University of Minnesota Duluth @ Cornell , 10/27/23

Duplicate Thread becoming first UMD game thread
(Thanks for idea Trotsky)

Cornell lines for tonight:

Minn-Duluth has quite an offense.

2-2 MTU
5-5 NMU
8-5 NMU
4-0 Bemidji
5-4 Bemidji

4.8 GPG.

UMD has 10 draft picks, 3 of whom are grad students. And they will have played five games by the time they roll into Lynah next week. Cornell will be at a talent, age, and experience disadvantage. Hopefully we can win one of the two games.

Well.

Trotsky
Well.

Vive la Red!

Cornell "ready to go."

The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

BearLover

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is the Academic Index.

ugarte

BearLover

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is the Academic Index.

I don’t think this is true. Certainly not for the hockey team during this era of COVID eligibility.

dbilmes
Cornell "ready to go."

The safeword is "Weder."

“We’re ready to be taught some lessons from a good hockey team, and we’re ready to start toughening up.”

ugarte

BearLover

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is the Academic Index.

No point in admitting guys who are just going to flunk out. We mostly* aren't the SEC yet.

* _{Never change, Dartmouth.}

Trotsky

ugarte

BearLover

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is the Academic Index.

No point in admitting guys who are just going to flunk out. We mostly* aren't the SEC yet.

* _{Never change, Dartmouth.}

It’s almost impossible to flunk out if you put in a modicum of effort. Especially on an athletics team, where teammates take the same classes and study/do problem sets together.

BearLover

Trotsky

ugarte

BearLover

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is the Academic Index.

No point in admitting guys who are just going to flunk out. We mostly* aren't the SEC yet.

* _{Never change, Dartmouth.}

It’s almost impossible to flunk out if you put in a modicum of effort.

Like I said,

ugarte

BearLover

upprdeck
The Ivy life is all about opportunities but when it comes to the sports they put many of their teams in a huge hole with the extra restrictions they put on them.

Starting later, less practice time, and then like fball, not letting them get some better kids to compete because they can't play for titles.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is not allowing grad students to play.

At the moment, by far the biggest disadvantage to the Ivies is the Academic Index.

I think the coaches would rather have practice time then worry about a few kids who might get an extra back with injuries and stuff

Sorry folks, I meant this to reply to BearLovers post. Semi-rookie mistake...

I live in Ann Arbor, one of the epicenters of the academic/athletic divide. Your bar about not being able to flunk out does not factor in things like this (with full positivity spin):

[mgoblue.com]


The bar for athletes at a school like Michigan is totally different than at Cornell. After living in Ann Arbor for 10+ years, I can see the dark side and I'm happy about that.

Just updated the thread to have the lines up top - don’t see UMDs released anywhere yet tho

This link appears to work for Treason Radio.

Catalano, Donaldson, and Mack healthy scratches. We are deep at forward.

Woooo Heaf with da pipes again

Wow. Either he's nearer the mic or he's been working out.

Seger only senior on the ice.

12-4 in shots favoring Cornell. Offense has looked great against Duluth's defenders so far although I'm sure Sandelin isn't too happy about his guys being generally outperformed in their own zone

2-0 after one, the Red carry almost a minute of PP into the second period, Bancroft hit the pipe in the first minute of the PP and we could easily be up 3-0. Dominating SOG too.

nmcorm83
Sorry folks, I meant this to reply to BearLovers post. Semi-rookie mistake...

I live in Ann Arbor, one of the epicenters of the academic/athletic divide. Your bar about not being able to flunk out does not factor in things like this (with full positivity spin):

[mgoblue.com]


The bar for athletes at a school like Michigan is totally different than at Cornell. After living in Ann Arbor for 10+ years, I can see the dark side and I'm happy about that.

Cornellian in Ann Arbor for 10 years as well. I could care less about the wolverines. “Ivy of the Midwest” my arse.

ugarte
2-0 after one, the Red carry almost a minute of PP into the second period, Bancroft hit the pipe in the first minute of the PP and we could easily be up 3-0. Dominating SOG too.

3-1 after 2.
Bancroft pinballs one into the crease that hits Walsh before finding the net. Fegaras gives UMD a PP and when Shane dives and whiffs trying to poke a loose puck away Steeves roofs it to close to 3-1. UMD was a lot more spirited after the goal and we'll see what the break does.

I like how quickly we are moving the puck through the middle. Speed kills; quick development makes things happen.

O'Leary roofs a pretty backhand on a 3-on-2 to go up 4-1 with 5:23 left.

Sometimes I get frustrated when a puck bounces around in front of the opposing goalie and nobody can get a clean stick on it. My brain tells me it only happens to us. But right before the breakaway UMD was putting the pressure on and it was the Bulldogs that couldn't corral it. It was a nice reminder for my stupid brain.

That's all I can ask for. 4-1 final. Played well in all periods. The kids are alright.

hell yes LGR

Walsh looked great tonight, good pressure both ways - In fact that entire line looked really solid whenever they were out together

Playing well against a good team is a nice way to start the year with 10 freshmen.

Guys who I thought especially distinguished themselves tonight: O'Leary, Bancroft, Walsh, Shane, Castagna, Seger.

Crowd sounded good, too.

4-1 win against the #11 team when they've already got 5 games under their belt and its our first is about as good a start as we can ask for, especially since the context of these games historically seems to give us trouble.

Cornell played a great opening game. But the crowd was so sparse, especially on the student side. Section A was totally empty; D and E were half empty. Only B was standing. Student attendance was trending in an upward direction last year, so this is concerning. Is something (fall break?) going on this weekend or should I expect poor attendance this season?

EDIT: attendance is listed at 4,316 in the box score, which is higher than Lynah’s capacity. Looked more like 3,316. Maybe many with tickets just didn’t show, which would be more promising than the tickets just not being sold.

I saw some empty seats when it started but now many after the 1st period. I doubt 1000 didnt show up considering how many tickets were bought by non season ticket holders this year just for this game.

BearLover
Is something (fall break?) going on this weekend or should I expect poor attendance this season?

Family visit weekend + Halloween parties.

upprdeck
I saw some empty seats when it started but now many after the 1st period. I doubt 1000 didnt show up considering how many tickets were bought by non season ticket holders this year just for this game.

Well that’s good. It was tough to judge from the telecast. I think some of the shots of the crowd must have been early in the game before everyone arrived or towards the end after people had left early. Though, even halfway through the game there were shots of the bench where most of the rows behind the bench looked half-empty. And Section A appeared empty the entire game.

As to the game itself, it was obviously an extremely good opening game. UMD had one 4x3 rush towards the end but other than that I don’t recall a single odd-man chance given up by Cornell the entire game. Almost no defensive breakdowns despite half of the defensemen being freshmen. Schafer clearly thinks very highly of the freshmen in general; Robertson and Walsh played on the first PP unit and Kraft, Castagna, and Fegaras played on the second unit. Stanley played on the PK. Walsh also centered the PK and looks like a great player in general. Hopefully Mack isn’t hurt; he played (I think) every game he was healthy last year. Same for Donaldson, who played almost every game when healthy last year. If these guys were healthy scratches then that says even more about the freshmen beating them out.

Will someone update that fucking score against BU from 217 days ago?

dbilmes
Cornell "ready to go."

Prescriptive grammar is classist... prescriptive grammar is classist... prescriptive grammar is...

Crowd was good last night... I swear BearLover just loves to reminisce on "the good old days" where people would camp outside Lynah.

Only section that wasn't basically full was the end of the student section

Big Dingus
Crowd was good last night... I swear BearLover just loves to reminisce on "the good old days" where people would camp outside Lynah.

Only section that wasn't basically full was the end of the student section

I was happy with the crowds last year. Section A did not look good last night. Hopefully it is better tonight. The Lynah crowd is the most unique part of Cornell hockey and the best recruiting tool we have. Unfortunately, the crowds were already beginning to trend in a negative direction by the time I was a student. I’m glad you thought the crowd was fuller and livelier than it appeared on the broadcast.

Big Dingus
Crowd was good last night... I swear BearLover just loves to reminisce on "the good old days" where people would camp outside Lynah.

Only section that wasn't basically full was the end of the student section

I sit in on the A side of section B near the cowbell and I do have to say not only was A basically empty, but they were also sitting down and very low energy - A used to fill up even a couple years ago during Covid restrictions so it’s not a promising sign. Although, it was parents weekend and Halloween party time so that definitely contributed to it… (UMD student section was sold out despite A being empty)

I’m gonna work on distributing cheer sheets again before Harvard weekend to hopefully bolster the energy

Also a decent portion of section B left a bit early (probably for Halloween stuff tho)

Or… maybe they got annoyed at the student yelling DROP THE PUCK for 20 minutes straight

Trotsky
Guys who I thought especially distinguished themselves tonight: O'Leary, Bancroft, Walsh, Shane, Castagna, Seger.

When Grady says “Castagna” my brain instantly converts that to “Can’t stand ya” from the Seinfeld library cop episode.

Dunc
Although, it was parents weekend and Halloween party time

I'm sorry, I know I'm old, but since when do parties at Cornell, Halloween or otherwise, get going before 10 PM?

scoop85

Trotsky
Guys who I thought especially distinguished themselves tonight: O'Leary, Bancroft, Walsh, Shane, Castagna, Seger.

When Grady says “Castagna” my brain instantly converts that to “Can’t stand ya” from the Seinfeld library cop episode.

Mandatory: Seinfeld sucks.

Grady reversed himself: during the exhibitions it rhymed with banana. Now it rhymes with campagna.

Trotsky

scoop85

Trotsky
Guys who I thought especially distinguished themselves tonight: O'Leary, Bancroft, Walsh, Shane, Castagna, Seger.

When Grady says “Castagna” my brain instantly converts that to “Can’t stand ya” from the Seinfeld library cop episode.

Mandatory: Seinfeld sucks.

Grady reversed himself: during the exhibitions it rhymed with banana. Now it rhymes with campagna.

I could swear I heard vanini actually say "Costanza" at one point during Fridays game. Anyone else hear that?

abmarks

Trotsky

scoop85

Trotsky
Guys who I thought especially distinguished themselves tonight: O'Leary, Bancroft, Walsh, Shane, Castagna, Seger.

When Grady says “Castagna” my brain instantly converts that to “Can’t stand ya” from the Seinfeld library cop episode.

Mandatory: Seinfeld sucks.

Grady reversed himself: during the exhibitions it rhymed with banana. Now it rhymes with campagna.

I could swear I heard vanini actually say "Costanza" at one point during Fridays game. Anyone else hear that?

Vanini, of all people, should know to pronounce it correctly.

abmarks

Trotsky

scoop85

Trotsky
Guys who I thought especially distinguished themselves tonight: O'Leary, Bancroft, Walsh, Shane, Castagna, Seger.

When Grady says “Castagna” my brain instantly converts that to “Can’t stand ya” from the Seinfeld library cop episode.

Mandatory: Seinfeld sucks.

Grady reversed himself: during the exhibitions it rhymed with banana. Now it rhymes with campagna.

I could swear I heard vanini actually say "Costanza" at one point during Fridays game. Anyone else hear that?

It was your imagination as that would have set me off.