Upcoming Season
Posted by Jim Hyla
Upcoming Season
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 18, 2016 01:06PM
Here's the Sun's take on the schedule.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: July 19, 2016 12:30PM
When we were visiting college campuses with my kids, we always picked up the campus paper to check out the quality of the writing. I don't know if my son would be at Cornell now if this article is a representative sample. Hopefully it is just the sports section that is illiterate. I might blame the editor, but there is little evidence that there was an editor.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.20.---)
Date: July 19, 2016 01:51PM
nshapiro
When we were visiting college campuses with my kids, we always picked up the campus paper to check out the quality of the writing. I don't know if my son would be at Cornell now if this article is a representative sample. Hopefully it is just the sports section that is illiterate. I might blame the editor, but there is little evidence that there was an editor.
It's been bad for years. It's really just very clear that the writers, try as they might, simply aren't familiar with hockey terminology nor the ins-and-outs of the game. Goalies "blocking" shots, forwards "hitting" the puck into the net. I'm sure they're doing their best with whats available at the sun, but its verylikely they don't have a big hockey fan on staff - at least not every year.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-70-192-67.myvzw.com)
Date: July 20, 2016 01:42PM
There have also been some superb in-depth stories by The Sun including this spring the piece on the selection of the new basketball coach. How Cornell Basketball Hired Brian Earl
Now that The sun is three-times-a-week in print, we can hope there'll be more real time sports coverage, in particular the game story posting an hour or two after the game rather than waiting until the print edition comes out.
Now that The sun is three-times-a-week in print, we can hope there'll be more real time sports coverage, in particular the game story posting an hour or two after the game rather than waiting until the print edition comes out.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: July 20, 2016 02:13PM
CU2007
nshapiro
When we were visiting college campuses with my kids, we always picked up the campus paper to check out the quality of the writing. I don't know if my son would be at Cornell now if this article is a representative sample. Hopefully it is just the sports section that is illiterate. I might blame the editor, but there is little evidence that there was an editor.
It's been bad for years. It's really just very clear that the writers, try as they might, simply aren't familiar with hockey terminology nor the ins-and-outs of the game. Goalies "blocking" shots, forwards "hitting" the puck into the net. I'm sure they're doing their best with whats available at the sun, but its verylikely they don't have a big hockey fan on staff - at least not every year.
The Sun that I remember (04-07) is better than the newspaper at the school I'm at now, which is the flagship state university of a very, very sparsely populated state.
It's worse than the newspaper at Colorado University, but I don't think that one is anywhere near student-run.
Given that the Sun has very little non-student involvement (I think), it's not a bad product. Or it wasn't a decade ago.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: July 21, 2016 10:59AM
The only non-student involvement at The Sun are the front office staff who take care of routine stuff like sending invoices for advertising, the people who layout/format the paper to be printed, and the five "adults" who comprise half the board of directors. Since the board provides institutional memory as well as oversight of the corporation, it makes sense to involve people who won't disappear after 4 years. And the Board does not interfere in editorial decisions. Although as an individual board member, I expressed my disgust whenever the Business Manager convinced the other student editors/managers to run full-pages ads on the back page rather than sports.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: July 21, 2016 11:38AM
Since there are now articles that are never in print editions, are they not subject to typical proofreading one would expect?
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: July 23, 2016 09:57AM
TBRW Predictions. We report, you decide.
Bottom line:
Bottom line:
1. Quinnipiac
2. Yale
3. Harvard
4. Clarkson
5. St. Lawrence
6. Dartmouth
7. Union
8. Cornell
9. RPI
10. Colgate
11. Brown
12. Princeton
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/23/2016 10:17AM by Trotsky.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: dbilmes (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: July 23, 2016 01:29PM
Looks like we get another trip to beautiful Hamden for the ECAC playoffs!
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: KeithK (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: July 23, 2016 02:39PM
Do you have data on how well your predict method has matched the real results? Data based on your current incarnation of the prediction method would be best, as opposed to what you were using in any particular year (which means I can't just data mine your posts and do it myself ).
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: July 24, 2016 09:28AM
KeithK
Do you have data on how well your predict method has matched the real results? Data based on your current incarnation of the prediction method would be best, as opposed to what you were using in any particular year (which means I can't just data mine your posts and do it myself ).
Here's what you didn't ask for.
For what you did ask for, I'll do that eventually (unless you want to ). An advantage of the latest system is it's a lot easier than the old incarnations.
I agree the apples to apples is to use the same algorithm for all the data.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2016 09:29AM by Trotsky.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: July 31, 2016 03:25PM
Trotsky
TBRW Predictions. We report, you decide.
Bottom line:
1. Quinnipiac 2. Yale 3. Harvard 4. Clarkson 5. St. Lawrence 6. Dartmouth 7. Union 8. Cornell 9. RPI 10. Colgate 11. Brown 12. Princeton
Given that your 3 of your predicted top 4 lost a significant amount of goaltending to graduation and early departure, one hopes that the performance of those teams and, thus, your predictor will encourage you to add goaltending back in for future years…
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: July 31, 2016 11:56PM
Scersk '97
Given that your 3 of your predicted top 4 lost a significant amount of goaltending to graduation and early departure, one hopes that the performance of those teams and, thus, your predictor will encourage you to add goaltending back in for future years…
I've got a few months til the pucks drops. One day I may be idle enough to run the numbers according to the 2015 formula.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 06, 2016 07:49AM
Nine Current Men's Hockey Players Attend NHL Prospect Camps. The news here is that they had 4 free agents go to camps (Including Kubiak going to 2 different team camps), in addition to the drafted players.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: August 31, 2016 08:32PM
Weidner New Men's Hockey Captain; Kubiak, McCarron Alternates
Men's Hockey Season Tickets On Sale Now
Men's Hockey Season Tickets On Sale Now
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 10, 2016 08:02AM
Watching the mailbox with bated breath.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 10, 2016 11:20AM
Still blows me away: no more standing in line (on line for New Yorkers) for hockey tickets. Buy hockey tickets, you get free tickets for Cornell football. Imagine Cornell hires as assistant sports information director from, say, Ohio State and asks him/her to be one last set of eyes on the release checking for anything that's misspelled (Pokuluk?) or obviously wrong. What a unique institution Cornell is.Cornell press release
All season tickets include an exclusive Cornell winter scarf and complimentary season tickets to Cornell football and men's lacrosse games.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 10, 2016 02:20PM
Johnny 5
Watching the mailbox with bated breath.
Hopeful that your breath is not Abated.
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"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 10, 2016 02:25PM
Cornell press release
All season tickets include an exclusive Cornell winter scarf and complimentary season tickets to Cornell football and men's lacrosse games.
WHAT??? Those are perfectly good lacrosse tickets. The HOCKEY tickets should be the throw-ins. We score actual goals in lacrosse.
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"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: September 10, 2016 05:16PM
Your outrage is misplaced. The real outrage is hockey fans being forced to receive tickets for Cornell football. I guess they can't make you show up...TimV
Cornell press release
All season tickets include an exclusive Cornell winter scarf and complimentary season tickets to Cornell football and men's lacrosse games.
WHAT??? Those are perfectly good lacrosse tickets. The HOCKEY tickets should be the throw-ins. We score actual goals in lacrosse.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: semsox (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: September 10, 2016 09:06PM
KeithK
Your outrage is misplaced. The real outrage is hockey fans being forced to receive tickets for Cornell football. I guess they can't make you show up...TimV
Cornell press release
All season tickets include an exclusive Cornell winter scarf and complimentary season tickets to Cornell football and men's lacrosse games.
WHAT??? Those are perfectly good lacrosse tickets. The HOCKEY tickets should be the throw-ins. We score actual goals in lacrosse.
I think people will catch on when the attendance of every football game is 4267.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.129.41.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: September 11, 2016 07:22PM
semsox
KeithK
Your outrage is misplaced. The real outrage is hockey fans being forced to receive tickets for Cornell football. I guess they can't make you show up...TimV
Cornell press release
All season tickets include an exclusive Cornell winter scarf and complimentary season tickets to Cornell football and men's lacrosse games.
WHAT??? Those are perfectly good lacrosse tickets. The HOCKEY tickets should be the throw-ins. We score actual goals in lacrosse.
I think people will catch on when the attendance of every football game is 4267.
Nice...+1
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 12, 2016 08:50AM
TimV
Johnny 5
Watching the mailbox with bated breath.
Hopeful that your breath is not Abated.
What should I say to you? Should I not say
'Hath a dog money? is it possible
A cur can lend three thousand ducats?' Or
Shall I bend low and in a bondman's key,
With bated breath and whispering humbleness, Say this;
'Fair sir, you spit on me on Wednesday last;
You spurn'd me such a day; another time
You call'd me dog; and for these courtesies
I'll lend you thus much moneys'?
~Merchant of Venice, W. Shakespeare, 1596
Not abated yet!
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: September 12, 2016 12:35PM
For the current student body, they shouldn't deliver the hockey tickets until proof of attendance at first few home football games.
Mandatory school spirit!
Mandatory school spirit!
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: September 12, 2016 02:49PM
Um, we do want people to go to Lynah, right?nshapiro
For the current student body, they shouldn't deliver the hockey tickets until proof of attendance at first few home football games.
Mandatory school spirit!
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: September 16, 2016 12:09PM
KeithK
Um, we do want people to go to Lynah, right?nshapiro
For the current student body, they shouldn't deliver the hockey tickets until proof of attendance at first few home football games.
Mandatory school spirit!
A fair point. I still have the mindset that students would jump through all sorts of unreasonable hoops to obtain season tickets.
If Cornell had a system of acquiring points by attending other sporting events in order to obtain hockey tickets (sounds like pep band!) that would have been incentive when I was an undergrad, not the deterrent it probably would be today.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: September 16, 2016 01:56PM
Unreasonable hoops? Absolutely. But lets not venture into torture.nshapiro
KeithK
Um, we do want people to go to Lynah, right?nshapiro
For the current student body, they shouldn't deliver the hockey tickets until proof of attendance at first few home football games.
Mandatory school spirit!
A fair point. I still have the mindset that students would jump through all sorts of unreasonable hoops to obtain season tickets.
In principle I think this is a good idea. Even, all jokes aside, including football. But my take on the current generation of students (possibly unfair, certainly not well informed) is that many or most would simply blow off all sporting events rather than put up with the requirements.nshapiro
If Cornell had a system of acquiring points by attending other sporting events in order to obtain hockey tickets (sounds like pep band!) that would have been incentive when I was an undergrad, not the deterrent it probably would be today.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: September 16, 2016 04:06PM
Could be a good opportunity for some troll-cheering. If they make you go, you might as well have fun with it.KeithK
In principle I think this is a good idea. Even, all jokes aside, including football. But my take on the current generation of students (possibly unfair, certainly not well informed) is that many or most would simply blow off all sporting events rather than put up with the requirements.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 16, 2016 05:33PM
Kyle Rose
Could be a good opportunity for some troll-cheering. If they make you go, you might as well have fun with it.
It's not the athletes' fault that Cornell athletics sucks so please don't cleverly (a.k.a. not at all cleverly) slag them.
OTOH, if you want to burn the administration in effigy, go to it. They've been cluelessly slurping the balls of their Upper Class Twits of the Year donors for decades while our real mission burns.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: September 16, 2016 08:01PM
Aren't the athletes (at least partially) to blame by definition? If they would just play better the teams wouldn't suck so much.Trotsky
It's not the athletes' fault that Cornell athletics sucks so please don't cleverly (a.k.a. not at all cleverly) slag them.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 17, 2016 07:28AM
KeithK
Aren't the athletes (at least partially) to blame by definition? If they would just play better the teams wouldn't suck so much.Trotsky
It's not the athletes' fault that Cornell athletics sucks so please don't cleverly (a.k.a. not at all cleverly) slag them.
Maybe, considering their abilities and coaching, they're playing as well as they can. Maybe we just need better athletes and coaches.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com)
Date: September 17, 2016 04:53PM
Who, really, would be to blame in that scenario? The collateral damage is unfortunate, but acceptable since it doesn't involve actually harming anyone.Trotsky
Kyle Rose
Could be a good opportunity for some troll-cheering. If they make you go, you might as well have fun with it.
It's not the athletes' fault that Cornell athletics sucks so please don't cleverly (a.k.a. not at all cleverly) slag them.
That said, regardless of how low my opinion of the Cornell administration is, I doubt they would actually do something this awful so it's probably pointless to argue over.
Like that would move them one iota. You get them to change their minds by giving them the exact opposite of what they aim for.
OTOH, if you want to burn the administration in effigy, go to it.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 29, 2016 07:51PM
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 29, 2016 08:36PM
RPI blog Without a Peer's yearly post about Cornell [www.withoutapeer.com].
Disclaimer. I have no connection with WaP except as a reader.
Disclaimer. I have no connection with WaP except as a reader.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 30, 2016 09:52PM
Nothing to argue about in that article. Seems fair.ursusminor
Disclaimer. I have no connection with WaP except as a reader.
Re: Upcoming Season
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: October 01, 2016 10:47PM
Johnny 5
+1
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