Lake Placid-2024

Anyone know where the Cornell fan section will be at Lake Placid this year?

pmbblblaw
Anyone know where the Cornell fan section will be at Lake Placid this year?

Probably hasn't been assigned yet.

Jeff Hopkins '82

pmbblblaw
Anyone know where the Cornell fan section will be at Lake Placid this year?

Probably hasn't been assigned yet.

They used to assign the four corners before the quarterfinals, but that was back when they had paper tickets, since the winners of the quarterfinal series could take the tickets with them.

Holy hell, the 2024 ECAC Lake Placid emblem does not look like shit.



This is the first design element created since 1989 that I can remember that doesn't look it was created by and for imbeciles.

pmbblblaw
Anyone know where the Cornell fan section will be at Lake Placid this year?

Idk…. But I’ll be there

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jtwcornell91

Jeff Hopkins '82

pmbblblaw
Anyone know where the Cornell fan section will be at Lake Placid this year?

Probably hasn't been assigned yet.

They used to assign the four corners before the quarterfinals, but that was back when they had paper tickets, since the winners of the quarterfinal series could take the tickets with them.

Last year the ticket office had a code available after the game that allowed us to purchase tickets in the Cornell section, and at a small discount. When I asked about that code tonight they said they did not have it yet, but would publish it and probably send it out via email as soon as they have it.

I can't even find a spot on the Lake Placid website to enter a code. I think last year it was "Cornell", or something equally hard to guess. If someone figures out where on the website to enter a code before seat selection, please post here.

pmbblblaw
Anyone know where the Cornell fan section will be at Lake Placid this year?

Be nice to know out which goal Cornell attacks first and third in case you want your seats there (or the goal Cornell defends if you prefer defense). We will be the home team / white sweaters for the Friday game and if we advance, away team / red sweaters Saturday if Quinnipiac also advances. [edit add:] Based on last year, the home team attacks the non-Zamboni end goal twice (sections 1 /26).

The chart is the Lake Placid Herb Brooks Arena (the 7700-seat big one) seating chart. The cutout at left is the Zamboni door (sections 13/14) and that is at the back end of the rink if you visualize the opposite end (sections 1/26) as the end closer to Main Street and Mirror Lake. The bottom would be the side nearest the high school/skating oval. (The TV cameras shoot toward the benches.)

On the arena site for buying tickets, it shows the majority of tickets are taken or sold but I think that means they may have been set aside. I don't recall a time when you couldn't get tickets. And a lot of fans will leave after game one (Q vs. SLU).

FWIW, I bought tix in section 22. But I fully expect to sit in or near the Cornell section, wherever it is.

Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

Beeeej
Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

Nicely noticed, Beeej.

Trotsky

Beeeej
Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

Nicely noticed, Beeej.

TBRW is missing Yale in 1986, Greg.

andyw2100

Trotsky

Beeeej
Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

Nicely noticed, Beeej.

TBRW is missing Yale in 1986, Greg.

1985 has 5 teams. Probably the source of the 1986 error.

RichH

andyw2100

Trotsky

Beeeej
Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

Nicely noticed, Beeej.

TBRW is missing Yale in 1986, Greg.

1985 has 5 teams. Probably the source of the 1986 error.

Fixed, thank you.

Other fun stuff: this will be Cornell's 40th ECAC F4. (Personally, it will be Anne and my 25th, which would make us the 4th most successful school despite missing the first 20 seasons.)

Appearances by decade:

60s  4 (of 8)
70s  9
80s  5
90s  5
00s  8
10s  7
20s  2 (of 3)

Beeeej
Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

I was going to say that Dartmouth's fault for making it less frequently, but the most common 3-of-4 for this 4 appears to be DC/QU/SLU in 2007 and 2016, so it's on us.

French Rage

Beeeej
Incidentally, this particular combination of four teams has never before been in the ECAC semis, Lake Placid or not. Q’s history in the conference may be relatively brief, but it’s also already twenty years.

I was going to say that Dartmouth's fault for making it less frequently, but the most common 3-of-4 for this 4 appears to be DC/QU/SLU in 2007 and 2016, so it's on us.

I am only pleased when it's us, Clarkson, and 2 of Harvard, SLU, or RPI.

This year's combo is unapproved, but I'll allow it if we win it.

My order of precedence:

 0. Cornell
 1. Clarkson
 2. Harvard (I know, sue me)
 3. St. Lawrence
 4. RPI
 5. Dartmouth
 5. Princeton
 5. Yale
 5. Colgate
 5. Brown
10. Union
11. Quinnipiac

Trotsky
My order of precedence:

 0. Cornell
 1. Clarkson
 2. Harvard (I know, sue me)
 3. St. Lawrence
 4. RPI
 5. Dartmouth
 5. Princeton
 5. Yale
 5. Colgate
 5. Brown
10. Union
11. Quinnipiac

I mostly agree, but I hate seeing Princeton, as they have this weird tendency to win in their rare appearances.

Trotsky
My order of precedence:

 0. Cornell
 1. Clarkson
 2. Harvard (I know, sue me)
 3. St. Lawrence
 4. RPI
 5. Dartmouth
 5. Princeton
 5. Yale
 5. Colgate
 5. Brown
10. Union
11. Quinnipiac

I miss UVM, who would probably be 4.5 on that list.

jtwcornell91
I miss UVM, who would probably be 4.5 on that list.

I sometimes wonder how things would have been for UVM if it stayed. It doesn’t seem like the jump to Hockey East worked out for the program.

JasonN95

jtwcornell91
I miss UVM, who would probably be 4.5 on that list.

I sometimes wonder how things would have been for UVM if it stayed. It doesn’t seem like the jump to Hockey East worked out for the program.

Uh-oh, Justin Milo's dad is gonna log on and give ya what fer!

jtwcornell91

Trotsky
My order of precedence:

 0. Cornell
 1. Clarkson
 2. Harvard (I know, sue me)
 3. St. Lawrence
 4. RPI
 5. Dartmouth
 5. Princeton
 5. Yale
 5. Colgate
 5. Brown
10. Union
11. Quinnipiac

I miss UVM, who would probably be 4.5 on that list.

Same here. For that matter:

 0. Cornell
 1. Screw BU
 2. Clarkson
 3. Harvard too
 4. St. Lawrence
 5. RPI
 6. BC
 7. Vermont
 8. Providence
 8. Dartmouth
 8. Northeastern
 8. Princeton
 8. New Hampshire
 8. Yale
 8. Maine
 8. Colgate
 8. Army
 8. Brown
18. Union
19. Quinnipiac

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

ugarte

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

newco113

ugarte

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

Not to mention the the bulk of the locals of Lake Placid & Saranac Lake area typically throw their support to the North Country teams, whichever one is there. They may not be boisterous or loud, but they like having tournaments like this there and they will pull for the region.

Schools by Section: 3: St Lawrence University | (2 Band) – 11: Cornell | (12 Band) – 16: Dartmouth | (15 Band) – 24: Quinnipiac | (25 Band)
[lakeplacidolympiccenter.com]

Section 11 tickets are not available online at the Lake Placid Brooks Arena ticket office. I called the arena and the ticket rep said I needed to get Section 11 tix from the Cornell ticket office. I just called the Cornell ticket office; it is closed, only open Tuesday-Friday. Hmmm... how to get section 11 tickets today??? Am I missing something?

cquinn
Schools by Section: 3: St Lawrence University | (2 Band) – 11: Cornell | (12 Band) – 16: Dartmouth | (15 Band) – 24: Quinnipiac | (25 Band)
[lakeplacidolympiccenter.com]

SLU Band, since when? They don't even have a band when they play at home.

newco113

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

The last time SLU was in Lake Placid, I recall there being a lot of their supporters in attendance, which would make sense given the proximity to Canton and Lake Placid being in the North Country

pmbblblaw
Section 11 tickets are not available online at the Lake Placid Brooks Arena ticket office. I called the arena and the ticket rep said I needed to get Section 11 tix from the Cornell ticket office. I just called the Cornell ticket office; it is closed, only open Tuesday-Friday. Hmmm... how to get section 11 tickets today??? Am I missing something?

BigRedTix says:

"MEN'S HOCKEY - ECAC CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT INFORMATION WILL BE RELEASED BY 8PM ON MONDAY, MARCH 18TH."

will we be able to get tix online? If so, at what website? Cornell ticket office or Brooks Arena? will the entire section be available? is it general admission or assigned seating? thanks.

yeah.. the AD does a great job of running this simple stuff.

In the old days they needed to wait for the paper tickets to show up to sell them.

did STH get an email?

if the Cornell section is not virtual that could be the hold up.. But still no reason that until 8pm people have no idea whats going on.

JasonN95

jtwcornell91
I miss UVM, who would probably be 4.5 on that list.

I sometimes wonder how things would have been for UVM if it stayed. It doesn’t seem like the jump to Hockey East worked out for the program.

They were 60 seconds from a national championshipin the Frozen Four in 2009. (Apparently I've swapped UVM and Miami--and presumably Milo and Brent Brekke--in my memory of that tournament.)

pmbblblaw
will we be able to get tix online? If so, at what website? Cornell ticket office or Brooks Arena? will the entire section be available? is it general admission or assigned seating? thanks.

Last year as soon as the game ended a code was available (possibly on the scoreboard, but definitely, at a minimum, at the ticket office) that allowed us to purchase online, in the Cornell section, and at a small (perhaps $5 per ticket?) discount. When I asked about a code at the ticket office after the game on Saturday night I was told they did not have the info from Lake Placid yet.

I expect there will be a code, or a specific URL.

The ECAC just announced that the tournament will be staying in Lake Placid for the next two years.

For some perspective, horrors:

Neither Q, SLU, nor Dartmouth have anything on their website about tickets, just a link to the LP site.

Its almost like using virtual tickets has made this harder not easier?

in the way back machine they used to send out tickets ahead of time to the schools to sell once they won.

Has it gotten harder with tech running the show?

Jim Hyla
For some perspective, horrors:

Neither Q, SLU, nor Dartmouth have anything on their website about tickets, just a link to the LP site.

Yup, we are all in a panic about it too. I'm getting flooded with messages from friends and fellow fans about the ticket info and we know we are in Section 3. Just nothing yet on how to purchase tickets in that section. So, you're not alone, but it's so frustrating!

newco113

Jim Hyla
For some perspective, horrors:

Neither Q, SLU, nor Dartmouth have anything on their website about tickets, just a link to the LP site.

Yup, we are all in a panic about it too. I'm getting flooded with messages from friends and fellow fans about the ticket info and we know we are in Section 3. Just nothing yet on how to purchase tickets in that section. So, you're not alone, but it's so frustrating!

A reminder that this is a new league commissioner going through this for the first time. It’s seeming like his administration has been caught flat-footed with the planning/timing. Or maybe it’s ORDA.

[ecachockey.com]

It’s going to be hard not to reflexively refer to Shagwell going forward.

pmbblblaw
Section 11 tickets are not available online at the Lake Placid Brooks Arena ticket office. I called the arena and the ticket rep said I needed to get Section 11 tix from the Cornell ticket office. I just called the Cornell ticket office; it is closed, only open Tuesday-Friday. Hmmm... how to get section 11 tickets today??? Am I missing something?

Tickets.

newco113

ugarte

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

I take back nothing. The main lesson I have learned in life is that being right is the least important thing to be.

ugarte

newco113

ugarte

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

I take back nothing. The main lesson I have learned in life is that being right is the least important thing to be.

I imagine townies from St Lawrence WILL travel this weekend, but unfortunately for their hockey team, many students will still be on spring break...

CORNELL SECTION TICKETS HERE.

I just tried the password CORNELL24 and it worked, the section opened.

Happy searching.

St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

billhoward
With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

Darkness is a CRT plot.

Jim Hyla
CORNELL SECTION TICKETS HERE.

I just tried the password CORNELL24 and it worked, the section opened.

Happy searching.

Any one have any idea what may be going on in rows G, H, I in Section 11? Those seats are blocked. They aren't blocked for the band, supposedly, because the band is supposed to be in Section 12.

andyw2100

Jim Hyla
CORNELL SECTION TICKETS HERE.

I just tried the password CORNELL24 and it worked, the section opened.

Happy searching.

Any one have any idea what may be going on in rows G, H, I in Section 11? Those seats are blocked. They aren't blocked for the band, supposedly, because the band is supposed to be in Section 12.

Maybe player’s family?

fastforward

andyw2100

Jim Hyla
CORNELL SECTION TICKETS HERE.

I just tried the password CORNELL24 and it worked, the section opened.

Happy searching.

Any one have any idea what may be going on in rows G, H, I in Section 11? Those seats are blocked. They aren't blocked for the band, supposedly, because the band is supposed to be in Section 12.

Maybe player’s family?

That's a great guess! Thanks!

I think I'll try to "crack" the very complicated password code for the other teams and see if similar seats are blocked in those sections.

Edit: Code cracked. All the team sections have those rows blocked. SLU has a few purchased already, which makes me think perhaps parents / player guests are also being given a code that opens up those seats. Took a shot at cracking those codes but failed.

We are now in official win and stay in mode. for the next 1 - 6 games.

billhoward
St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

In 2000, it was us, Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Colgate, which seems just about optimal. Unfortunately for the attendance, Clarkson lost to RPI in the play-in Thursday night.

I don't have the attendance numbers handy.

newco113

ugarte

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

This is simply not true. I've been to every Lake Placid ECACs and the SLU presence is never significant. They are great fans and they travel well, but their pool is just too small. Every SLU fan is an outstanding fan, and Canton gives it everything they have, and I have spent many an evening and many a beer hanging out with them, but they do not have numbers.

Heavy: Cornell, Clarkson, extremely annoyingly Quinnipiac, once upon a time Vermont

Medium: Union, RPI

Small: Colgate, St. Lawrence, Dartmouth

Nearly Zero: Brown, Princeton, Yale even when they were good, Harvard

jtwcornell91

billhoward
St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

In 2000, it was us, Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Colgate, which seems just about optimal. Unfortunately for the attendance, Clarkson lost to RPI in the play-in Thursday night.

I don't have the attendance numbers handy.

Clarkson lost to Cornell in that PIG.

Chris '03

jtwcornell91

billhoward
St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

In 2000, it was us, Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Colgate, which seems just about optimal. Unfortunately for the attendance, Clarkson lost to RPI in the play-in Thursday night.

I don't have the attendance numbers handy.

Clarkson lost to Cornell in that PIG.

I must have mixed together memories of 2000 and 2002. Now that you mention it, I remember now that the 4th and 5th seeds got the same corner of the rink for the last two days of the tournament (since only one of them would still be there), and we ended up with annoyed Clarkson fans scattered throughout the Cornell section for the semis and consolation. (2000 was the year of the double-OT loss to SLU and the abysmal shutout by Colgate in the consy.)

That's one of the dumbest things in Lake Placid, and I wish fans would just re-sort themselves. Every year, there are X sections with y pockets and Y sections with x pockets, and it doesn't take Georg Cantor to figure out what to do.

Chris '03

jtwcornell91

billhoward
St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

In 2000, it was us, Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Colgate, which seems just about optimal. Unfortunately for the attendance, Clarkson lost to RPI in the play-in Thursday night.

I don't have the attendance numbers handy.

Clarkson lost to Cornell in that PIG.

Whew! I think that I would have remembered if RPI had ever been at LP for the ECAC tourney since it returned there. It this stage of my life, I am concerned about signs of old age.

Trotsky

newco113

ugarte

BlueSky

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

This is simply not true. I've been to every Lake Placid ECACs and the SLU presence is never significant. They are great fans and they travel well, but their pool is just too small. Every SLU fan is an outstanding fan, and Canton gives it everything they have, and I have spent many an evening and many a beer hanging out with them, but they do not have numbers.

Heavy: Cornell, Clarkson, extremely annoyingly Quinnipiac, once upon a time Vermont

Medium: Union, RPI

Small: Colgate, St. Lawrence, Dartmouth

Nearly Zero: Brown, Princeton, Yale even when they were good, Harvard

I really don't mean to be rude, but if you actually think that Quinnipiac has a heavy travel presence in Lake Placid and that Union or RPI bring more fans than SLU then you just plain and simply do not know what you are talking about. I've been going to each and every ECAC tournament since the first go around in Lake Placid back in the 90's, the Atlantic City days, the Albany days etc and SLU and Clarkson and Cornell are the big draws to Lake Placid. Always have been. SLU has made it twice to Lake Placid (since its return) back in 2015 and 2016 and it was partisan, significantly partisan SLU fans compared to the other teams. There were even articles in the local papers commenting on "the significantly partisan SLU turnout" at the time. When SLU/Clarkson met in the Championship game back in 1999 it was a complete sellout (8,200) and about a 50/50 split between fans. It's always been this way and it's pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought it was) that the North Country teams are the big draws for Placid. That's why there have been numerous non-conference games played between SLU and Clarkson at Lake Placid. Not SLU or Clarkson vs Quinnipiac or Union or RPI, SLU vs. Clarkson because that is the big draw there. I don't know what else to say other than that.

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Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

This is simply not true. I've been to every Lake Placid ECACs and the SLU presence is never significant. They are great fans and they travel well, but their pool is just too small. Every SLU fan is an outstanding fan, and Canton gives it everything they have, and I have spent many an evening and many a beer hanging out with them, but they do not have numbers.

Heavy: Cornell, Clarkson, extremely annoyingly Quinnipiac, once upon a time Vermont

Medium: Union, RPI

Small: Colgate, St. Lawrence, Dartmouth

Nearly Zero: Brown, Princeton, Yale even when they were good, Harvard

I really don't mean to be rude, but if you actually think that Quinnipiac has a heavy travel presence in Lake Placid and that Union or RPI bring more fans than SLU then you just plain and simply do not know what you are talking about. I've been going to each and every ECAC tournament since the first go around in Lake Placid back in the 90's, the Atlantic City days, the Albany days etc and SLU and Clarkson and Cornell are the big draws to Lake Placid. Always have been. SLU has made it twice to Lake Placid (since its return) back in 2015 and 2016 and it was partisan, significantly partisan SLU fans compared to the other teams. There were even articles in the local papers commenting on "the significantly partisan SLU turnout" at the time. When SLU/Clarkson met in the Championship game back in 1999 it was a complete sellout (8,200) and about a 50/50 split between fans. It's always been this way and it's pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought it was) that the North Country teams are the big draws for Placid. That's why there have been numerous non-conference games played between SLU and Clarkson at Lake Placid. Not SLU or Clarkson vs Quinnipiac or Union or RPI, SLU vs. Clarkson because that is the big draw there. I don't know what else to say other than that.

The only other thing to add would be that if Quinnipiac is a heavy draw in Lake Placid (they are not) then why would they give SLU and Cornell Section 3 and Section 11? Which are the 2 biggest corner sections since they removed the top 3 rows in Sections 16 and 24 to add the standing platforms? Quinnipiac has sold a whopping 1 ... Yes 1 ticket in their fan section. We've sold more than half of our allotment already and that was with many fans giving up prior to the code being provided and just getting tickets scattered elsewhere throughout the rink.

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Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

This is simply not true. I've been to every Lake Placid ECACs and the SLU presence is never significant. They are great fans and they travel well, but their pool is just too small. Every SLU fan is an outstanding fan, and Canton gives it everything they have, and I have spent many an evening and many a beer hanging out with them, but they do not have numbers.

Heavy: Cornell, Clarkson, extremely annoyingly Quinnipiac, once upon a time Vermont

Medium: Union, RPI

Small: Colgate, St. Lawrence, Dartmouth

Nearly Zero: Brown, Princeton, Yale even when they were good, Harvard

I really don't mean to be rude, but if you actually think that Quinnipiac has a heavy travel presence in Lake Placid and that Union or RPI bring more fans than SLU then you just plain and simply do not know what you are talking about. I've been going to each and every ECAC tournament since the first go around in Lake Placid back in the 90's, the Atlantic City days, the Albany days etc and SLU and Clarkson and Cornell are the big draws to Lake Placid. Always have been. SLU has made it twice to Lake Placid (since its return) back in 2015 and 2016 and it was partisan, significantly partisan SLU fans compared to the other teams. There were even articles in the local papers commenting on "the significantly partisan SLU turnout" at the time. When SLU/Clarkson met in the Championship game back in 1999 it was a complete sellout (8,200) and about a 50/50 split between fans. It's always been this way and it's pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought it was) that the North Country teams are the big draws for Placid. That's why there have been numerous non-conference games played between SLU and Clarkson at Lake Placid. Not SLU or Clarkson vs Quinnipiac or Union or RPI, SLU vs. Clarkson because that is the big draw there. I don't know what else to say other than that.

RPI has played a midesason, nonconference game vs. Clarkson in LP (1/7/17), also twice vs. Union (I think as part of doubleheaders).

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Jeff Hopkins '82
Just get into the rink, and figure it out from there.

This. The weekend is going to be 90% Q and Cornell fans. The Q fans are going to leave after their game to either celebrate or slink back to Toilet-on-the-Connecticut.

We will have a half empty building to ourselves.

Advice: if you come without tickets get there early because LP has yet to get their shit together at the walkup office, and the lines get long. You'll get in but you don't want to miss the whole first period.

Curious, doesn't SLU travel well? Such a short drive? I would hope they would. Can't wait for Friday night! LGR!!

if everyone in canton goes, they could fill as many as two sections

You're joking right? You all do realize that the 2 biggest draws in Lake Placid always have been SLU and Clarkson? It's actually not even close. I read the comment the other day about the "90% Q and Cornell fans" and chuckled. It's only an hour and a half from Canton to Lake Placid and, every time we play there, roughly half of the attendees are SLU fans. So, just letting you know, yes there will be plenty of SLU fans there.

This is simply not true. I've been to every Lake Placid ECACs and the SLU presence is never significant. They are great fans and they travel well, but their pool is just too small. Every SLU fan is an outstanding fan, and Canton gives it everything they have, and I have spent many an evening and many a beer hanging out with them, but they do not have numbers.

Heavy: Cornell, Clarkson, extremely annoyingly Quinnipiac, once upon a time Vermont

Medium: Union, RPI

Small: Colgate, St. Lawrence, Dartmouth

Nearly Zero: Brown, Princeton, Yale even when they were good, Harvard

I really don't mean to be rude, but if you actually think that Quinnipiac has a heavy travel presence in Lake Placid and that Union or RPI bring more fans than SLU then you just plain and simply do not know what you are talking about. I've been going to each and every ECAC tournament since the first go around in Lake Placid back in the 90's, the Atlantic City days, the Albany days etc and SLU and Clarkson and Cornell are the big draws to Lake Placid. Always have been. SLU has made it twice to Lake Placid (since its return) back in 2015 and 2016 and it was partisan, significantly partisan SLU fans compared to the other teams. There were even articles in the local papers commenting on "the significantly partisan SLU turnout" at the time. When SLU/Clarkson met in the Championship game back in 1999 it was a complete sellout (8,200) and about a 50/50 split between fans. It's always been this way and it's pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought it was) that the North Country teams are the big draws for Placid. That's why there have been numerous non-conference games played between SLU and Clarkson at Lake Placid. Not SLU or Clarkson vs Quinnipiac or Union or RPI, SLU vs. Clarkson because that is the big draw there. I don't know what else to say other than that.

RPI has played a midesason, nonconference game vs. Clarkson in LP (1/7/17), also twice vs. Union (I think as part of doubleheaders).

I actually forgot about that Clarkson/RPI game. The Union/RPI games were back in 2010-2011 for the first 2 years of the Halloween Faceoff that they used to do. It was double header with the Union/RPI game first and the SLU/Clarkson game second. I was at both games. Vaguely remember them. The Clarkson/RPI game had an attendance figure of 2,300 compared to the 5,500 listed for SLU/Clarkson games in Lake Placid back in 2013.

I, for one, would welcome a field of SLU, Clarkson, RPI, and us. Much prefer SLU and RPI to Harvard.

Would be rockin’. Considering how bad RPI has been, I start to wonder when it will ever happen again.

I got tickets in the Quinnipiac section, section 24, kittycorner across from the Cornell section (11), because it has the most seats up high, it is the end Cornell attacks period 1 and 3, and in part because I love the irony of a school's broadcast journalism school being named (in part) to honor Ed McMahon (think Jimmy Kimmel's Guillermo). Most of the Q partisans will have decamped to watering holes along Main Street. The St. Lawrence section in the corner near Q, have fewer seats left.

Virtually every seat on the sides not corners is shown as being taken as of Wednesday. That's fabulous for LP tourism and their economy. If it's accurate. Last year's Friday night session drew 3533, half full, and the championship game drew about 1500.

billhoward
I got tickets in the Quinnipiac section, section 24, kittycorner across from the Cornell section (11), because it has the most seats up high, it is the end Cornell attacks period 1 and 3, and in part because I love the irony of a school's broadcast journalism school being named (in part) to honor Ed McMahon (think Jimmy Kimmel's Guillermo). Most of the Q partisans will have decamped to watering holes along Main Street. The St. Lawrence section in the corner near Q, have fewer seats left.

Virtually every seat on the sides not corners is shown as being taken as of Wednesday. That's fabulous for LP tourism and their economy. If it's accurate. Last year's Friday night session drew 3533, half full, and the championship game drew about 1500.

The championship game attendance last year was actually 3,839.

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billhoward
I got tickets in the Quinnipiac section, section 24, kittycorner across from the Cornell section (11), because it has the most seats up high, it is the end Cornell attacks period 1 and 3, and in part because I love the irony of a school's broadcast journalism school being named (in part) to honor Ed McMahon (think Jimmy Kimmel's Guillermo). Most of the Q partisans will have decamped to watering holes along Main Street. The St. Lawrence section in the corner near Q, have fewer seats left.

Virtually every seat on the sides not corners is shown as being taken as of Wednesday. That's fabulous for LP tourism and their economy. If it's accurate. Last year's Friday night session drew 3533, half full, and the championship game drew about 1500.

The championship game attendance last year was actually 3,839.

I don't know, but maybe Bill was referring to the number of people who showed up in the stands and not tickets sold.

Correct, the ECAC site box score has it as 3839, or 49.9% full in a 7700-seat arena, for Colgate's 3-2 win over Harvard a year ago in Placid. I never know if the site publishes tickets sold for the game or people who actually come in.

I'm buying the two-game package but if Cornell loses Friday (unthinkable), we would not perhaps show Saturday, it being a multiple-of-ten anniversary for us. At a place like MSG the vendors certainly want to know how many people actually walked in the door.

I know the image is big, but when there's a Big red C that says 3 and the red H says 2, well, it deserves repeating.

billhoward
Correct, the ECAC site box score has it as 3839, or 49.9% full in a 7700-seat arena, for Colgate's 3-2 win over Harvard a year ago in Placid. I never know if the site publishes tickets sold for the game or people who actually come in.

I don't know any venue on the planet anymore that counts people who come in. It's always tickets sold.

Here's what to do in Lake Placid this weekend with Cornell in the ECACs. Before you go: Bring a pair of snow brushes and extra windshield washer fluid. Will not reach 30 all weekend. Snowy Saturday, 5"-8", Lake Placid can handle it no problem.

For visitors, Lake Placid is effectively one street wide, a half mile long: Main Street, the greenish line. (the map points north.) The LP Olympic Center and 7700 seat Herb Brooks Arena marks the southern end of downtown, the yellow circle. Just below the circle is the Olympic speed skating oval and LP HS. Where it says "~parking," that's about where you'll be pushed to park, it's not that far, I don't believe they charge, everybody is friendly because Nobody Gets Rich Working in Lake Placid. Don't yell at them and tip well. Gwen's family has been there since circa 1850 and one relative said the only good jobs in ADK are teacher, snow plow operator and now prison guard.

Most every place to eat is casual and the food is okay. I recommend (walking directions are relative to the rink):
* Best sports bar that holds a crowd, Wise Guys, Main and School Street, just south of the rink/speed skating oval. Lots of TVs in case you want to watch basketball. I've seen the refs there after the game. Be nice.
* Best breakfast, Downtown Diner, ran into Andy Iles' family there a decade ago. 2-3 blocks south of where the skating oval ends.
* Best brew pub, Lake Placid Brew Pub. Walk south 2/3 of the way toward the end of the skating oval, left at the Mobile station onto Mirror Lake Drive, walk one block plus, just before the Hampton Inn. Pretty decent food.
* Best sandwich shop, Big Mountain Deli & Creperie, 2475 Main St, about halfway up Main Street on the right (Mirror Lake) side. Go for lunch or breakfast; closes 3 pm.
* Best sandwich shop (need a car), Saranac Sourdough, 2126 Saranac Ave # 1. At the top of Mains Street, curve left onto Saranac Ave., 6/10 mile on the left. 'til 2 pm, noon Sundays. Run by people who are kin to the alt / sixties / Moosewood-of-Ithaca style, but they do serve sandwiches with meat. Love the place.
* Best (only) big hotel sports bar / pub, Dancing Bears at the High Peaks Resort (nee Hilton for the 1980 Games). Friendly, food is okay to good, holds a lot of people, service was variable last summer (harder to get guest worker visas last couple years) and understaffed at times.
* Live music: Smoke Signals and Zig Zags Pub, both halfway up Main street on the lake side.

A lot of restaurants have changed hands in the past decade, new ones take their place, more Asian fare now. I've never had a terrible meal in LP, relative to price.

If for some reason you need winter gear (like it's colder than you think, or you forgot gloves), EMS on Main Street has people who know their stuff.

As of two years ago, LP Rink let you get a hand stamp and walk out between games, get a drink and burger, see some of the basketball tournament, wander back in. I don't believe MSG lets you do that; instead they put up the facial recognition cams.

Need something else to do? There are a couple small distilleries to tour and taste. Our favorite is Gristmiller Distillers in Keene, 20 minutes southwest of LP on Route 73. Plus small breweries.

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billhoward
Correct, the ECAC site box score has it as 3839, or 49.9% full in a 7700-seat arena, for Colgate's 3-2 win over Harvard a year ago in Placid. I never know if the site publishes tickets sold for the game or people who actually come in.

I don't know any venue on the planet anymore that counts people who come in. It's always tickets sold.

Imagine perfect world if only for a moment, all information available and distributed. So the smallest T-shirt vendor inside MSG has the same information as the Dolan family and determines the low clothing revenues from the tractor-pull-in-MSG-mudpile event was from low attendance relative to ticket sales on a snowy day, versus it being a cheap-ass crowd. It is not going to happen, but it'd be nice.

In Lake Placid, it would be possible to see, and know, what fraction of fans came in for the first game, for the second, and possibly how many first-game attendees left then came back. Add that to all the closed-circuit cams at the entry/exit gates, and they'd know how many game 1 attendees left but didn't return.

In case anyone cared. I care mostly about seeing Lord Stanley's Cup brought back to the ECAC tourney. A lot of kids loved seeing that thing. Me too. It was history up close. I believe it was the year the Miracle on Ice guys came back to LP and they did a Main Street pub crawl to say hi to fans the afternoon of the finals. Geez, those guys, in their 40s, seemed so, ah, normal. Sadly, not all of them are still with us.

Fan cams (of a sort) at MSG, Red Hot Hockey 2023:

billhoward

adamw

billhoward
Correct, the ECAC site box score has it as 3839, or 49.9% full in a 7700-seat arena, for Colgate's 3-2 win over Harvard a year ago in Placid. I never know if the site publishes tickets sold for the game or people who actually come in.

I don't know any venue on the planet anymore that counts people who come in. It's always tickets sold.

Imagine perfect world if only for a moment, all information available and distributed. So the smallest T-shirt vendor inside MSG has the same information as the Dolan family and determines the low clothing revenues from the tractor-pull-in-MSG-mudpile event was from low attendance relative to ticket sales on a snowy day, versus it being a cheap-ass crowd. It is not going to happen, but it'd be nice.

In Lake Placid, it would be possible to see, and know, what fraction of fans came in for the first game, for the second, and possibly how many first-game attendees left then came back. Add that to all the closed-circuit cams at the entry/exit gates, and they'd know how many game 1 attendees left but didn't return.

In case anyone cared. I care mostly about seeing Lord Stanley's Cup brought back to the ECAC tourney. A lot of kids loved seeing that thing. Me too. It was history up close. I believe it was the year the Miracle on Ice guys came back to LP and they did a Main Street pub crawl to say hi to fans the afternoon of the finals. Geez, those guys, in their 40s, seemed so, ah, normal. Sadly, not all of them are still with us.

Fan cams (of a sort) at MSG, Red Hot Hockey 2023:

For me, “perfect world” doesn’t involve anything you just described: extreme tracking of everything, every single bit of consumer datum being analyzed and optimized for max profit, or even queues for metal detectors and cameras everywhere in our Security Theater world and I can’t even walk into a drug store to buy gum without being presented with some survey. Also my lawn sure has a lot of kids on it.

How about putting on a good, entertaining event and selling tickets to those who want it? Build it/people come, yadda etc.

(I assume Trotsky has started roadtripping North, so someone has to stand in.)

Sorry, I switched to an LG Gram (<3 pounds, 17-inch screen) and as part of the weight-reduction project, they removed the irony font. My bad.

I was thinking of the little guy getting the same information as the big guy. Like how Toyota shared most all its factory production data with suppliers so they could make parts ever better. Savvy corporations, at least in books about business innovation, move data down from the corporate suite to make for a leaner, more customer-facing business. [Aside: More than a few freshman hockey players are in the Johnson School.]

Against that, you note, People Have No Privacy when cameras watch us everywhere. I believe Scott McNealy, co-founder of Sun Microsystems in the 1980s, was asked about this and said, "Face it, you have no privacy." Man ahead of his times. I see the NJ State Police are installing license plate readers on bridges into NJ from Delaware so the gov't has an idea on which cares enter and exit NJ. The Star-Ledger (initial at least) story did not ask about right to privacy. But if they had, the ready reply would be, "Driving is a privilege, not a right."

adamw
I don't know any venue on the planet anymore that counts people who come in. It's always tickets sold.

The Mets used to do both: tickets and turnstile. They stopped when MLB threatened them.

Thank you for the great info.
Don't forget skiing at Whiteface during the day. With the snow predicted this weekend, take advantage of it.
I don't know if any practice or events are going on, but the ski jumps and Mt. Van Hoevenberg, the location for the bobsled and luge tracks and cross country ski trails, are all just east of town on Rte 73.
Along with the big mountains, there are also many shorter and easier trails to hike, get some fresh air, and get a taste of the Adirondacks.
The parking lots in town have kiosks to pay.
Lake Placid is a great place. I live 1 1/2 hrs away in VT and go to LP fairly frequently.

billhoward
St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

She's too busy impeaching Biden and getting university presidents fired to spend much time and attention to something as mundane as roads.

(I'm hoping Congresswoman Stefanik stays in that position and develops enough additional clout to bring wired internet and electricity along our road 15 miles outside LP that has it at both ends, but not the 250 yards in the middle. Yeah, we've got solar and we've got a backup generator, but there's nothing like grid power if you want to add a heat pump. You especially want electric if a government grant pays for it.)

Oh fuck me. Lake Placid predicted low for Saturday: 8.

billhoward
(I'm hoping Congresswoman Stefanik stays in that position and develops enough additional clout to bring wired internet and electricity along our road 15 miles outside LP that has it at both ends, but not the 250 yards in the middle. Yeah, we've got solar and we've got a backup generator, but there's nothing like grid power if you want to add a heat pump. You especially want electric if a government grant pays for it.)

Apparently the Executive Branch has already addressed the internet issue (but just not yet in Stefank's district). Hummmm.

Trotsky
Oh fuck me. Lake Placid predicted low for Saturday: 8.

And 6" of snow.

That part's good.

Trotsky
That part's good.

Maybe.

I don't ski, so as long as the roads are open enough for me to do some birdwatching, it's OK.

OTOH, if we don't win Friday night, they'd better be open enough so I can drive home on Saturday.

a) Fiber is 300 yards away but not getting closer. Our unprovisioned part of the road has our camp with a half dozen buildings and families, one other camp, and about 150 people. Unfortunately 125 of them are veterans of the Revolutionary War and not voting any more. I believe. "Camp" is Adirondack-speak for anything from an open-front lean-to to the places the robber barons built circa 1900.

b) End of the decade availability is good, but what about 2025, day. Starlink works good but it's close to $100 a month and the sucker draws 75 watts which is a big chunk of what our solar panels and a backup battery can handle on a cloudy day.

c) Comprised of? Jeezus, gawd, I thought even a non-AI grammar checker would catch that.

Federal officialdom
The $45 billion Internet for All Initiative is comprised of several programs designed to build high-speed broadband infrastructure, teach digital skills, and provide the necessary technology to ensure that everyone in the U.S. is able to fully participate in society. The initiative will draw on resources from the bipartisan infrastructure law known as the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act signed into law by President Biden on Nov. 15, 20

On Main Street, you are never more than 50 feet from the next bar and warming refreshment.

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billhoward
St. Lawrence definitely helps attendance in Lake Placid. Clarkson a bit more.

Clarkson        3700 students
St. Lawrence    2200 students

The best possible ECAC-in-Placid turnout would be Cornell, Clarkson, St. Lawrence and, um, pick one, maybe RPI. It is about 80 miles from Clarkson (+5 for St Lawrence) to Lake Placid but it is dark (well, yeah), twisty road that is not well-striped. Read: It's not that far but it's a bitch of drive home. With the clout of Congresswoman Stefanik in much of the Adirondacks, it's surprising there isn't funding for more highway improvements.

In 2000, it was us, Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Colgate, which seems just about optimal. Unfortunately for the attendance, Clarkson lost to RPI in the play-in Thursday night.

I don't have the attendance numbers handy.

Clarkson lost to Cornell in that PIG.

Whew! I think that I would have remembered if RPI had ever been at LP for the ECAC tourney since it returned there. It this stage of my life, I am concerned about signs of old age.

At this point, we're all old. The two tourneys I was conflating were 2000 and 2002, two of the last three before the ECACs moved from Placid to Albany. (And I'm pretty sure RPI was at both of them, since I cheered for them against SLU in the final in 2000, and I remember the RPI and Clarkson bands playing the anthems before their game in 2002. And also Cornell beating RPI in the semis that year.)

On the road to Lake Placid with Kim. Wondering how others feel about rooting interest in the SLU vs. Quinnipiac game. Personally I'm rooting for SLU, because I think Cornell has a greater chance of beating them should we beat Dartmouth and make the finals. (And because Quinnipiac is high on my list of teams to dislike.) But I expect some here will be rooting for Quinnipiac, with the logic being that if we beat them in the finals we'd be likely to have a higher seed in the NCAA tourney. It's not even close for me, but wondering how others will be rooting.

andyw2100
On the road to Lake Placid with Kim. Wondering how others feel about rooting interest in the SLU vs. Quinnipiac game. Personally I'm rooting for SLU, because I think Cornell has a greater chance of beating them should we beat Dartmouth and make the finals. (And because Quinnipiac is high on my list of teams to dislike.) But I expect some here will be rooting for Quinnipiac, with the logic being that if we beat them in the finals we'd be likely to have a higher seed in the NCAA tourney. It's not even close for me, but wondering how others will be rooting.

Rooting for Quinnipiac on the basis that we’d rather be a 3-seed than a 4-seed at the cost of probably not getting into the NCAAs at all is, ummm, an interesting stance to take.

andyw2100
On the road to Lake Placid with Kim. Wondering how others feel about rooting interest in the SLU vs. Quinnipiac game. Personally I'm rooting for SLU, because I think Cornell has a greater chance of beating them should we beat Dartmouth and make the finals. (And because Quinnipiac is high on my list of teams to dislike.) But I expect some here will be rooting for Quinnipiac, with the logic being that if we beat them in the finals we'd be likely to have a higher seed in the NCAA tourney. It's not even close for me, but wondering how others will be rooting.

With at large hopes at zero, it's about winning the Whitelaw. On paper, SLU would be the preferred opponent if they get by Dartmouth. One or two changed results during the year and we may have needed to see Q in order for Cornell to be in no matter what but that ship sailed.

Nice long game with a few DQs would be fine too.

andyw2100
On the road to Lake Placid with Kim. Wondering how others feel about rooting interest in the SLU vs. Quinnipiac game. Personally I'm rooting for SLU, because I think Cornell has a greater chance of beating them should we beat Dartmouth and make the finals. (And because Quinnipiac is high on my list of teams to dislike.) But I expect some here will be rooting for Quinnipiac, with the logic being that if we beat them in the finals we'd be likely to have a higher seed in the NCAA tourney. It's not even close for me, but wondering how others will be rooting.

If Q gets upset, it will guarantee two ECAC teams(*) in the NCAAs, which most of us (besides BearLover, of course) would prefer in any event.

(*) Or, for some of us, one "real" ECAC team.

I want the easiest path to the Whitelaw and the NCAA's. That means rooting for SLU.

Despising Q is just a bonus.

Pierre McGuire is doing color on the Q-SLU game. What’s he going to do with no Sidney Crosby to moon over? God I was hoping to not be subjected to him again.

I see he coached at SLU many many years ago.

Visual estimate of attendance for SLU-Q is 2000-2500

imafrshmn
Visual estimate of attendance for SLU-Q is 2000-2500

Have the world-famous Q skating cheerleaders made the trip to North Country?

dbilmes

imafrshmn
Visual estimate of attendance for SLU-Q is 2000-2500

Have the world-famous Q skating cheerleaders made the trip to North Country?

I am watching the espn broadcast but i did notice a pom-pom squad in the background.

Pierre McGuire and Phil Murphy are the biggest snoozes of announcers i've heard all year. I'd rather have the SLU homers on the mic

dbilmes

imafrshmn
Visual estimate of attendance for SLU-Q is 2000-2500

Have the world-famous Q skating cheerleaders made the trip to North Country?

Yes - I saw them arrive with the band earlier today

arugula
I see he coached at SLU many many years ago.

His son also currently plays for Colgate. He's had interest in the ECAC for quite some and during the 2012-2013 NHL lockout, he had been on color commentary for some NCAA games that were being broadcast nationally.

Iceberg

arugula
I see he coached at SLU many many years ago.

His son also currently plays for Colgate. He's had interest in the ECAC for quite some and during the 2012-2013 NHL lockout, he had been on color commentary for some NCAA games that were being broadcast nationally.

Including a Harvard game at Lynah with Mike Emrick.

I don't want to jinx it but halfway through the 2nd period, up 1-0, SLU is looking pretty confident and pushing bobcats around all over the ice.

Saints up 1-0 mid-2nd.

2-0 now but reviewing for kick; good goal!