NCAA Tournament 2024

Since I don't want to have to dig through it in the "Opponents and Others" thread, I'm starting a thread for non-Cornell discussion of this year's NCAAs.

I thought it was interesting that Michigan Tech is the #16 seed and looked back to see when else it's happened that #16 has not been from Atlantic Hockey, College Hockey America, or the MAAC.

2017 Michigan Tech (WCHA) [www.collegehockeynews.com]
2021* Notre Dame (Big T7n) [www.collegehockeynews.com]
2024 Michigan Tech (CCHA) [www.collegehockeynews.com]

So I guess technically we can say this is the first time #16 has come from the CCHA.

I am definitely hoping for a "Michigan Tech homer call" moment on Friday.

Today's Games (all times ET):

02:00 Denver vs UMass
04:00 BU vs RIT
05:30 Cornell vs Maine
07:30 Minnesota vs UNO

Trotsky
Today's Games (all times ET):

02:00 Denver vs UMass
04:00 BU vs RIT
05:30 Cornell vs Maine
07:30 Minnesota vs UNO

I still hate that the regionals start on Thursday now.

I think the times are off for the games in SD those are CT not ET

No goals for anyone but a strong first period for UMass. Denver more dynamic but UMass a steadier drip drip drip of pressure. Neither goalie had to do anything heroic afaict.

Thats Denvers game. Not really control play but so quick on mistakes for goals.

1-1 after 2. Both goals from mucking around the crease on rebounds.

ugarte
1-1 after 2. Both goals from mucking around the crease on rebounds.

This is the type of game UMASS was hoping for. I'd give them the edge in the 3rd.

UMass PP with 6:54 left, still tied at 1.

ugarte
UMass PP with 6:54 left, still tied at 1.

heading to OT. nobody really getting good chances. this is going to end ugly for someone.

Fasc and Furious still hasn't cut over to a pregame, I guess we're delayed (60 mins?) by game 1.

ugarte

ugarte
UMass PP with 6:54 left, still tied at 1.

heading to OT. nobody really getting good chances. this is going to end ugly for someone.

UMass giveaway right in front of the net almost cost them but we're 15 minutes into OT and still going.

Anyone know how long they leave between end of game 1 and start of our game? It's for to be at least 40 minutes minimum, but is it an hour usually?

abmarks
Anyone know how long they leave between end of game 1 and start of our game? It's for to be at least 40 minutes minimum, but is it an hour usually?

ESPN on-air crew quoted 1 hour.

abmarks
Anyone know how long they leave between end of game 1 and start of our game? It's for to be at least 40 minutes minimum, but is it an hour usually?

In Lake Placid it was 60.

Headed to 2OT. Gotta win to take advantage of tired legs... that never seem demonstrably tired in the playoffs the next day tbh, probably due to adrenaline.

Based on the intermission look-in at BU-RIT, BU might score 10.

BU up on RIT 2-0, 13 minutes in. Two quick ones.

Denver wins in 2 OT. Should be a 7 ET start for the Cornell/Maine game

Holy cow RIT cuts it to 3-2, 4:39 left in the second.

the 4th BU goal was so patient and pretty

ugarte
Holy cow RIT cuts it to 3-2, 4:39 left in the second.

Ugh. BU comes right back. 4-2, 3 mins left in second.

jeff '84

ugarte
Holy cow RIT cuts it to 3-2, 4:39 left in the second.

Ugh. BU comes right back. 4-2, 3 mins left in second.

One moment of lack of hustle from an RIT forward.

ugarte
the 4th BU goal was so patient and pretty

I don't know what the one RIT backchecker was doing on that one. He was kind of coasting behind Celebrini instead of actively going after him. Obviously BU is the quicker team but I found that odd

We're at the presumptive pregame mark, but Goebbels's Gerbils are still happily burbling their Nazi inanities.

Umass was the better team there.

But just as I say that they blow the swastika on the Reichstag, and the Voice of Treason gives way to, ironically, Jason Weinstein.

Maine starting their senior goalie, not their hot frosh with better stats, who has played the last 9.

Wallace flip flops back in for Mosko.

Trotsky
Maine starting their senior goalie, not their hot frosh with better stats, who has played the last 9.

Word is he’s sick.

1-1 between BC and Michigan Tech in the 1st. Michigan Tech with one of the best PK's I've seen this year with a SHG included

Iceberg
1-1 between BC and Michigan Tech in the 1st. Michigan Tech with one of the best PK's I've seen this year with a SHG included

MTU won the opening draw and had a great scoring opportunity then BC took the puck up ice and scored on their first possession.

Tied late 1st

Jack Malone has the primary assists on BC's 2nd and 3rd goals. BC leading 3-1 almost halfway through the third.

Some nasty stuff going on in BC game, with a nasty hit to the head by a Tech player on a BC player, followed by the closest you'll see to a fight in college hockey. BC ahead 5-1 midway through the third period.

sah67
Jack Malone has the primary assists on BC's 2nd and 3rd goals. BC leading 3-1 almost halfway through the third.

He has looked quite good this game

sah67
Jack Malone has the primary assists on BC's 2nd and 3rd goals. BC leading 3-1 almost halfway through the third.

It was briefly 4-1 when a BC dump into the zone caromed off a ref directly into the Tech net as the Tech goalie was starting to head for the wall where the puck should've been. Apparently - and I didn't know this - a goal being scored directly off a ref is the one time when an exception can be made to the "officials are part of the playing surface" rule, so they waved off the goal, and to BC's credit they didn't protest.

Of course they then scored another fourth goal shortly thereafter, and a 6-1 final means it wouldn't have mattered much anyway.

Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.

Q goes up early against Bucky Badger, 1-0

imafrshmn
Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.

1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.

dbilmes
Some nasty stuff going on in BC game, with a nasty hit to the head by a Tech player on a BC player, followed by the closest you'll see to a fight in college hockey.

The closest now. The closest I've seen to a fight in college hockey was a full-on line brawl at Matthews in the late 80s. I don't recall the opponent. It was gloves dropped, helmets off, all five pairs. The goalies demurred.

IINM all ten were tossed and both coaches got suspended.

Alaska Arizona State earlier this month. A full on brawl.

ugarte

imafrshmn
Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.

1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.

Switched back to see it's 1-1.

Quinnipiac is skating circles around Wisconsin and is holding a 1-0 lead after 1.

ugarte

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imafrshmn
Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.

1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.

Switched back to see it's 1-1.

MSU wins a draw and blasts a shot from the blueline to take a 2-1 lead.

arugula
Alaska Arizona State earlier this month. A full on brawl.

I saw that box. More penalty minutes than the Cornell-Union game that included the height of stupidity established by Leeor Shtrom (And then- And THEN- ).

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imafrshmn
Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.

1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.

Switched back to see it's 1-1.

MSU wins a draw and blasts a shot from the blueline to take a 2-1 lead.

WMU gets a PPG and then a minute or so later scores again to go up 3-2. ~5:00 left in the second period.

Wisco ties up Q just after Q power play expires.

Edit: Make it 2-1 Wisco.

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imafrshmn
Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.

1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.

Switched back to see it's 1-1.

MSU wins a draw and blasts a shot from the blueline to take a 2-1 lead.

WMU gets a PPG and then a minute or so later scores again to go up 3-2. ~5:00 left in the second period.

WMU bangs one in after winning an offensive zone draw to go up 4-2 and they take that lead into the second intermission.

shocked to see that wisconsin has the lead after that first period.

Announcers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.

Beeeej
Announcers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.

*the world's longest sigh*

meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard

ugarte

Beeeej
Announcers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.

*the world's longest sigh*

meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard

And that PP looked like crap.

ugarte

Beeeej
Announcers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.

*the world's longest sigh*

meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard

Does make you wonder what would have happened if the Ivy allowed grad transfers. We’d probably have both on our team this season. On the other hand, Castagna would have probably played a year of junior hockey instead of enrolling as a true freshman.

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte

Beeeej
Announcers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.

*the world's longest sigh*

meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard

And that PP looked like crap.

Next PP looked better, though still fruitless. Shortly after the PP, though, Q won a draw clean, got a shot off, and then a guy with an eyechart on his back potted the rebound with ~1:30 left in the second. 2-2 after 2.

And 2-2 after 2 in Providence.

They said it was Tupker who won the draw. Grrrr.

MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.

Jeff Hopkins '82
MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.

Tough break for WMU, the played a smart possession game pinned in the MSU end so the goalie couldn’t leave until just over a minute remained. One big transition play and Sparty was able to tie it.

RichH

Jeff Hopkins '82
MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.

Tough break for WMU, the played a smart possession game pinned in the MSU end so the goalie couldn’t leave until just over a minute remained. One big transition play and Sparty was able to tie it.

And somehow left a guy WIDE open in front of the net on a fairly innocuous zone entry

Q-Bucky in OT is such a win-win for me. Either the ECAC wins or Q loses. Happy either way.

Robb
Q-Bucky in OT is such a win-win for me. Either the ECAC wins or Q loses. Happy either way.

I’d call it a lose-lose. Either qpac wins or everyone says our conference sucks. Oh well. Go Wisconsin

CU2007

RichH

Jeff Hopkins '82
MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.

Tough break for WMU, the played a smart possession game pinned in the MSU end so the goalie couldn’t leave until just over a minute remained. One big transition play and Sparty was able to tie it.

And somehow left a guy WIDE open in front of the net on a fairly innocuous zone entry

That’s what I found astonishing

Wisconsin is a solid defensive team with some strong players, but now they have a PK in overtime

Bye bye Bucky.

Great game, I’m satisfied with a Q win.

Well, the ECAC team won!!

chimpfood
Great game, I’m satisfied with a Q win.

They're gonna lose to BC anyway. So I'm OK with the ECAC getting another win.

I would love for them to upset BC.

chimpfood
Great game, I’m satisfied with a Q win.

Q hit another post then Wisconsin fell asleep on a diagonal pass from blueline to blueline, easy zone entry, centered to a guy skating in on the goalie and someone nominated for the Richter got pantsed and sent home.

ugarte
Q hit another post then Wisconsin fell asleep on a diagonal pass from blueline to blueline, easy zone entry, centered to a guy skating in on the goalie and someone nominated for the Richter got pantsed and sent home.

They got caught a bad change and the game is over just like that. Q/BC should be a good one

Still crazy to me how bad Shane got shafted on the richter. Having Mbereko over him is heinous.

ER
I would love for them to upset BC.

You want to dream? Us versus Q in the national final.

I would love to face Michigan. Little household rivalry.

So far the only upsets in the tournament are by the ECAC schools.

Coincidence? Or a flaw in the pairwise?

ER
I would love for them to upset BC.

I hate having to root for BC.

Jeff Hopkins '82

ER
I would love for them to upset BC.

You want to dream? Us versus Q in the national final.

Nightmare. Please no.

Quinnipiac winning would typically really blow. Especially since I was really hoping BC got upset, but now I’ll have to root for them next round. Despite all this, the damage was already done when Q won last year. Can’t go back on that now. Diminishing marginal pain from Q winning again.

pjd8

arugula
Alaska Arizona State earlier this month. A full on brawl.

I saw that box. More penalty minutes than the Cornell-Union game that included the height of stupidity established by Leeor Shtrom (And then- And THEN- ).

The video is astonishing. Disgraceful.

I’m confused. Wasn’t there all this talk about demand for the Maryland Heights regional greatly outstripping the supply (2,500 seats)? But 2/3 of the seats are empty for UMich-NoDak.

BearLover
I’m confused. Wasn’t there all this talk about demand for the Maryland Heights regional greatly outstripping the supply (2,500 seats)? But 2/3 of the seats are empty for UMich-NoDak.

There is zero doubt NoDak fans would fill any building there is - even on the moon. Most likely it was just impossible logistically to actually get the tickets.

That is a terrible font ESPN is using for the clock.

Ian Shane goes for career win # 50 tomorrow.

           W  L  T
Dryden    78  4  1
Scrivens  65 37 13
McKee     65 24 13
Galajda   60 14  9
Iles      58 42 17
Cropper   51  5  0
Shane     49 20 10

Brian Cropper at 51-5-0 is unreal. Then you look at Ken Dryden’s record….

Trotsky
Ian Shane goes for career win # 50 tomorrow.

           W  L  T
Dryden    78  4  1
Scrivens  65 37 13
McKee     65 24 13
Galajda   60 14  9
Iles      58 42 17
Cropper   51  5  0
Shane     49 20 10

seeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.

upprdeck
seeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.

Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.

jtwcornell91
That is a terrible font ESPN is using for the clock.

There’s something weird about the clock. In the first game in Missouri, you could see it shaking every so often. I think the network pointed a camera at the video-board clock, like they used to do in the 80s. That’s one way to ensure your broadcast graphic is synced with the game clock.

chimpfood
Still crazy to me how bad Shane got shafted on the richter. Having Mbereko over him is heinous.

What’s the richter? You mean the National Ken Dryden award? That’s what it should be called.

RichH

chimpfood
Still crazy to me how bad Shane got shafted on the richter. Having Mbereko over him is heinous.

What’s the richter? You mean the National Ken Dryden award? That’s what it should be called.

Maybe it's the Richter scale which measures how much the clock is shaking.

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Flaw in Pairwise. Late start for Ivy League reduces chance for quality wins in whole ECAC. And the results of early Ivy non-conference games often reflect the 3-week disparity in experience for those teams. Thus, every Ivy team ends up clawing their way up from #42 in Pairwise and every loss within the league is by definition a terrible loss. That's why a fast Ivy start - like Cornell's 4-0 - is critical to getting into the Top 15.

But that still doesn't excuse lossess to Harvard, Princeton, Colgate...... that's due to Cornell's preferred style of play. Increased emphasis on defense & shot-blocking - at the expense of letting your freshmen develop on offense - keeps games low-scoring and close. Which is a huge benefit aganist teams that might be better than you (e.g. 7-1-2 vs. ranked teams). But might not be so great when playing an inferior opponent ranked #42 in Pairwise.....

I can't excuse them for their wins against BU, Quinnipiac, and Maine. Inexpiable.

Trotsky
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Today is my birthday.

Not that anyone should care, except that... the only other time Cornell has ever played a game on my birthday was...

... the 2003 quarterfinal win over BC.

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Trotsky
This is the day
Our life will surely change

This is the day
When things fall into place

Today is my birthday.

Not that anyone should care, except that... the only other time Cornell has ever played a game on my birthday was...

... the 2003 quarterfinal win over BC.

We all care! Happy Birthday and let's hope history repeats itself.

BearLover

upprdeck
seeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.

Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.

Dryden and Cropper only played varsity for three years, too. I saw one freshmen game where Ken played forward. It was abundantly clear why he was a goalie!

George64

BearLover

upprdeck
seeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.

Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.

Dryden and Cropper only played varsity for three years, too. I saw one freshmen game where Ken played forward. It was abundantly clear why he was a goalie!

Think Dryden was a skater in the varsity-freshman game. Ned didn't want to discourage his varsity.

Al DeFlorio

George64

BearLover

upprdeck
seeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.

Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.

Dryden and Cropper only played varsity for three years, too. I saw one freshmen game where Ken played forward. It was abundantly clear why he was a goalie!

Think Dryden was a skater in the varsity-freshman game. Ned didn't want to discourage his varsity.

RPI's freshmen defeated the varsity that year, and the varsity went on to a 3-19 record with no wins and many drubbings from D-I schools. Ned was indeed wise especially considering the RPI game vs Cornell was only 5-2. [sports-chronicles.com] In case anyone looks, Penn was a club team that year.

Today is a great day to break a curse. Set your altars, light your candles, do whatever rituals you need to do to get right. Let's do this!

For the ticket counters out there: reported attendance for yesterday's Missouri regional games (MSU-WMU,NoDak-UMich) was a COMBINED 3148, which would be about 63% of capacity).

imafrshmn
For the ticket counters out there: reported attendance for yesterday's Missouri regional games (MSU-WMU,NoDak-UMich) was a COMBINED 3148, which would be about 63% of capacity).

So what happened to the other 37% of tickets? Weren’t tickets going for $2000?

BearLover

imafrshmn
For the ticket counters out there: reported attendance for yesterday's Missouri regional games (MSU-WMU,NoDak-UMich) was a COMBINED 3148, which would be about 63% of capacity).

So what happened to the other 37% of tickets? Weren’t tickets going for $2000?

Ok i made a mistake in interpretation. 3148 was the official capacity for the venue as they were able to add additional seating for this event. So this was in fact a "sellout" in ticketing terms. But each school was only allotted 400 tickets... it's possible that many of the remaining 1548 seats were bought up by scalpers hoping to capitalize on the high demand, but maybe they miscalculated on that front...
The upshot was a rink that was about 50% full for both games, so certainly a raw deal for these teams and their fans.

dbilmes

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Trotsky
This is the day
Our life will surely change

This is the day
When things fall into place

Today is my birthday.

Not that anyone should care, except that... the only other time Cornell has ever played a game on my birthday was...

... the 2003 quarterfinal win over BC.

We all care! Happy Birthday and let's hope history repeats itself.

I'll take birthday luck as another weapon in the arsenal. Happy, happy birthday!