Alumni in the pros 23-24

jtwcornell91
Brianne Jenner '15 is on the roster for Canada in the upcoming IIHF Women's World Championship in Utica (only a 2 hour drive from Ithaca):

[www.cbc.ca]

Apparently, she also plays for Ottawa in the new Professional Women's Hockey League, which I just learned did not bother to choose nicknames or logos for its teams before starting play this season.

Kristin O’Neill and Jamie Bourbannais also are on the Team Canada roster and are both playing in the PWHL.

(The US roster won’t be announced until the end of the month, but Rory Guilday, Izzy Daniel and Annelies Bergmann will all be at the selection camp. Edit: So will Grace Dwyer.)

[teamusa.usahockey.com]

Jeff Malott is on a tear in the AHL. He has seven goals and four assists in his past seven games including a hat trick last Wednesday against Anthony Angello and Milwaukee.

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Jeff Malott is on a tear in the AHL. He has seven goals and four assists in his past seven games including a hat trick last Wednesday against Anthony Angello and Milwaukee.

If he were playing for a team in a rebuild phase, he would've gotten some additional NHL games, i feel like. Oh well, he at least has one game under his belt

Does this count? One that got away.


[www.prohockeyrumors.com]

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Does this count? One that got away.


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pretty sure he got kicked out for doing some not so great stuff so I’m not too heart broken.

chimpfood

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Does this count? One that got away.


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pretty sure he got kicked out for doing some not so great stuff so I’m not too heart broken.

huh. i thought he was unhappy with his ice time.

chimpfood

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Does this count? One that got away.


[www.prohockeyrumors.com]

pretty sure he got kicked out for doing some not so great stuff so I’m not too heart broken.

Kicked off the hockey team or expelled from Cornell?

ugarte

chimpfood

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Does this count? One that got away.


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pretty sure he got kicked out for doing some not so great stuff so I’m not too heart broken.

huh. i thought he was unhappy with his ice time.

could be, I don’t know for sure but the fact that he left at the same time as joe Howe and Ben Tupker backs up what I’ve heard.

BearLover

chimpfood

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Does this count? One that got away.


[www.prohockeyrumors.com]

pretty sure he got kicked out for doing some not so great stuff so I’m not too heart broken.

Kicked off the hockey team or expelled from Cornell?

I would assume just kicked off the team but it’s all rumors really. Only reason that I believe them is because it explains joe Howe leaving after his freshman year and not joining another team, ertel leaving after his freshman year despite playing almost every day, and ben tupker leaving a better team where he played everyday with his brother to go to union.

chimpfood

BearLover

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Does this count? One that got away.


[www.prohockeyrumors.com]

pretty sure he got kicked out for doing some not so great stuff so I’m not too heart broken.

Kicked off the hockey team or expelled from Cornell?

I would assume just kicked off the team but it’s all rumors really. Only reason that I believe them is because it explains joe Howe leaving after his freshman year and not joining another team, ertel leaving after his freshman year despite playing almost every day, and ben tupker leaving a better team where he played everyday with his brother to go to union.

This post doesn’t make any sense without explaining what the rumor is …

Ben Tupker graduated from Cornell & is playing as a graduate student at Union.

And hes their captain. I doubt they would've made him their captain if his character was in doubt

I heard that some guys were kicked off for doing coke at a party, tupker transferred after his junior year, hence Zach being here alone for a season.

Ben Tupker graduated with honors from ILR

chimpfood
I heard that some guys were kicked off for doing coke at a party, tupker transferred after his junior year, hence Zach being here alone for a season.

Hey Chimbrain, enough with your uninformed nonsense. Ever hear of defamation of character?

scoop85

chimpfood
I heard that some guys were kicked off for doing coke at a party, tupker transferred after his junior year, hence Zach being here alone for a season.

Hey Chimbrain, enough with your uninformed nonsense. Ever hear of defamation of character?

Probably 10-20% of Cornell students, and 75+% of members of certain frats/sororities, “do coke at a party” at some point. Also, a number of players leave the hockey team/graduate early every year, for a variety of reasons. Unless chimp has information that is a bit less, ahem, circumstantial than what he has offered up, I will consider this pure speculation. Tupker in particular likely had nothing to do with it, even if it were true—and the fact chimp is citing Tupker’s situation as related calls into question the whole thing, IMO. BTW, Schafer praised Tupker as a great kid after he was at Union.

Again, not saying it’s true, it just explains things that I didn’t have an explanation for otherwise. And I would say there is a difference between just doing coke at a party and getting caught doing coke at a party when you are the most recognizable students on campus, it would be a terrible look for the team. Obviously I hope that this is not the reason that these guys left but does anyone know if howes departure was ever explained? Not saying that with lack of another explanation that he did coke or anything, just curious.

I figured Howe wanted to play and realized Shane had usurped him.

Dafatone
I figured Howe wanted to play and realized Shane had usurped him.

yeah, just strikes me as a strange move to leave a team because you want to play and then never join another team.

I don't think chimpfood's post is totally without merit, although I won't comment on whether the drug story is true or not. I meant to post about this at some point and the mention of Howe jogged my memory.

Within the past year, I met a recent alumnus who was on one of the other athletic teams on campus and was somewhat close with enough of the guys on the hockey team in the 2021-22 season. Now as some of you probably know, athletes have plenty of mixers and other social events together during the academic year so I'd say this person was credible and he/she had no reason to lie or make up stories.

We were talking about the performance of the hockey team this season and the topic of Shane came up. I commented how it's amazing that Shane, who had been the third string goaltender his first year, rose to become the starter due to injuries and the poor performance of the two guys ahead of him. When I mentioned Howe in particular, this person quickly responded that it wasn't just injuries but also something he did off the ice that violated school policy or local laws (he/she didn't elaborate) that resulted in his being kicked off the team along with at least one other player at the time.

Regardless of the circumstances, I'm glad we've had Shane in net for the better part of the past three seasons

chimpfood

Dafatone
I figured Howe wanted to play and realized Shane had usurped him.

yeah, just strikes me as a strange move to leave a team because you want to play and then never join another team.

Huh. I didn't realize he wasn't playing at all.

Iceberg
I don't think chimpfood's post is totally without merit, although I won't comment on whether the drug story is true or not. I meant to post about this at some point and the mention of Howe jogged my memory.

Within the past year, I met a recent alumnus who was on one of the other athletic teams on campus and was somewhat close with enough of the guys on the hockey team in the 2021-22 season. Now as some of you probably know, athletes have plenty of mixers and other social events together during the academic year so I'd say this person was credible and he/she had no reason to lie or make up stories.

We were talking about the performance of the hockey team this season and the topic of Shane came up. I commented how it's amazing that Shane, who had been the third string goaltender his first year, rose to become the starter due to injuries and the poor performance of the two guys ahead of him. When I mentioned Howe in particular, this person quickly responded that it wasn't just injuries but also something he did off the ice that violated school policy or local laws (he/she didn't elaborate) that resulted in his being kicked off the team along with at least one other player at the time.

Regardless of the circumstances, I'm glad we've had Shane in net for the better part of the past three seasons

For what it’s worth: following the 2021-22 season, four players left the team prior to using their four years of eligibility: Howe, Ertel, and Dan Mcyntire (all freshmen), and B. Tupker (graduated early).

Pretty much every rumor I have heard about Cornell hockey players for the last 40 years has been uncorroborated if not exposed later as deliberately malicious.

Another shootout winner for Malott on Friday. Traditional celebration

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The Jets are getting blown out 6-1 by the Isles (halfway through the 3rd), but Barron is going for the Gordie Howe hat trick with an assist and a fight already under his belt. The "fight" wasn't much to to write home about, but the video is here:
[bleacherreport.com]

Probably frustrated because the season kept getting canceled.

Wow those are some bold, completely unsubstantiated projections. I was in the Greek system and never knew of or saw anyone “doing coke” at a party. I don’t even think it was a thing when I was in school. Way to perpetuate the rumors that all Greeks like to do is party though.

ER
Wow those are some bold, completely unsubstantiated projections. I was in the Greek system and never knew of or saw anyone “doing coke” at a party. I don’t even think it was a thing when I was in school. Way to perpetuate the rumors that all Greeks like to do is party though.

When I was a Greek, coke was something you mixed with rum to get your date drunk.

Seriously though, while there are certainly bad actors in the Greek system, helping manage a small enterprise in college, helped me later in my career. You get out, what you put in.

ER
Wow those are some bold, completely unsubstantiated projections. I was in the Greek system and never knew of or saw anyone “doing coke” at a party. I don’t even think it was a thing when I was in school. Way to perpetuate the rumors that all Greeks like to do is party though.

Not sure when you attended Cornell, but I know for a fact there are multiple fraternities and sororities where doing coke is commonplace. There is nothing unique about Cornell in this respect. You put a bunch of rich kids who like to party in one place, that’s what you’re gonna get.

BearLover

ER
Wow those are some bold, completely unsubstantiated projections. I was in the Greek system and never knew of or saw anyone “doing coke” at a party. I don’t even think it was a thing when I was in school. Way to perpetuate the rumors that all Greeks like to do is party though.

Not sure when you attended Cornell, but I know for a fact there are multiple fraternities and sororities where doing coke is commonplace. There is nothing unique about Cornell in this respect. You put a bunch of rich kids who like to party in one place, that’s what you’re gonna get.

And, dare i say it, it's not a huge deal, scandal, or outrage.

Watching the replay of last night's Lehigh Valley versus Bridgeport game. Both Bardreau and Kubiak playing for Bridgeport.

Kubiak was referred to as a "veteran player." Really?

Jeff Hopkins '82
Watching the replay of last night's Lehigh Valley versus Bridgeport game. Both Bardreau and Kubiak playing for Bridgeport.

Kubiak was referred to as a "veteran player." Really?

He's been in the AHL since 2017, so, yeah?

ugarte

Jeff Hopkins '82
Watching the replay of last night's Lehigh Valley versus Bridgeport game. Both Bardreau and Kubiak playing for Bridgeport.

Kubiak was referred to as a "veteran player." Really?

He's been in the AHL since 2017, so, yeah?

I know, but I think of "veteran" as somebody in their mid-30's.

Pretty sure it is or would be to coach Schafer or any of the other varsity coaches. Engaging in illegal activity is a big deal.

ER
Pretty sure it is or would be to coach Schafer or any of the other varsity coaches. Engaging in illegal activity is a big deal.

i don't disagree. i'm speaking about the notion that regular cornell students might do this

Kristin O'Neill with 2 goals and an assist (so far) in Canada's game against Chechia in the Women's Worlds today. The announcers also mentioned that she went to Cornell "in nearby Ithaca."

Jacob MacDonald has been seeing some good ice time with the Sharks. He scored last night in a losing effort.

The Sharks have also been giving a fair amount of ice time to some new guy named Colin Graf. Name rings a bell. He was on the second line and had an assist.

Henry Thrun has been a regular on the Sharks blue line all season. So there is no accounting for taste. The Sharks GM, Mike Grier, is a former BU player.

Malone and zach tupker sign pro deals.

Malone to AHL, Tupker to ECHL

[cornellbigred.com]

Anybody know about what percentage of current NHL hockey players are college graduates? I would like to see how this number compares to the percentage of college graduates playing in other major professional sports.

osorojo
Anybody know about what percentage of current NHL hockey players are college graduates? I would like to see how this number compares to the percentage of college graduates playing in other major professional sports.

[collegehockeyinc.com]

Comparing hockey to other sports doesn’t make much sense. For example, almost 100% of NFL players are Americans who had no options besides playing NCAA football. Hockey is a worldwide sport where college the primary means of reaching the NHL only for a subset of players (mostly those hailing from the U.S.).

Maybe your question is specifically about those who earned their degree, not just attended college. I’m not sure what the point would be of measuring that either, though. The NFL allows players to leave college after three years, the NBA one, etc. Comparing these sports to hockey is yet another apples-to-oranges comparison.

There'd be a big story on this if Caitlin Clark got drafted.

One in four NHLers have been to college. Per AI:

Google AI answer to "nhl percentage college playrs"
Roughly 25% of NHL players have played college hockey, but the majority come from Major Juniors. In 2021–2022, 48 NCAA Division I schools had an alum playing in the NHL, which is a 65% increase from 2002–2003, when 21.1% of NHL players were NCAA alumni.
The NHL generally draws players from Major Juniors, with almost 50% playing in US or Canadian Major Junior, and the rest coming from European leagues.
The odds of making it to the NHL are around 5% or less, and players who aren't generational talents like Sidney Crosby or Connor McDavid may end up in junior or minor leagues for their entire careers.

FWIW.

billhoward
One in four NHLers have been to college.

The rest are from Quinnipiac.

Barron not playing for the jets in the playoffs after playing almost the entire regular season .

Apparently he is injured. Not sure how I missed that.

chimpfood
Apparently he is injured. Not sure how I missed that.

Yup. There goes pretty much my only rooting interest.

billhoward
One in four NHLers have been to college. Per AI:

Google AI answer to "nhl percentage college playrs"

The odds of making it to the NHL are around 5% or less, and players who aren't generational talents like Sidney Crosby or Connor McDavid may end up in junior or minor leagues for their entire careers.

FWIW.

Wow, it is good to know that I have a 1 in 20 chance (or less?) of making it to the NHL. It might be worth a shot at those odds. I realize that I am no Sidney Crosby or Connor McDavid and so I might end up in the minor leagues.

chimpfood
Apparently he is injured. Not sure how I missed that.

Yes, "lower body injury" in the last regular season game. Probably out about a week.

Assuming that’s so he’ll get back in. He was a constant in Winnipeg. Alumnus adjacent Adam Lowry is killing it for the Jets.

Maybe the near-binary choice made by this near-sentient researcher described it as superstars or nobodies who drift back to the juniors. There is a reasonable number of college drafted college players who may have ~5-year NHL careers punctuated by one or two trips back to the minors. You make money that the majority of your college classmates 1-5 years out do not.

billhoward
One in four NHLers have been to college. Per AI:

Google AI answer to "nhl percentage college playrs"
Roughly 25% of NHL players have played college hockey, but the majority come from Major Juniors. In 2021–2022, 48 NCAA Division I schools had an alum playing in the NHL, which is a 65% increase from 2002–2003, when 21.1% of NHL players were NCAA alumni.
The NHL generally draws players from Major Juniors, with almost 50% playing in US or Canadian Major Junior, and the rest coming from European leagues.
The odds of making it to the NHL are around 5% or less, and players who aren't generational talents like Sidney Crosby or Connor McDavid may end up in junior or minor leagues for their entire careers.

FWIW.

AI is wrong. Go figure. The number is over 30% now.

[www.amny.com]

Nice mention of Brian Hayward by Patrick Roy, talking about goalie tandems as he made a switch to Sorokin.

Amidst a decision to change goalies during their first-round series against the Carolina Hurricanes, New York Islanders head coach Patrick Roy was reminded of an old analogy made by his former goaltending coach with the Montreal Canadiens, Francois Allaire, while texting with his dad on Thursday morning ahead of Game 3.

Allaire would call Roy’s backup, Brian Hayward, a Cadillac. A smooth, dependable car that helped create one of the best goalie tandems alongside Roy from 1986-1990, featuring three William Jennings Trophies, which is awarded annually to the netminding duo that allows the fewest goals in the NHL.