1967 CELEBRATION

Reception For 1967 NCAA Champion Men's Hockey Team Upcoming

What a weekend this could be.

Nice that cornell can post this notice on a board that the majority townie fans dont look at.

Maybe an email to season ticket holders to let them know of the event?

upprdeck
Nice that cornell can post this notice on a board that the majority townie fans dont look at.

Maybe an email to season ticket holders to let them know of the event?

I received an email about this today that was addressed to CHA members. I know that's not what you are looking for, but it's a little better than nothing.

The 1967 National Championship came just 10 years after the sport of ice hockey came to Cornell (Lynah rink opened). After the '67 Championship Team Cornell appeared in six of the next seven frozen fours. My how times have changed.

Hooking
The 1967 National Championship came just 10 years after the sport of ice hockey came to Cornell (Lynah rink opened). After the '67 Championship Team Cornell appeared in six of the next seven frozen fours. My how times have changed.

Among other changes, more schools added the sport and more schools stepped up to Div. I, thus increasing the competition for the good players. In addition, NHL expansion that began in 1967 raised the level of interest in hockey throughout the nationU.S. and greater efficiency meant more rinks, all of which added to the supply of good players.

mas1969

Hooking
The 1967 National Championship came just 10 years after the sport of ice hockey came to Cornell (Lynah rink opened). After the '67 Championship Team Cornell appeared in six of the next seven frozen fours. My how times have changed.

Among other changes, more schools added the sport and more schools stepped up to Div. I, thus increasing the competition for the good players. In addition, NHL expansion that began in 1967 raised the level of interest in hockey throughout the nationU.S. and greater efficiency meant more rinks, all of which added to the supply of good players.

Harkness, no need to say anything more.

Yep, Harkness. Compare the W-L record of the Cornell Men's Lacrosse Team the first year he coached it versus the team record the previous year. Pretty much the same players, but NOT the same team.

Hooking
Yep, Harkness. Compare the W-L record of the Cornell Men's Lacrosse Team the first year he coached it versus the team record the previous year. Pretty much the same players, but NOT the same team.

I always figured the huge class that he brought in for hockey played lax for him in the Spring, too.

I did not realize he was using the same old players. Wow.

Trotsky

Hooking
Yep, Harkness. Compare the W-L record of the Cornell Men's Lacrosse Team the first year he coached it versus the team record the previous year. Pretty much the same players, but NOT the same team.

I always figured the huge class that he brought in for hockey played lax for him in the Spring, too.

I did not realize he was using the same old players. Wow.

I was on that spring 1966 team. The players are only old NOW.

Only one hockey player was on that team - Harry Orr at midfield - but he was a force with a cannon underhand shot that started low but could have finished anywhere he wanted to put it. Lacrosse equivalent of the slapshot from the point.

Biggest difference on the 66-68 teams was Butch Hilliard, Lacrosse HOF player in the goal. Still returning was Bruce Cohen to score, and footballers Doug Zirkle, who was a horse at midfield and Ting Vanneman on defense. Ting was about 6'6" and famous for being one of the supports for the tower stack intended to disrupt Princeton placekicker Charlie Gogolak. Ned went 35-1. We should commission the guy who did "Touchdown the Bear" to put a statue of Ned by the stairs near the Lynah entrance.

Or maybe at the intersection of the central paths on the Arts Quad.

Harkness coached Cornell Men's Lacrosse for three years. His record was 35 wins, one loss.

TimV
Biggest difference on the 66-68 teams was Butch Hilliard, Lacrosse HOF player in the goal. Still returning was Bruce Cohen to score...

Cohen, a 1965 classmate of mine, missed the 1964 season with an injury, but continued in the old five-year engineering program and so remained eligible his fifth year as he did not get a degree. He was a mechanical engineer and Hilliard was an engineering physics major (don't make lax players like that anymore). Bruce is also a lacrosse HOF guy (led the Ivies in scoring all three years), and belongs in the pantheon of Cornell lacrosse greats. Wish he could have played three varsity years under Ned.

TimV
We should commission the guy who did "Touchdown the Bear" to put a statue of Ned by the stairs near the Lynah entrance.

There should absolutely be a statue of Ned by Lynah. Crowdfund it maybe?

TimV

Trotsky

Hooking
Yep, Harkness. Compare the W-L record of the Cornell Men's Lacrosse Team the first year he coached it versus the team record the previous year. Pretty much the same players, but NOT the same team.

I always figured the huge class that he brought in for hockey played lax for him in the Spring, too.

I did not realize he was using the same old players. Wow.

I was on that spring 1966 team. The players are only old NOW.

Only one hockey player was on that team - Harry Orr at midfield - but he was a force with a cannon underhand shot that started low but could have finished anywhere he wanted to put it. Lacrosse equivalent of the slapshot from the point.

Biggest difference on the 66-68 teams was Butch Hilliard, Lacrosse HOF player in the goal. Still returning was Bruce Cohen to score, and footballers Doug Zirkle, who was a horse at midfield and Ting Vanneman on defense. Ting was about 6'6" and famous for being one of the supports for the tower stack intended to disrupt Princeton placekicker Charlie Gogolak. Ned went 35-1. We should commission the guy who did "Touchdown the Bear" to put a statue of Ned by the stairs near the Lynah entrance.

Or maybe at the intersection of the central paths on the Arts Quad.

For the record, I LOVE posts like this. Thanks to TimV for sharing.

Al DeFlorio

TimV
Biggest difference on the 66-68 teams was Butch Hilliard, Lacrosse HOF player in the goal. Still returning was Bruce Cohen to score...

Cohen, a 1965 classmate of mine, missed the 1964 season with an injury, but continued in the old five-year engineering program and so remained eligible his fifth year as he did not get a degree. He was a mechanical engineer and Hilliard was an engineering physics major (don't make lax players like that anymore). Bruce is also a lacrosse HOF guy (led the Ivies in scoring all three years), and belongs in the pantheon of Cornell lacrosse greats. Wish he could have played three varsity years under Ned.

I thought Butch graduated from IEOR. But then again, many of us started out in engineering physics and switched later on, and OTOH, I'm like the guy in the joke about remembering the name of last night's restaurant,* so maybe I'm remembering wrong.

As for Harkness, everyone knows the only reason his lacrosse teams went 35-1 was because of his recruiting from Canada. Harry Orr (#19) was that good. Besides, those teams still weren't good enough to win a single NC, so let's not blow this out of proportion. (Thank you Bal'more. )

*Two altacockers, Marv and Moe, are talking.
Marv: "Boy, we ate in a great restaurant last night."
Moe: "Really? What's it called?"
Marv: "Let me think. What's the name of that flower?"
Moe: "Ummm. I don't know. Violet?"
Marv: "No, the red one."
Moe: "Carnation?"
Marv: "No, this one has thorns."
Moe: "Do you mean rose?"
Marv: "Yes, that's it. [shouting] Rose! What was the name of the place we ate last night?"

Swampy
I thought Butch graduated from IEOR.

Could be. Cornell alumni directory shows BSENGR '68 but MEE '69. Still, not many engineers of any flavor today.

Swampy
Besides, those teams still weren't good enough to win a single NC, so let's not blow this out of proportion. (Thank you Bal'more. )

Yes. Yes we were... We just didn't. Because there was no tournament then.

TimV

Swampy
Besides, those teams still weren't good enough to win a single NC, so let's not blow this out of proportion. (Thank you Bal'more. )

Yes. Yes we were... We just didn't. Because there was no tournament then.

And who won the first championship when they finally did decide it on-field, instead of just picking from those Maryland schools?

I guess Coach Moran and the team showed all.

As an aside, he's written his autobiography. They're having an 80^th birthday celebration and book signing the same day as the 1967 reception.

Jim Hyla

TimV

Swampy
Besides, those teams still weren't good enough to win a single NC, so let's not blow this out of proportion. (Thank you Bal'more. )

Yes. Yes we were... We just didn't. Because there was no tournament then.

And who won the first championship when they finally did decide it on-field, instead of just picking from those Maryland schools?

I guess Coach Moran and the team showed all.

As an aside, he's written his autobiography. They're having an 80^th birthday celebration and book signing the same day as the 1967 reception.

The manager of the refinery I worked at used to enjoy lacrosse small talk until that championship weekend - smug Princeton Tiger - but really an OK guy on balance.

TimV

Swampy
Besides, those teams still weren't good enough to win a single NC, so let's not blow this out of proportion. (Thank you Bal'more. )

Yes. Yes we were... We just didn't. Because there was no tournament then.

Just in case you didn't notice, the acknowledged that the fix was in. If rather than having the Maryland schools vote on which one of them would win, they had actually played for the NC, I have no doubt Ned & Co. would have chalked up a few more NC's.

Hard not to notice a bright red double bird. It was the part about "Blowing out of proportion" that made it sound bad.

TimV
Hard not to notice a bright red double bird. It was the part about "Blowing out of proportion" that made it sound bad.

For me it was the "still weren't good enough" part.

Maryland lacrosse is entirely composed of parvenus. Lacrosse is an Iroquois game, and the Iroquois Confederation centers in what is now upstate New York. Tidewater johnny-come-latelys bragging about their lacrosse history should drink ink.

Al DeFlorio

Swampy
I thought Butch graduated from IEOR.

Could be. Cornell alumni directory shows BSENGR '68 but MEE '69. Still, not many engineers of any flavor today.

Butch was an Enginering Physics major.
He was my dorm counselor (are they call RA's now?) the second semester of my freshman year.

jkahn

Al DeFlorio

Swampy
I thought Butch graduated from IEOR.

Could be. Cornell alumni directory shows BSENGR '68 but MEE '69. Still, not many engineers of any flavor today.

Butch was an Enginering Physics major.
He was my dorm counselor (are they call RA's now?) the second semester of my freshman year.

First, a caveat. When we're talking about our recollections from almost 50 years ago, for a number of reasons (the time lapse, the age of the recaller) we have to take them with a grain of salt. This is especially true if 50 years ago was in the sixties, because anyone who remembers the sixties wasn't there.

That said, from your signature, Jeff, I surmise you started in fall of 1966. If so, it's fully possible that someone in the class of '68 was your dorm counselor in spring of 67 and still an Engineering Physics major at the time, during their junior year. But I think it was still possible to change majors by the senior year.

My particular recollections of Butch stem from the fact that we were in several engineering classes together, and I was IEOR. But maybe I'm remembering classes during the early years when everyone took core courses irrespective of whatever major they chose.

Swampy
This is especially true if 50 years ago was in the sixties, because anyone who remembers the sixties wasn't there.

Love that.

TimV

Swampy
This is especially true if 50 years ago was in the sixties, because anyone who remembers the sixties wasn't there.

Love that.

And also that The Sixties actually runs from 1964 to 1973.

Absolutely. The Kennedy assassination was a pivot point - seems everything changed after that, and the early 60's were just a continuation of the 50's.

Most history books I know of put the Eisenhower and Kennedy presidencies in the same chapter. They're essentially the same period.

Iceberg
Most history books I know of put the Eisenhower and Kennedy presidencies in the same chapter. They're essentially the same period.

Exactly my point. Right up to the time the bullet hit the bone.

Ah, those were the days!

lol

Trotsky

TimV
We should commission the guy who did "Touchdown the Bear" to put a statue of Ned by the stairs near the Lynah entrance.

There should absolutely be a statue of Ned by Lynah. Crowdfund it maybe?

The bear statue was tens of thousands of dollars. You pay upfront for its care in perpetuity. Plus for site prep. And the bear and the base.

i think it was more than that.

billhoward

Trotsky

TimV
We should commission the guy who did "Touchdown the Bear" to put a statue of Ned by the stairs near the Lynah entrance.

There should absolutely be a statue of Ned by Lynah. Crowdfund it maybe?

The bear statue was tens of thousands of dollars. You pay upfront for its care in perpetuity. Plus for site prep. And the bear and the base.

OK. Let's sell the bear to Brown or Maine and use that money. Since the care is already paid.

Or you pay for it Bill, and we'll attach a small plaque with your name on it.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. Eisenhower = Trump!

So Ken Dryden had a pretty busy weekend.

Weder
So Ken Dryden had a pretty busy weekend.

It's pretty friggin' cool that Dryden and Nieuwy were included in the NHL Top 100 All-time list.

About time we got our defenseman.

NCAA off the top of my head (please help):

Chelios, Wisconsin
Dryden, Cornell
Brett Hull, UMD
Keith, MSU
Leetch, BC
Nieuwendyk, Cornell
Oates, RPI
Toews, NoDak

Trotsky

Weder
So Ken Dryden had a pretty busy weekend.

It's pretty friggin' cool that Dryden and Nieuwy were included in the NHL Top 100 All-time list.

About time we got our defenseman.

NCAA off the top of my head (please help):

Chelios, Wisconsin
Dryden, Cornell
Brett Hull, UMD
Keith, MSU
Leetch, BC
Nieuwendyk, Cornell
Oates, RPI
Toews, NoDak

Tony Esposito, Michigan Tech

jkahn

Trotsky

Weder
So Ken Dryden had a pretty busy weekend.

It's pretty friggin' cool that Dryden and Nieuwy were included in the NHL Top 100 All-time list.

About time we got our defenseman.

NCAA off the top of my head (please help):

Chelios, Wisconsin
Dryden, Cornell
Brett Hull, UMD
Keith, MSU
Leetch, BC
Nieuwendyk, Cornell
Oates, RPI
Toews, NoDak

Tony Esposito, Michigan Tech

That agrees with what College Hockey Inc posted. [collegehockeyinc.com]