Cornell v Union

Posting the game thread early to note that the womens' QF is pushing the start time for the Union game back to 7:30.

ugarte
Posting the game thread early to note that the womens' QF is pushing the start time for the Union game back to 7:30.

And would also put it closer to the start of the basketball game at Penn

They also have a shit record with my game threads, so to you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

I see they announced the final plans for the new Union arena.

ugarte
Posting the game thread early to note that the womens' QF is pushing the start time for the Union game back to 7:30.

Is there an admission fee for the women? I'm wondering if I might be able to arrive early enough to see that quarterfinal.

marty

ugarte
Posting the game thread early to note that the womens' QF is pushing the start time for the Union game back to 7:30.

Is there an admission fee for the women? I'm wondering if I might be able to arrive early enough to see that quarterfinal.

At least for this round, women's playoff tickets are $5.00.

dag14

marty

ugarte
Posting the game thread early to note that the womens' QF is pushing the start time for the Union game back to 7:30.

Is there an admission fee for the women? I'm wondering if I might be able to arrive early enough to see that quarterfinal.

At least for this round, women's playoff tickets are $5.00.

When I was in North Country last weekend, they were also advertising tickets for the women's games for $5. It's probably a price set by the ECAC.

Castagna a pretty early goal off assists by O'Leary and Mack. 1-0.

dbilmes

dag14

marty

ugarte
Posting the game thread early to note that the womens' QF is pushing the start time for the Union game back to 7:30.

Is there an admission fee for the women? I'm wondering if I might be able to arrive early enough to see that quarterfinal.

At least for this round, women's playoff tickets are $5.00.

When I was in North Country last weekend, they were also advertising tickets for the women's games for $5. It's probably a price set by the ECAC.

So dumb. Way to impede the growth of the sport.

Bah, UC ppg, 1-1. No saves yet.

Slash on DeSantis, first Cornell pp.

Excellent pp, 4 good chances so far. Guys moving, screening, nice.

2 goals on 3 shots vs Shane. But the second one was a deflection; nobody gets that.

Two penalties in the offensive zone in the first 9 minutes? Come on

Trotsky
2 goals on 3 shots vs Shane. But the second one was a deflection; nobody gets that.

2 early failures of the PK. Frustrating to see us struggle with both sides of special teams. Also to see opponents show off an effective PP. 7 seconds on the 2nd one.

Look much faster today. Last week was rough.

DeSantis obviously has a stolen Hawaiian statuette.

Brady Bunch reference. Excellent.

I recently realized Mike sired all 6 kids. When Carol's first husband found out, Mike murdered him, and now Carol is holding it over him, forcing him to marry and support her while she doesn't even cook or clean.

Freakin’ Alice.

kaburke00
Freakin’ Alice.

She and Sam the Butcher are victims of a human trafficking ring run by Reuben and Danny from the Partridge Family.

I would like to see some sustained pressure, please.

Edit: by Cornell, please.

that's a power play

ugarte
that's a power play

13 seconds, two golden chances and we cashed one of them in.

That evens the luck up.

Offense looking anemic

Big Dingus
Offense looking anemic

We've had chances. Have not buried em.

Big Dingus
Offense looking anemic

Disagree. We’ve missed several excellent chances and have had plenty of O zone time. We’ve been a bit too leaky defensively, and having an usually poor night on faceoffs

Oh we nearly had them there, they were dog tired and we beat them to the puck 3x, but just could not get the angle.

If we keep playing this way we will win.

The "closer," third period specialist Donaldson, has entered the chat.

This pretty much it here though. Tournament locked in at 11 and we are suddenly struggling with low ranked opponents. So odd

Union goalie has been very good tonight.

Big Dingus
This pretty much it here though. Tournament locked in at 11 and we are suddenly struggling with low ranked opponents. So odd

Locked in at 11?

11 safe seeds. Then up to 5 dark horses. But I think it's 10/6.

Trotsky
11 safe seeds. Then up to 5 dark horses.

Sure. But "locked in at 11" would mean you need to be top 11 to get in.

Dafatone

Trotsky
11 safe seeds. Then up to 5 dark horses.

Sure. But "locked in at 11" would mean you need to be top 11 to get in.

I think he meant if you are top 11 (10) you are safely in -- locked. While if you are outside then a perfect storm can kill you.

I just want to win our 13th ECAC Championship. I am a simple man.

We were 11 after our good stretch then started to go to OT / lose against some of the worst teams teams in the nation

I think we have played a good period. Just no love.

And I swear we have broken 6 sticks this period.

It seems like it’s been a long while since we won a face-off.

Big Dingus
We were 11 after our good stretch then started to go to OT / lose against some of the worst teams teams in the nation

We were 11 in the poll, not PWR. I think the lowest we ever ended a night in PWR was 13.

Need the FO.

Nope.

Goodbye ncaa

ECACs or bust. Tournament hopes over somehow by losing to trash ECAC teams. Crazy. Can beat teams like Umass and ASU and then lose to these guys

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Win at Lake Placid.

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Holy crap—you realize if we win the ECACs we’ll get a bid, right? I know it sucks right now but we have a team good enough to win the league.

At large bids lead to tooth decay.

One of those games.

Maybe it’s louder in the rink, but the crowd sounds like they’re in church late in games, up or down. It’s… disappointing. In church, but lacking in faith.

scoop85

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Holy crap—you realize if we win the ECACs we’ll get a bid, right? I know it sucks right now but we have a team good enough to win the league.

i mean sure but come on man. why would you chastise someone for pessimism after that game? we're not the best team in the conference and we're not playing well enough to have any confidence that we'll face them anyway.

I'm just gonna cling to the hope that we're still shaking off the effects of the flu and that a week off makes a big difference.

And if not, well, we have an awful lot of good-looking freshmen. Future's bright

Same. That bye week can’t come soon enough. Team looks exhausted sometimes.

ugarte

scoop85

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Holy crap—you realize if we win the ECACs we’ll get a bid, right? I know it sucks right now but we have a team good enough to win the league.

i mean sure but come on man. why would you chastise someone for pessimism after that game? we're not the best team in the conference and we're not playing well enough to have any confidence that we'll face them anyway.

Sure, we’re in a funk and I’m ticked off too, but I was just stating what should be obvious: that we have a legitimate and realistic path to the NCAAs.

Scersk '97
In church, but lacking in faith.

Uni-tarian.

Crowd was dead, team was dead, and now our hopes of an at large bid are dead. I’m done with the sickness excuse after two weeks of hearing it and we have no wins in our last four.

This really stings because about every other result tonight in college hockey has benefitted us, would’ve been in a really good spot had we won.

Glad ESPN doesn't seem to have the replay available...this way I don't have to watch it

Win Saturday, finish 2nd, take a week off, and welcome the fair weather fans back with open arms.

Going to see Dune 2 tonight so decided to watch Dune last night and catch the replay on espn+. Then it’s not there. Just as well I guess.

I can’t get the replay either and I missed the game last night.
Perhaps it’s for the best.
Hopefully tonight will be a better outcome

Twelve hours later and I’m still trying to figure out how to dissect that game. It was a game with three very distinctly different periods. Cornell came out, got that quick one and then couldn’t build on it due to penalties. They couldn’t get anything going the rest of the first. They came out in the second, won a ton of board battles and maintained a strong cycle. They dominated in possession most of the period but they kept making that one small mistake (like rimming the puck around to a vacated point) that would allow Union to reset. I don’t know if it was the late second period goal that sucked the life out of them but they came out for the third yet again a different team and couldn’t sustain any of the same pressure they had in the middle frame. Too many one and dones in the third. What a difference two weeks just made for the at large outlook.

Trotsky
Win Saturday, finish 2nd, take a week off, and welcome the fair weather fans back with open arms.

what the hell does fair weather fan mean? we watch all the games! we root for them every time! we realistically assess their performance and get annoyed at the greeting card optimism in the face of bad results. the glass is half-empty but it's still my favorite glass.

ugarte

Trotsky
Win Saturday, finish 2nd, take a week off, and welcome the fair weather fans back with open arms.

what the hell does fair weather fan mean? we watch all the games! we root for them every time! we realistically assess their performance and get annoyed at the greeting card optimism in the face of bad results. the glass is half-empty but it's still my favorite glass.

This. Yet Trotsky / black widow continue to attack the “pessimists” because we care

ugarte

Trotsky
Win Saturday, finish 2nd, take a week off, and welcome the fair weather fans back with open arms.

what the hell does fair weather fan mean? we watch all the games! we root for them every time! we realistically assess their performance and get annoyed at the greeting card optimism in the face of bad results. the glass is half-empty but it's still my favorite glass.

It means everybody east of the Hudson is an entitled POS. It's not their fault, they swallowed it with their mother's milk. Take 30 years away and it diminishes a tad.

Big Dingus

ugarte

Trotsky
Win Saturday, finish 2nd, take a week off, and welcome the fair weather fans back with open arms.

what the hell does fair weather fan mean? we watch all the games! we root for them every time! we realistically assess their performance and get annoyed at the greeting card optimism in the face of bad results. the glass is half-empty but it's still my favorite glass.

This. Yet Trotsky / black widow continue to attack the “pessimists” because we care

Hey. black widow is one of you people who wants to garrot the coaching staff every time we give up a goal. Careful with your accusations.

You aren't pessimists. You're clinically depressed. I'm on Mets reddit, I have nothing but sympathy for you.

Big Dingus

ugarte

Trotsky
Win Saturday, finish 2nd, take a week off, and welcome the fair weather fans back with open arms.

what the hell does fair weather fan mean? we watch all the games! we root for them every time! we realistically assess their performance and get annoyed at the greeting card optimism in the face of bad results. the glass is half-empty but it's still my favorite glass.

This. Yet Trotsky / black widow continue to attack the “pessimists” because we care

As someone who attacks pessimists, I feel left out.

Mostly I'm tired of every single loss, pretty much across all sports these days, turning into a moral failure. Blow a small lead early on? You choked. Lose a winnable game? You have no heart and didn't want it enough. Hit a slide? Must lacking in leadership.

Sometimes teams lose. I'm completely fine with people posting that they're angry and miserable after a tough loss. But attacking the team after a tough loss, when they've had a pretty good year, makes me defensive.

It's a geographical attitude. Every setback is a chance to mewl, attack, and bitch. It's the mating call of an entire metropolitan area of self-obsessed victims. Call it Nassau County Nausea. Privilege Poker. Nothing blowing the GW, sawing south of Westchester, towing it out to sea with a garbage barge and sinking it with all hands wouldn't fix.


Fig. 1 The Problem

Trotsky
It's a geographical attitude. Every setback is a chance to mewl, attack, and bitch. It's the mating call of an entire metropolitan area of self-obsessed victims. Call it Nassau County Nausea. Privilege Poker. Nothing blowing the GW, sawing south of Westchester, towing it out to sea with a garbage barge and sinking it with all hands wouldn't fix.

1280px-Map_of_the_Boroughs_of_New_York_City_and_the_counties_of_Long_Island.png

Fig. 1 The Problem

While I'm gonna push for the Nassau County Nausea for a junior league team name or something, I think this is nationwide at this point.

Dafatone
While I'm gonna push for the Nassau County Nausea for a junior league team name or something, I think this is nationwide at this point.

Let's say Long Island pioneered it and then sports radio, Seinfeld and social media spread it to derps the world over.

Trotsky
It's a geographical attitude. Every setback is a chance to mewl, attack, and bitch.

the defensive loser energy coming off of this is so strong my phone screen darkened

Trotsky
It's a geographical attitude. Every setback is a chance to mewl, attack, and bitch. It's the mating call of an entire metropolitan area of self-obsessed victims. Call it Nassau County Nausea. Privilege Poker. Nothing blowing the GW, sawing south of Westchester, towing it out to sea with a garbage barge and sinking it with all hands wouldn't fix.

1280px-Map_of_the_Boroughs_of_New_York_City_and_the_counties_of_Long_Island.png

Fig. 1 The Problem

Atlantik?

I mean, that's a goal.

ursusminor
Atlantik?

A Møøse once bit my sister.

Trotsky

ursusminor
Atlantik?

A Møøse once bit my sister.

The person responsible for this comment has been sacked.

scoop85

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Holy crap—you realize if we win the ECACs we’ll get a bid, right? I know it sucks right now but we have a team good enough to win the league.

It is true that we can still get into the NCAAs if we win the ECAC, yes. It is also true that Colgate, Dartmouth, and the rest of our league can do the same. Cornell is not special in this regard. We have the second best team in the league, but the reality is that winning the ECAC is a long shot. It cannot be more than 20%. The angry people on this forum are well aware we could, in theory, win the ECAC. We are unhappy anyway because we pissed away an at-large bid over the past two weekends.

The concept of the complainers being fair-weather fans is nonsense. If we sit through every game, every excruciating disappointment, how are we fair-weather fans? There are a couple of wild posters on here who seem to think Cornell losing is a moral failure or something. Most of us here don’t see things that way, but are disappointed all the same. A promising season has fallen to pieces. Now the entire year comes down to a tiny sample size of weighted coin flips, same as it does for every team who needs to win their conference tournament to make it to the NCAAs.

BearLover

scoop85

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Holy crap—you realize if we win the ECACs we’ll get a bid, right? I know it sucks right now but we have a team good enough to win the league.

It is true that we can still get into the NCAAs if we win the ECAC, yes. It is also true that Colgate, Dartmouth, and the rest of our league can do the same. Cornell is not special in this regard. We have the second best team in the league, but the reality is that winning the ECAC is a long shot. It cannot be more than 20%. The angry people on this forum are well aware we could, in theory, win the ECAC. We are unhappy anyway because we pissed away an at-large bid over the past two weekends.

The concept of the complainers being fair-weather fans is nonsense. If we sit through every game, every excruciating disappointment, how are we fair-weather fans? There are a couple of wild posters on here who seem to think Cornell losing is a moral failure or something. Most of us here don’t see things that way, but are disappointed all the same. A promising season has fallen to pieces. Now the entire year comes down to a tiny sample size of weighted coin flips, same as it does for every team who needs to win their conference tournament to make it to the NCAAs.

Even if your focus is ECAC > NCAA, we didn't finish first in the conference and haven't won the ECAC tournament since 2010.¹ Do the people who think we're haters not see the value of a back up plan so we get more Cornell hockey? Every game matters for its own sake, for its value in the ECAC standings (and seeding) AND for progress towards the NCAAs - even if you consider that a mere trinket (a feeling, I am sure, not shared by Ken Dryden). When the conference is having a down year, it feels like we're much better than most of our conference peers, and we STILL keep going to fucking overtime or losing... guh.

1. NB: Trotsky - my first choice to confirm this would have been TBRW but... (let me know if it's an issue on my end)

#ugarte: Thank you, I'm already learning a lot. Can you tell me what OS/Browser combo you are running?

I do not get the error; if anybody else does please PM me here. I've occasionally gotten it in the past looking at sites and I always figure, "welp, midget porn."

Worked for me in 2 different browsers.

If Schafer challenges the Clarkson tying goal for a hand pass and it gets overturned, we’d be favorites for an at-large bid. Or if we beat Union, of course.

IF cornell only wins Union or Clarkson the PWR doesn't change much. Winning both would jump them to 12th

upprdeck
IF cornell only wins Union or Clarkson the PWR doesn't change much. Winning both would jump them to 12th

The point is that Cornell would be the *favorite* to receive an at-large bid by the end of the season, not that they would receive one if the season ended today. Most of the teams ahead of them will likely lose one or more times before the end of their conference tournaments.

nvm

Best case if Cornell wins the 2 playoff games and everything thing goes right they can get to 12th.

More likely they win 2 and can scrape into 14th if several things go right.

if they win 3 and close to Q at least they have path in hand to know by then what can happen.

Trotsky
#ugarte: Thank you, I'm already learning a lot. Can you tell me what OS/Browser combo you are running?

I do not get the error; if anybody else does please PM me here. I've occasionally gotten it in the past looking at sites and I always figure, "welp, midget porn."

1. it's working for me now
2. whenever i tried to send you my specs by PM or reply, i got a Phorum Phailure error which makes me think it reads all the numbers as spam
3. the cornell.edu address on your contact page forwards to an old work email and bounces

PM if you want to send another address to get the specs on my laptop/browser

ugarte

Trotsky
#ugarte: Thank you, I'm already learning a lot. Can you tell me what OS/Browser combo you are running?

I do not get the error; if anybody else does please PM me here. I've occasionally gotten it in the past looking at sites and I always figure, "welp, midget porn."

1. it's working for me now
2. whenever i tried to send you my specs by PM or reply, i got a Phorum Phailure error which makes me think it reads all the numbers as spam
3. the cornell.edu address on your contact page forwards to an old work email and bounces

PM if you want to send another address to get the specs on my laptop/browser

I’d just like to point out that our common fandom relies on two sites that were designed more or less when html frames (and Jason Elliott) were pretty great.

It’s a bit endearing at this point.

RichH
I’d just like to point out that our common fandom relies on two sites that were designed more or less when html frames (and Jason Elliott) were pretty great.

It’s a bit endearing at this point.

I can think of another site that is a similarly endearing time capsule of Internet 1.0…

Indeed, someone (never me) should create a Webring of such sites.

Also, I dearly miss collegehockeystats.net.

Scersk '97
I dearly miss collegehockeystats.net.

F yes.

Still the only site that did stats right.

Our Knights are Awesome! Simply Awesome!

Trotsky

Scersk '97
I dearly miss collegehockeystats.net.

F yes.

Still the only site that did stats right.

Explain "right" ... we have everything on our site that they had. And then some.

Consider this user testing experience.

Also - you guys are probably not the common user base

I'm not going to fight with you. I will say this is my ideal, and this is tooth-ache inducing.

I recognize that for profitability you have to bend over for the iPacifier perma-children, and that there is no more margin for you to serve me my preference than for Amazon to hawk this over this.

But, like Amazon, I wish you would stock both. I wish you, and the world, would simply have an adult schema for the visual display of information. By all means, soak the rubes, but set aside a tiny portion of the ROI for the last few humans, as the wave of plastic vomit engulfs us all.

Trotsky
I'm not going to fight with you. I will say this is my ideal, and this is tooth-ache inducing.

I recognize that for profitability you have to bend over for the iPacifier perma-children, and that there is no more margin for you to serve me my preference than for Amazon to hawk this over this.

But, like Amazon, I wish you would stock both. I wish you, and the world, would simply have an adult schema for the visual display of information. By all means, soak the rubes, but set aside a tiny portion of the ROI for the last few humans, as the wave of plastic vomit engulfs us all.

I can't argue with your personal aesthetic preferences ... Just saying, we have all the data. And much of what you call fluff, is to aid navigation of such - something I'm always trying to improve upon.

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Where’s blackwidow?

BearLover

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Where’s blackwidow?

Where’s blackwidow?

Clap clap clap-clap-clap

BearLover

BearLover

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Where’s blackwidow?

Where’s blackwidow?

Clap clap clap-clap-clap

Ill be back after cornell loses to Denver

blackwidow
Ill be back after cornell loses to Denver

We need all our anti-woofers on deck. Stay right where you are. We see you and we appreciate you.

blackwidow

BearLover

BearLover

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Where’s blackwidow?

Where’s blackwidow?

Clap clap clap-clap-clap

Ill be back after cornell loses to Denver

Actually, let me preempt this right now.

You are a loser. You only show up on this forum immediately following a Cornell loss or during the game when Cornell is losing. Sometimes resulting in hilarity, like when you said “Goodbye NCAAs” after the Union game or “heh” when Cornell was down 3-1 to Dartmouth in the ECAC semis. Even though you are ostensibly a fan, you never say a single positive thing about the program. We all know that if Cornell loses to Denver, you’ll be on here posting about how Schafer can’t get to the Frozen Four. Doesn’t matter that Cornell is an Ivy that can’t offer scholarships or accept transfers and starts the season later than everyone else and has limitations on practice time yet has seen consistent league and national success for decades. You should either completely revamp your posting style or stop posting altogether.

BearLover

blackwidow

BearLover

BearLover

blackwidow
Goodbye ncaa

Where’s blackwidow?

Where’s blackwidow?

Clap clap clap-clap-clap

Ill be back after cornell loses to Denver

Actually, let me preempt this right now.

You are a loser. You only show up on this forum immediately following a Cornell loss or during the game when Cornell is losing. Sometimes resulting in hilarity, like when you said “Goodbye NCAAs” after the Union game or “heh” when Cornell was down 3-1 to Dartmouth in the ECAC semis. Even though you are ostensibly a fan, you never say a single positive thing about the program. We all know that if Cornell loses to Denver, you’ll be on here posting about how Schafer can’t get to the Frozen Four. Doesn’t matter that Cornell is an Ivy that can’t offer scholarships or accept transfers and starts the season later than everyone else and has limitations on practice time yet has seen consistent league and national success for decades. You should either completely revamp your posting style or stop posting altogether.

Sometimes, posters are more interested in negativity than positivity, and they post more about what's wrong with the team than what's right.

That's okay (even if it gets on my nerves sometimes). Some people like venting their negativity.

But once in a very long while, there's someone here who isn't a fan and just enjoys seeing us lose. I think this is one of those times.

have you ever listened to an interview of someone who got a cochlear implant late in life? one of the hardest challenges is filtering out background noise because they haven't had their whole life to learn which sounds are the relevant ones. here, we are all experienced enough to know the difference and still we can't help but shout back at the noise.