goaltending possibilities

I'm gonna go out on a bit of a limb here and say that this is the weekend that Schafer finally kills the traditional 'goalie rotation' that he's set up. He said a couple weeks ago that he would pick a goalie for the playoffs and that he already "had a pretty good idea" who it'd be. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that it's Underhill? He's the senior, it's his last shot, and although Lenny may have lightly better stats, Undy's played the better teams (Clarkson of Clarkson/SLU, Harvard (sucks) of Harvard/Brown twice, Dartmouth this past weekend).

Why this weekend? Well, given that Schaefer considers Underhill our #1, he would certainly want to pair him against Clarkson as opposed to the lowly SLU (this year at least). Why Saturday? Why bc it's Senior night of course and it's just not right to play the frosh goalie on Sr Night . Finally, bc if Undy's gonna be expected to do back to back starts in the playoffs, he should probably have done it once or twice recently. I wouldn't rule out LeNevue playing Friday, but I think, starting on Saturday, Underhill's our man for the rest of the way... and that's fine by me.

Just my $0.02.

-Fred, DeltaOne81 '03

Of course, Undy did play Senior Night when Burt was a senior...

Yeah, I realized that, but as much as I appreciated Burt's efforts, I think everyone knew that Underhill was #1 and is/was the better goalie by a long shot. I'm not saying Senior Night is the only factor, the team comes first so you do what's best for the team, and last year that was playing Underhill.

But this year, as great as LeNevue's been, Underhill's still going to get the reins when crunch time comes (aka: the playoffs), and since the switch has to start some time, I dunno, everything seems to add up on this weekend.

Not playing the better, senior goalie on senior night, against the better opponent? I dunno, just sorta seems wrong. Not that Underhill would take it badly (nor should he), he's far to good of a sport for that, but it all just leads to a gut feeling of mine.

-Fred, DeltaOne81 '03

I've been told by a reliable source that the rotation will continue through (at least) this weekend. I'm going to guess that the order will be switched up so that Underhill can start on Senior Night.

It would be nice to have 2 10-game winning goalies in the same year, after all... When was the last time that happened?

For the Big Red... that's never happened.

Ok, damn good point, so I'm definitely routing for LeNevue to play Friday then and beat the pants off of SLU... with Underhill going the rest of the way this season and getting his 10th win Senior night... yeah, that'd be nice < drifts off to a land of lollypops and gumdrops >

I usually try to make a habit of not correcting people's spelling around here (especially because I then usually make an error of my own that people gleefully point out), but it's LeNeveu. It's pronounced /LEH-ne-vyoo/, so your spelling is intuitive, but not correct.

Just preparing y'all for three more years of spelling his name properly as we talk about his dominating goaltending performances.

Beeeej

> Just preparing y'all for three more years of spelling his name properly as we talk about his dominating goaltending performances.

Arthur Mintz told me a great story that this reminds me of.

He was announcing a red-white game, and a freshman had a bunch of points, and Arthur was pronouncing his name as he'd been told, with emphasis on the second syllable.

After the game, the kid -- very soft spoken and shy -- skated over and told him, "it's actually pronounced "NIEU-wen-dyk, and you're going to be saying it a lot."

I would vote for Schafer to continue the rotation all the way through the Quints. That would give David a game of post season experience and reward him for his incredible freshman season.

I agree that if Cornell gets to Lake Placid, Matt probably gets the nod for all the games thereafter.

Actually, it SHOULD be pronounced leh-ne-VOO, but I've had to listen to Paolini mispronounced for 3 years, so...

Yeah, and "Anbinder" should be pronounced /ahn-BIHN-der/ instead of /AN-bine-der/, but it ain't. Far as I know, Arthur and Grady go by what the players tell the coaches.

Beeeej

"It's spelled Sir Walter Luxury Yacht, but it's pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove."

That's a very good point. I guess we all know that Underhill is the man for the playoffs, and even though I've been riding shotgun in the LeNeveu bandwagon since Harvard I, it'd be nice to see Underhill beat a tough team on senior night. I do think LeNeveu should start Friday night, though - if you want to end the rotation and get Underhill his back-to-back starts, do it next weekend.

Damn, I hate that I'm missing senior night.

I hope it's not inferred that I'm mispronouncing Paolini's name as his father has told me that I'm one of the few that gets it right. As far as David's name, I haven't heard it that way (Leh-ne-VOO) at all from coaches, teammates, or the freshman phenom himself (unless he's holding out on me!). More along the lines of Leh-ne-VIEW which is in line with the actual spelling (LeneVEU). But if David corrects me, I'll gladly change my call on the air. After all, who would argue with the nation's GAA leader???

Arthur taught me a very easy but valuable lesson in my first or second year of broadcasting the games. When in doubt on the proper way to say someone's name, go to them and have them tell you how it's pronounced. That ploy backfired atleast once when Eddy Skazyk was asked that very question and said "however you guys want to say it." Phonetic spellings can be confusing at times, but straight from the horses mouth rarely steers you wrong.

Well, I suppose if former Pats QB Mike Taliaferro could pronounce his name "Tolliver," most anything goes.

My favorite is "Rich Meager" pronounced "Ma-HAR."

Of course, "Tony Hrkac" pronounced" "HER-cus" isn't bad, either.

LeNeveu -- he may be from Canada, but BC is pretty far from Quebec (or other French speaking parts of Canada like that little town up in the Cape Breton Highlands -- Cheticamp, was it?). Sure looks like it should be pronounced French-like, though.

I have to say I've been with your pronunciation since the get-go (Leh-ne-VIEW ). . .but if that doesn't catch on we could always just go with Lenny! Worked for Unddy. . .

While we're at it, what's with pronouncing the K in Knoepfli? I don't remember anyone ever saying Kyle K-Nopp.

Personal preferance??? Now that we're on to Knoepfli. . .we should nickname him "Special K." I mean it makes sense, most people don't know if you are supposed to pronounce the K or not. Hence the nickname "Special K."

Wow, I leave this thread alone for not even one day and it changed into a talk on nicknames... very impressive swing , not that I mind, and I'm particularly honored by the post from "Mr. Radio Guy" himself. If Underhill or LeNeveu (see, got it now ) were to post, I think I could consider my life complete (j/k).

Speaking of odd pronounciations, I'm always be partial to the 'Frenchy' names, such as Roy or Parent (can't even begin to phoenetically spell them - Wah, Paraaaw?). True, it's just their language, but there's gotta be something a little odd about ignoring the given sounds of the letters in the last half of any word, IMHO.

Rick and brother Terry(?) Meagher. (Maybe that's how you get the "Har."

> Meagher

OK, their 'h' makes it a little less silly.

Actually, it's Rick...either he or his brother Terry spent some time at Clarkson coaching with Cap Raeder I think...but I can't recall which "Ma-HAR" it was.

It's K-nop-fe-li! Like Monopoly!

So.. what is the correct way to say Paolini's name (since I am assuming that PAY-oh-Lee-nee is wrong?). Pow-lee-nee? I dunno.


Reek-o

Well, it's struck me as an incredibly Swiss-looking name (moreso if you change the oe to an ö) and in German you certainly pronounce the K. Actually, I find it interesting that the English approximation Ka-nop-fel-i has four syllables, while the German Knöp-fli has only two. Of course, if you really spell it with an oe in Swiss German, you'd get the three-sylable Kno-ep-fli. But my impression is that the diminutive 'li' is associated with an umlaut, so Knöpfli has to be the original Swiss name. (Literally, it means "little button", since "ein Knopf" means a knob or button; the standard German version would be Knöpfchen.)

Now for homework everyone practice saying "chüechichäschli".

-- Der Schweizermacher
«Aufs, jetzt, Knöpfli, schiess ein Tor ... schiess ein Tor ... schiess ein To-o-or!»

Rico wrote:

It's K-nop-fe-li! Like Monopoly!

Dude, you so stole that from Rich.

Guess I should clear up my post before I get tarred and feathered. I'm certainly not criticizing your pronunciation, as you do it the way the players and pronunciation guide say to, as you should. But as for Paolini, I could swear I remembered Sam, Sr. pronouncing it pah-o-LI-ni when Sam was a freshman. And regardless of who pronounces it what, that is the correct Italian way of pronouncing it. Ditto for David. I'm not contesting that he pronounces it LE-neh-VUE, but that name, in particular seems odd. Because if it was spelled LeNevue, it would at least sort of make sense, but since it's eu, it should be pronounced le-ne-vuhh, or well, like [www.jump-gate.com] . Anyway, I'll stop now.

At the risk of a little self-aggrandizing, I thought folks might enjoy this (it's in context, I promise):

October 25, 2000


The Top 6 Excuses Given by Patrick Roy for Ripping Two Doors Off Their Hinges and Threatening His Wife


6> "Her foot was in the crease!"

5> Heard her chanting "Eddie, Eddie!" in her sleep.

4> Overabundance of pent-up energy due to recent lack of body-checking in the bedroom, if you know what I mean.

3> "Just trying to kick-save a dinner roll into the dust bin."

2> "That rotating red light she put on our headboard would drive anyone nuts."


and Topfive.com's Number 1 Excuse Given by Patrick Roy for Ripping Two Doors Off Their Hinges and Threatening His Wife...


1> "She can't pronounce my @#$ing name!!"



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Well, I'm sure this isn't the way we would've liked it to happen for the first time, but it really does bear mentioning:

For the first time in its history, the Big Red has two 10-game winning goalies in a season.

Beeeej

First of all... how the hell did you figger that one out?!?! (Where is there a good source of info. about Cornell goalie stats throughout history? (with rankings, etc.)) (I *really* need to get a newer media guide -- the rankings section of my '83 version is becoming painfully obsolete!!!)

(EDIT: OK, I think I've solved that one... I finally did something that I shoulda done *long* ago -- I downloaded the "Cornell Records" section of the current media guide from the C.U. athletics site. Ahhhhhh! Yummy!)

Second, I was wondering about that -- thanks! I was hoping that Lenny would get his #10! (Through a *planned* start, though -- not *this* way...) Good for him!!

Third, how many Cornell freshman goalies have had 10 wins before?

(EDIT: Ummm... nevermind... I think I can answer that one myself now... (unless someone wants to do the work for me... heh-heh...))

Yep... in geek mode, again... (it means I'm starving... gotta go eat...)

Actually, I was just taking Bill's word for it that no Cornell tandem ever had a double 10-win season before. He did all the legwork, I just followed up after Lenny's tenth.

Beeeej

And Lenny finishes the season #1 in the nation in GAA and #4 in save percentage.

...except the season lasts another 5 weeks as far as the NCAA is concerned. But a nice achievement even with my nitpicking!