Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by Mike
Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Mike (---.prenhall.com)
Date: June 03, 2003 02:57PM
Following the lead of Michigan and Michigan State, the Canadiens and Oilers have agreed to play an outdoor hockey game at Commonwealth Stadium, in Edmonton, in November... The game has been approved by the NHL and the head of the Players' Association has also indicated that the game can go on...
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Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: David Harding 72 (---.client.attbi.com)
Date: June 06, 2003 10:50PM
Since reading about the Michigan - Michigan State game two years ago I have occasionally wondered how a Cornell-Harvard game at Schoellkopf Field would fare.
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Robb Newman (---.169.127.238.ts46v-08.otn-c2.ftwrth.tx.charter.)
Date: June 07, 2003 08:55AM
Well, for one thing, you'd need an impressive array of slinghots, trebuchets, catapults, and potato guns to get any sort of aquatic creatures onto the ice...
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: June 07, 2003 05:31PM
Only in the freakin' Ivy League would you get a post on a hockey forum that refers to "trebuchets", not to mention have people who even know what it is.
It makes one proud.
JH
It makes one proud.
JH
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: bigggreddd77 (---.painewebber.com)
Date: June 24, 2003 09:52AM
ummmm...I know I can just look it up...but I feel the need to post this...
uhhhh...what's a trebuchet?
uhhhh...what's a trebuchet?
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: peterg (---.danicacomputing.com)
Date: June 24, 2003 04:33PM
It's one of those lovely machines that was used to hurl stones (and, I suspect, other heavy or burning objects) into and against the doors and walls of fortified positions. There was a show on NOVA that talked about these, among other "ancient" weapons. Fish would probably have to be weighted to get the appropriate distance. THAT would be interesting....
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: peterg (---.danicacomputing.com)
Date: June 24, 2003 04:34PM
Oops. If I remember, historians puzzle over the exact design. Maybe the engineers here know about this....
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: CowbellGuy (---.biotech.cornell.edu)
Date: June 24, 2003 04:47PM
Basically a big counter-weighted arm that flings things when released.
Trebuchets
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: June 24, 2003 05:04PM
It can't move without being disassembled and is only available in the Imperial... oh wait. That's in Age of Kings.
Re: Trebuchets
Posted by: French Rage (---.northgrum.com)
Date: June 24, 2003 05:10PM
[Q]It can't move without being disassembled and is only available in the Imperial... oh wait. That's in Age of Kings.[/Q]
Yeah, but get a few and it destroys a castle in like 10 seconds.
Yeah, but get a few and it destroys a castle in like 10 seconds.
trebuchet
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.dip.t-dialin.net)
Date: June 24, 2003 05:43PM
I always was a bit confused about the difference between a trebuchet and a catapult. At some point I had the impression the thing you usually see in the movies as a catapult was actually a trebuchet. (Incidentally, it also looked rather inefficient, since firing it always seemed to involve cutting a rope with your sword, which seems like it would make it difficult to fire a second time.)
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: June 24, 2003 06:00PM
Actually, if you're a fan of Junkyard Wars on The Learning Channel you may have seen one in action. I believe that a trebuchet uses a counterweight where a catapult just uses the tension in the rope, but don't quote me on that.
You don't cut the rope, you release it with some sort of latch. The wheel you see on the bottom of the picture is used to take the slack out of the rope and pull the counterweight to the raised position. Release the latch, the weight drops, firing the projectile.
JH
You don't cut the rope, you release it with some sort of latch. The wheel you see on the bottom of the picture is used to take the slack out of the rope and pull the counterweight to the raised position. Release the latch, the weight drops, firing the projectile.
JH
trebuchet
Posted by: Keith K '93 (---.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
Date: June 24, 2003 09:40PM
Pretty sure that distinction is right Jeff.
As for cutting the rope in a movie... would it be dramatic to show a guy releasing a latch?
As for cutting the rope in a movie... would it be dramatic to show a guy releasing a latch?
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Robb (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: June 25, 2003 06:36AM
Yep - a catapult uses a spring of some kind (wound rope is pretty typical) and a trebuchet uses a counterweight. I have no idea which was developed first or which was ultimately more effective - there would definitely be benefits and detriments to both.
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: jeh25 (---.public.uconn.edu)
Date: June 26, 2003 01:40PM
Jeff Hopkins '82 wrote:
Only in the freakin' Ivy League would you get a post on a hockey forum that refers to "trebuchets", not to mention have people who even know what it is.
It makes one proud.
JH
Fuck. At MIT, they could probably build one for you the same day....
Oh wait. MIT. Hockey Fora. Never gonna happen. Nevermind.
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: CUlater (---.ambacinc.com)
Date: June 26, 2003 01:49PM
[Q]Oh wait. MIT. Hockey Fora. Never gonna happen. Nevermind.[/Q]
Is that supposed to be an uncalled-for shot at Kyle?
Is that supposed to be an uncalled-for shot at Kyle?
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: June 27, 2003 08:23AM
Actually, I read a web page which said that the trebuchet was developed later and pretty much made the catapult obsolete. The heavy counterweights could impart more energy to the projectile than a tensioned rope, allowing them to fire heavier objects from further away.
"We can build this giant badger, and..."
JH
"We can build this giant badger, and..."
JH
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: Jon Getty '96 (---.ece.ucsb.edu)
Date: June 27, 2003 06:45PM
A ballista would probably be more efficient for the weight we're talking about. Think giant crossbow...
Re: Outdoor Hockey....
Posted by: jeh25 (---.public.uconn.edu)
Date: July 08, 2003 09:50AM
CUlater '89 wrote:
[Q]Oh wait. MIT. Hockey Fora. Never gonna happen. Nevermind.[/Q]
Is that supposed to be an uncalled-for shot at Kyle?
No. Not at all. It was a uncalled for shot at the Beaver's athletic prowess.
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