Cornell vs Arizona State, 12/30 7:30 pm

ASU 16 in PWR; Cornell 20.

ASU wins a whole lot of close games which, depending on how you look at it, makes them either very good or very lucky.

Or defensive-oriented. Recall dominating 1- and 2- goal games back in the day. One mistake and pfft.

That's a tense way to live; I prefer now.

The bank commercial on WHCU always throws me because it starts with the exact guitar lead-in of my favorite romantic song, Jonathan Coulton's "Skullcrusher Mountain."

How is the crowd? With the tie last night, how did they decide who played who today or was that already set?

Sperris
How is the crowd? With the tie last night, how did they decide who played who today or was that already set?

We won the shootout to advance to the title game.

ASU sweaters are sweet.

ASU looks like a big team. Quite physical to start, too

Man, Cornell athletics has been running the same promo ad for a zillion years now. “Now I’m in this place where I know how to balance my life, and it’s great.”

1-0 after 1. Shane, Bancroft, Robertson, Seger have all been great in this tounry so far.

Stanley with a few well-timed pinches this weekend resulting in quality shots (including the goal yesterday). I wonder if they've been having him attack more after seeing his previous games because he's more noticeable on the offense now.

Is there a bell here tonight? I have a bell but have never done it before and don't want to step on anyone's toes

These ECAC Hockey commercials are killing me with the loud music and flashing screens.

Really horrible penalty call on Walsh at the end of the period there.

BearLover
Really horrible penalty call on Walsh at the end of the period there.

The guy sold it well. Walsh got his stick tied with the ASU player, so he threw his arms up like he got hit. My guess is the ref who called it didn't see it well and just caught the reaction.

These ads are a nightmare.

16 of our 19 skaters have attempted at least one shot tonight, and Bancroft is not among them.

Have a bad feeling about this. Bearlover, please come in and bring some negativity

Cornell hockey never wins tournament hardware. Simple as

Tying two teams above us in PWR is not a tragedy. Just feels bad to have let leads slip away. Oh well... we'll be in Tempe if any if youse are joining us.

blackwidow
Cornell hockey never wins tournament hardware. Simple as

Please stop.

ASU is a joke of a program anyway. Would never send my kid to that sorry excuse of “school”. Just one big party of degenerates

Sucks, but probably not the worst to have some fire in our belly heading to Tempe.

Trotsky

blackwidow
Cornell hockey never wins tournament hardware. Simple as

Please stop.

I'm relatively young here (only started watching cornell hockey since 2014) sorry for my recency bias.

Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

Big Dingus
ASU is a joke of a program anyway. Would never send my kid to that sorry excuse of “school”. Just one big party of degenerates

My son-in-law is a graduate of ASU in Computer Science and I'd put him against a randomly chosen Cornell graduate of the same degree.

So, you know, suck it.

BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

We do. I do come away from this weekend with a good feeling about the rest of the season. Play well; the rating will come.

blackwidow

Trotsky

blackwidow
Cornell hockey never wins tournament hardware. Simple as

Please stop.

I'm relatively young here (only started watching cornell hockey since 2014) sorry for my recency bias.

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BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.

I liked what we did in the shootout yesterday, walking the puck in close and then ripping a shot. Today we just tried to get the goalie to bite on a move and push it around him which didn’t really work. I don’t know if this was because of the smaller goalie, guys wanting to switch it up, or what, but I wish we would’ve just stuck with what worked.

For the life of me, I don’t know why they resurfaced a stripe of ice for the shootout tonight but didn’t last night. They’ve got some really good ice on those rinks and we got to see full periods of high speed hockey.

chimpfood
I liked what we did in the shootout yesterday, walking the puck in close and then ripping a shot. Today we just tried to get the goalie to bite on a move and push it around him which didn’t really work. I don’t know if this was because of the smaller goalie, guys wanting to switch it up, or what, but I wish we would’ve just stuck with what worked.

Funnily enough, Bancroft (who scored a shootout goal vs UMass) seemed to give away his strategy in the UMass post-game interview (though he did suggest it was specifically his strategy against bigger goalies). I imagine the ASU goalie was aware of the move he used the night before.

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.

Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can’t afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn’t increase.

you had 3 chances to beat ASU and we tied one.. in theory we could tie and win next week and still beat them in the h2h..

The better teaam for long stretches, but they are a bit more dangerous when you make mistakes.

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.

Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can’t afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn’t increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

Trotsky

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.

Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can’t afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn’t increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

At the risk of sounding entirely tautological, I think we're gonna wind up where we deserve to wind up. If we play well in the conference down the stretch, we'll be in the hunt.

Dafatone

Trotsky

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.

Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can’t afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn’t increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

At the risk of sounding entirely tautological, I think we're gonna wind up where we deserve to wind up. If we play well in the conference down the stretch, we'll be in the hunt.

To quote that ancient philosopher Buckaroo Banzai, "...no matter where you go, there you are."

This is where the weakness of the conference really hurts. We are Harvard’s only win. Repeat that-H has one f-ing win!!! That hurts us in many ways. But generally, as mentioned above, we can’t afford to lose to anyone but Q and must win some of these OOC games.

This is where the weakness of the conference really hurts. We are Harvard’s only win. Repeat that-H has one f-ing win!!! That hurts us in many ways. But generally, as mentioned above, we can’t afford to lose to anyone but Q and must win some of these OOC games.

boy you were really serious about repeating that

Chris H82

Dafatone

Trotsky

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

Dafatone
Two ties on neutral ice against higher ranked OOC teams is just fine by me.

It’s okay, but we are on the outside looking in. We aren’t going to make the NCAAs by treading water. I thought Cornell played decently this weekend overall. To me, that is the good news. But I think we are less likely to make the NCAAs after this weekend than we were prior—we really need to start winning games.

I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight, but our RPI is higher than it was before this weekend. We're 3-0-2 out of conference against a pretty tough out of conference schedule.

If we play well in the rest of the season, we'll be in the hunt for a tournament spot.

Our RPI did improve from this weekend. However, because we are down in 21st, we can’t afford many more weekends of slight improvement. We need bigger jumps. Therefore, while our RPI improved, I think our odds of making the NCAAs didn’t increase.

It may be more the case that we can't afford to lose to any bad team, which means we have to sweep the rest of the conference slate except Q, which is practically impossible. We will get unlucky one night; it happens.

OTOH, our opponents in that 12-20 belt may all shit the bed and let us back in.

At the risk of sounding entirely tautological, I think we're gonna wind up where we deserve to wind up. If we play well in the conference down the stretch, we'll be in the hunt.

To quote that ancient philosopher Buckaroo Banzai, "...no matter where you go, there you are."

So What?

Big Deal.

Dafatone
I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight,

don't know what you're looking at - but the Pairwise literally updates on CHN as each result comes in. It's recalculated on the fly. It did so tonight, like every other night.

Our RPI is a function of our win % and strength of schedule. It does not matter how our wins and losses are distributed among our opponents. All that matters is the number of wins and losses. Beating Q and losing to Yale is the same as beating Yale and losing to Q.*

*except for the “quality win bonus, though I think that’s a minor factor

adamw

Dafatone
I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight,

don't know what you're looking at - but the Pairwise literally updates on CHN as each result comes in. It's recalculated on the fly. It did so tonight, like every other night.

It wasn't USCHO/CHN, but it was the rink. There was a noticeable delay after the game ended, so some intern forgot to hit send.

ugarte
boy you were really serious about repeating that

Yep. I’m from the anyone but Harvard school

adamw

Dafatone
I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight,

don't know what you're looking at - but the Pairwise literally updates on CHN as each result comes in. It's recalculated on the fly. It did so tonight, like every other night.

Thanks for the info. I think our rpi went down very slightly after this tie, which confuses me, but I don't quite remember what we were at beforehand, so I'm probably just mistaken.

Dafatone

adamw

Dafatone
I think we're definitely in better shape now than we were. Uscho/chn don't seem interested in updating the pairwise tonight,

don't know what you're looking at - but the Pairwise literally updates on CHN as each result comes in. It's recalculated on the fly. It did so tonight, like every other night.

Thanks for the info. I think our rpi went down very slightly after this tie, which confuses me, but I don't quite remember what we were at beforehand, so I'm probably just mistaken.

Could also be other former opponents losing.

arugula

ugarte
boy you were really serious about repeating that

Yep. I’m from the anyone but Harvard school

UConn up 1-0 over that team we love to hate late in the 1st.

Yea not sure many people think the same about ASU. Glad your son in law is happy though

marty

arugula

ugarte
boy you were really serious about repeating that

Yep. I’m from the anyone but Harvard school

UConn up 1-0 over that team we love to hate late in the 1st.

UConn wins 4-2. Since beating us, Harvard has lost six in a row being outscored 24-10.