion it was that the two should strike themselves without gloves, for which the two were eliminated. Burt kriegte the automatic match punishment, but for Shtrom there was one, because he came from his torraum during a fight, and still one for the fight. Therefore it had to miss three plays, because the suspending with each match punishment grew.

Gotta love on-line translation...

Jim Hyla '67 wrote:

The game was 12/04/1998...

And what a wonderful 21st birthday present a brawl was for me!

[q]Anyone else remember Arthur's quote actually being "We have a SLEW of penalties," or is the legend just growing with time?[/q]

Arthur remembers Arthur's quote as being "We got a whole mess of penalties."

[Q]Arthur remembers Arthur's quote as being "We got a whole mess of penalties."[/Q]But is Arthur right?

Ha ha, I stand corrected! (feel free to use "slew" in future calls)

[q] But is Arthur right? [/q]
Arthur is right.