Conference Playoffs: Non-conference rooting interests

Conference Tournaments:

Thursday:
Big Ten:
MSU v. OSU
PSU v. Michigan

Friday:
Big Ten:
TBD v. Wisconsin
TBD v. Minnesota

AHA:
Niagara v. RMU
Canisius v. Mercyhurst

HEA:
UNH v. PC
ND v. UML

WCHA:
UAA v. FSU
BGSU v. MSU-M
FSU winning this tournament is important. UAA and Bowling Green would vulture bids. Cornell and Mankato are in the group fighting for at large. A BG win on Friday goes a long way to ending Mankato's season but also buts BG closer to stealing a bid.

NCHC:
Miami v. ND
DU v. WMU




With Cornell's NCAA chances still hanging in the balance, there's a lot of non-conference scoreboard watching to be done over the next two weeks. Cornell's rooting interests are for a) whatever helps PWR b) whatever eliminates bubble teams and c) whatever minimizes outlier auto-bids eating up the 13-15 seeds. Teams who it seems Cornell should root for this weekend are in bold. Any others?

Conference Quarters (all best of three)

AHA
Canisius @ Bentley (CAN 2-1)
RMU @ UConn (RMU 2-0)
Niagara @ AFA (NIA 2-1)
Holy Cross @ Mercyhurst (MC 2-0)

HEA
Northeastern @ UNH (NE 2-0)
Maine @ Providence (PC 2-0)
Notre Dame @ BC (ND 2-1)
UVM @ UML (UML 2-1)

WCHA
MTU @ BGU
Bemidji @ Ferris (FSU 2-1)
Northern Michigan @ MSU-Mankato (MSU-M 2-0)
UAA @ UAF (UAF 1-0)

NCHC
Western Michigan @ Duluth (WMU 2-0)
Denver @ UNO (Denver 2-1)
Miami @ SCSU (Miami 2-0)
CC @ North Dakota (ND 2-1)


Big Ten Regular season (two games each):
Minnesota @ Michigan (1-1)
OSU @ PSU (1-1)
Wisconsin @ MSU (1-1)

I think if Cornell sweeps and BC sweeps Notre Dame we can move ahead of Notre Dame. Same if Maine were to sweep Providence - it does significant damage to Providence's chances and while it improves Maine's they shouldn't be a threat to us.

FWIW, UNO beating Denver last night moved our RPI from 0.5412 to 0.5415. Sounds to me, the bigger impact is what we do and what the teams near us do.

Jeff Hopkins '82
FWIW, UNO beating Denver last night moved our RPI from 0.5412 to 0.5415. Sounds to me, the bigger impact is what we do and what the teams near us do.

Here are the teams +/- .01 RPICH:

.5482 Notre Dame at BC: WON
.5468 North Dakota vs CC: WON
.5462 Providence vs Maine: WON
.5418 Vermont at Lowell: LOST
.5415 Cornell vs Clarkson: WON
.5406 Michigan vs Minnesota: LOST
.5393 Northeastern at UNH: LOST
.5356 Colgate vs St. Lawrence: WON
.5364 Mankato vs Northern Michigan: WON
.5344 Yale at Quinnipiac: LOST

Not a game of PWR interest, but tonight the Bemidji goaltender had 15 saves and gave up 8 goals.

Trotsky
Not a game of PWR interest, but tonight the Bemidji goaltender had 15 saves and gave up 8 goals.

Speaking of which, with most results now in the books, we're up to #12 in the PWR.

Beeeej

Trotsky
Not a game of PWR interest, but tonight the Bemidji goaltender had 15 saves and gave up 8 goals.

Speaking of which, with most results now in the books, we're up to #12 in the PWR.

Still pretty volatile tho. At one point in the evening Colgate was at 12 and we were 13. Once the St. Cloud loss came in, they dropped back to 15 and we moved up.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Beeeej

Trotsky
Not a game of PWR interest, but tonight the Bemidji goaltender had 15 saves and gave up 8 goals.

Speaking of which, with most results now in the books, we're up to #12 in the PWR.

Still pretty volatile tho. At one point in the evening Colgate was at 12 and we were 13. Once the St. Cloud loss came in, they dropped back to 15 and we moved up.

With all the complexity and adjustments for this, that and the other thing, the fact is the PWR tracks the much reviled RPI almost perfectly, with only two irrelevant flip-flops pretty far down in the rankings.

I was blown away that the Irish beat BC 7-2 at BC last night.
BC is not going to sweep that series!

Saturday night's +/- .01 RPICH:

09 .5519 Notre Dame at BC: LOST
10 .5486 Providence vs Maine: WON
11 .5465 North Dakota vs CC: LOST
12 .5431 Cornell vs Clarkson: LOST
13 .5387 Mankato vs Northern Michigan: WON
14 .5380 Vermont at Lowell: WON
15 .5372 Colgate vs St. Lawrence: WON
16 .5368 Michigan vs Minnesota: WON
17 .5357 Northeastern at UNH: WON

As of the end of game two, we're #16 in the Pairwise. We pretty much have to win out now.

Beeeej
As of the end of game two, we're #16 in the Pairwise. We pretty much have to win out now.

I was afraid today's loss would give us a big hit, and I was right. No margin for error now.

Beeeej
As of the end of game two, we're #16 in the Pairwise. We pretty much have to win out now.

A win tomorrow and a win against #3 Union might gain us back enough breathing room to make it, but let's be on the safe side and just win the whole fucking thing.

With St. Cloud getting eliminated in the NCHC playoffs tonight, it's now also more likely someone below us might grab a spot by winning the NCHC playoffs. That's not good news for us (or Colgate).

The late results hurt us (now 17) but completely fucked Colgate (now 16 despite their sweep).

It seems if Cornell wins tonight against Clarkson and should both Colgate and Cornell lose their semifinal games at Lake Placid
both team could very easily be eliminated. The decision not to play a consolation game could really bite the league right in the ass not
allowing one of the teams a win to secure an NCAA spot.

Trotsky

Beeeej
As of the end of game two, we're #16 in the Pairwise. We pretty much have to win out now.

A win tomorrow and a win against #3 Union might gain us back enough breathing room to make it, but let's be on the safe side and just win the whole fucking thing.

We might not need to beat Union. This link shows our probability to make it to the ECAC semifinals, while This link show our probability of making different NCAA seeds. Our probability of losing tonight is 38% and our probability of missing the NCAA tournament is 40%. Since it's incredibly unlikely that we make the NCAA tournament AND lose tonight, doesn't that mean that our likelihood of NOT making the NCAA tournament if we lose to Union in the semis is around 2% or 3%?

This low percentage goes against my gut, but I'm not sure if it's my logic that's off or the probabilities provided by the website.

win tonight, but there will be many teams around us lose next week just like we likely will. who knows.

Hockey East games had early starts today.
Notre Dame 4 BC 2 F
Lowell 2 Vermont 1 F
UNH 5 Northeastern 4 F

BC loses, UNH wins

Icy
BC loses, UNH wins

...which drops us back to #17.

Anybody else getting dizzy?

The win puts us back at 16.

The Atlantic Hockey winner will be a vulture, so the line is currently at 15.

The other conference survivors are:

Big N: (11) Michigan; Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State
ECAC: (3) Union, (6) Quinnipiac, (15) Colgate, (16) Cornell
HE: (7) Lowell, (8) Notre Dame, (9) Providence; UNH
WCHA: (4) Ferris, (12) Mankato; Bowling Green, UAA
NCHC: (13) North Dakota; Miami, WMU, Denver

So there could be up to four additional vultures, dropping the line to 11. Two seem likely.

Trotsky
The win puts us back at 16.

The Atlantic Hockey winner will be a vulture, so the line is currently at 15.

The other conference survivors are:

Big N: (11) Michigan; Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State
ECAC: (3) Union, (6) Quinnipiac, (15) Colgate, (16) Cornell
HE: (7) Lowell, (8) Notre Dame, (9) Providence; UNH
WCHA: (4) Ferris, (12) Mankato; Bowling Green, UAA
NCHC: (13) North Dakota; Miami, WMU, Denver

So there could be up to four additional vultures, dropping the line to 11. Two seem likely.

Umm, I think you forgot Minny and Wisc. Not that they're important.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
The win puts us back at 16.

The Atlantic Hockey winner will be a vulture, so the line is currently at 15.

The other conference survivors are:

Big N: (11) Michigan; Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State
ECAC: (3) Union, (6) Quinnipiac, (15) Colgate, (16) Cornell
HE: (7) Lowell, (8) Notre Dame, (9) Providence; UNH
WCHA: (4) Ferris, (12) Mankato; Bowling Green, UAA
NCHC: (13) North Dakota; Miami, WMU, Denver

So there could be up to four additional vultures, dropping the line to 11. Two seem likely.

Umm, I think you forgot Minny and Wisc. Not that they're important.

Yeah, 6 team "Big 6/10/12/14" conference and everyone gets to play in their conference tourney (very ACC-Lax-like, eh?). Minnesota and Wisconsin get a bye. The teams Trotsky listed play Thursday night with the winners getting the gophers and badgers.

Yeah, I know that the ECAC and almost every other conference lets everyone in, but considering they are only 6 teams and already have played each other 4 times, it seems a bit redundant.

Cornell can make it with a loss to Union. Need NoDak and Ferris to win their tournaments. Colgate needs to lose. New Hampshire can't win hockey east. Need Minnesota St to lose. Bit of a long shot... Even a win against Union doesn't guarantee a bid if there upsets in other leagues.

Rk Team PCWs RPI Rk W-L-T Win %
1 Minnesota 58 .6021 1 27-5-6 .7895
2 Boston College 57 .5892* 2 26-7-4 .7568
3 Union 55 .5863* 3 28-6-4 .7895
4 Ferris State 55 .5680* 4 29-9-3 .7439
5 Wisconsin 54 .5608* 5 23-11-2 .6667
6 Quinnipiac 53 .5593 7 25-9-6 .7000
7 Mass.-Lowell 52 .5608* 6 25-10-4 .6923
8 Notre Dame 51 .5542* 8 23-14-2 .6154
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5485* 9 21-10-5 .6528
10 Providence 48 .5451* 10 21-10-6 .6486
11 North Dakota 48 .5445 11 24-12-3 .6538
12 Michigan 46 .5406 12 19-13-4 .5833
13 Vermont 46 .5400 13 20-14-3 .5811
14 Northeastern 44 .5359 14 19-14-4 .5676
15 Cornell 44 .5356 15 17-10-5 .6094
16 Colgate 43 .5352 16 19-13-5 .5811
17 New Hampshire 42 .5303 18 22-18-1 .5488
18 Minnesota State 41 .5347 17 24-14-1 .6282
19 Yale 40 .5268 19 17-11-5 .5909
20 Western Michigan 40 .5257 20 20-15-5 .5625
21 Ohio State 38 .5218 21 17-14-5 .5417
22 Minnesota-Duluth 38 .5197 22 16-16-4 .5000
23 Maine 35 .5185 23 16-15-4 .5143
24 Bowling Green 35 .5172 24 19-15-6 .5500
25 Clarkson 33 .5141 26 21-17-4 .5476
26 Alaska-Anchorage 33 .5122 27 18-16-4 .5263
27 Alaska-Fairbanks 32 .5068 29 18-15-4 .5405
28 Denver 31 .5161 25 19-16-6 .5366
29 Mercyhurst 30 .5079 28 23-12-7 .6310
30 Rensselaer 29 .5048 30 15-16-6 .4865
31 Nebraska-Omaha 29 .5045 31 17-18-2 .4865
32 St. Lawrence 28 .5003 32 15-19-4 .4474
33 Lake Superior 27 .4994 33 16-19-1 .4583
34 Michigan Tech 25 .4935 34 14-19-7 .4375
35 Miami 24 .4934 35 14-21-3 .4079
36 Air Force 24 .4922 36 21-14-4 .5897
37 Michigan State 22 .4878 37 11-18-7 .4028
38 Brown 21 .4872 38 11-17-3 .4032
39 Northern Michigan 19 .4832 40 15-21-2 .4211
40 Harvard 19 .4810 41 10-17-4 .3871
41 Bentley 17 .4858 39 19-14-4 .5676
42 Dartmouth 17 .4784 42 10-20-4 .3529
43 Connecticut 16 .4776 43 18-14-4 .5556
44 Boston University 15 .4728 44 10-21-4 .3429
45 Bemidji State 14 .4704 45 10-21-7 .3553
46 Massachusetts 13 .4696 46 8-22-4 .2941
47 Robert Morris 12 .4664 47 18-18-5 .5000
48 Merrimack 12 .4601 48 8-22-3 .2879
49 Canisius 10 .4601 49 16-21-3 .4375
50 Niagara 9 .4588 50 15-20-5 .4375
51 Colorado College 8 .4537 51 7-24-6 .2703
52 Penn State 7 .4484 52 7-26-2 .2286
53 Holy Cross 6 .4465 53 14-22-3 .3974
54 RIT 5 .4449 54 12-20-5 .3919
55 Princeton 4 .4320 55 6-26-0 .1875
56 Sacred Heart 4 .4282 56 12-24-0 .3333
57 American Int'l 2 .4176 57 10-25-1 .2917
58 Alabama-Huntsville 1 .3955 58 2-35-1 .0658
59 Army 0 .3887 59 6-28-0 .1765


User-Specified Results
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #1: Mercyhurst def. Canisius
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Robert Morris def. Niagara
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Mercyhurst def. Robert Morris
•Big Ten Semifinal #1: Minnesota def. Ohio State
•Big Ten Semifinal #2: Wisconsin def. Michigan
•Big Ten Championship: Minnesota def. Wisconsin
•Big Ten Play-in #1: Michigan def. Penn State
•Big Ten Play-in #2: Ohio State def. Michigan State
•ECAC Semifinal #1: Union def. Cornell
•ECAC Semifinal #2: Quinnipiac def. Colgate
•ECAC Championship: Union def. Quinnipiac
•Hockey East Semifinal #1: Mass.-Lowell def. Notre Dame
•Hockey East Semifinal #2: New Hampshire def. Providence
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Miami
•NCHC Semifinal #2: Western Michigan def. Denver
•NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Western Michigan
•NCHC Consolation: Denver def. Miami
•WCHA Semifinal #1: Ferris State def. Alaska-Anchorage
•WCHA Semifinal #2: Bowling Green def. Minnesota State
•WCHA Championship: Ferris State def. Bowling Green

Bigger long shot: If Penn Sate can upset Mighigan again, we can still get in if Minnesota State wins.

Rita
Umm, I think you forgot Minny and Wisc. Not that they're important.

I did forget them. They help a lot since they significantly lessen the chance of a Big N vulture.

Vulture likelihoods (source):

AH: 100%
NCHA: 70%
Big N: 8%
WCHA: 32%
HE: 10% (roughly, they haven't updated yet)
ECAC: 0%

Trotsky

Rita
Umm, I think you forgot Minny and Wisc. Not that they're important.

I did forget them. They help a lot since they significantly lessen the chance of a Big N vulture.

Vulture likelihoods (source):

AH: 100%
NCHA: 70%
Big N: 8%
WCHA: 32%
HE: 10% (roughly, they haven't updated yet)
ECAC: 0%

Big Ten tournament is for bragging rights, no? I didn't think they had an aq yet.

Chris '03
Big Ten tournament is for bragging rights, no? I didn't think they had an aq yet.

Really? I had no idea.

Trotsky

Chris '03
Big Ten tournament is for bragging rights, no? I didn't think they had an aq yet.

Really? I had no idea.

Maybe not...

The winner of the 2014 Big Ten Men's Ice Hockey Tournament will receive the conference's automatic bid to the NCAA Championship.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/big10-m-hockey-tournament-13-14.html

I must be getting my lax and hockey realignment auto-qualifiers mixed up or something.

Nothing to see here... move along.

Chris '03
I must be getting my lax and hockey realignment auto-qualifiers mixed up or something.

IIRC PSU is not able to qualify this year. Maybe you're thinking of that?

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union. Need NoDak and Ferris to win their tournaments. Colgate needs to lose. New Hampshire can't win hockey east. Need Minnesota St to lose. Bit of a long shot... Even a win against Union doesn't guarantee a bid if there upsets in other leagues.

Rk Team PCWs RPI Rk W-L-T Win %
1 Minnesota 58 .6021 1 27-5-6 .7895
2 Boston College 57 .5892* 2 26-7-4 .7568
3 Union 55 .5863* 3 28-6-4 .7895
4 Ferris State 55 .5680* 4 29-9-3 .7439
5 Wisconsin 54 .5608* 5 23-11-2 .6667
6 Quinnipiac 53 .5593 7 25-9-6 .7000
7 Mass.-Lowell 52 .5608* 6 25-10-4 .6923
8 Notre Dame 51 .5542* 8 23-14-2 .6154
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5485* 9 21-10-5 .6528
10 Providence 48 .5451* 10 21-10-6 .6486
11 North Dakota 48 .5445 11 24-12-3 .6538
12 Michigan 46 .5406 12 19-13-4 .5833
13 Vermont 46 .5400 13 20-14-3 .5811
14 Northeastern 44 .5359 14 19-14-4 .5676
15 Cornell 44 .5356 15 17-10-5 .6094
16 Colgate 43 .5352 16 19-13-5 .5811
17 New Hampshire 42 .5303 18 22-18-1 .5488
18 Minnesota State 41 .5347 17 24-14-1 .6282
19 Yale 40 .5268 19 17-11-5 .5909
20 Western Michigan 40 .5257 20 20-15-5 .5625
21 Ohio State 38 .5218 21 17-14-5 .5417
22 Minnesota-Duluth 38 .5197 22 16-16-4 .5000
23 Maine 35 .5185 23 16-15-4 .5143
24 Bowling Green 35 .5172 24 19-15-6 .5500
25 Clarkson 33 .5141 26 21-17-4 .5476
26 Alaska-Anchorage 33 .5122 27 18-16-4 .5263
27 Alaska-Fairbanks 32 .5068 29 18-15-4 .5405
28 Denver 31 .5161 25 19-16-6 .5366
29 Mercyhurst 30 .5079 28 23-12-7 .6310
30 Rensselaer 29 .5048 30 15-16-6 .4865
31 Nebraska-Omaha 29 .5045 31 17-18-2 .4865
32 St. Lawrence 28 .5003 32 15-19-4 .4474
33 Lake Superior 27 .4994 33 16-19-1 .4583
34 Michigan Tech 25 .4935 34 14-19-7 .4375
35 Miami 24 .4934 35 14-21-3 .4079
36 Air Force 24 .4922 36 21-14-4 .5897
37 Michigan State 22 .4878 37 11-18-7 .4028
38 Brown 21 .4872 38 11-17-3 .4032
39 Northern Michigan 19 .4832 40 15-21-2 .4211
40 Harvard 19 .4810 41 10-17-4 .3871
41 Bentley 17 .4858 39 19-14-4 .5676
42 Dartmouth 17 .4784 42 10-20-4 .3529
43 Connecticut 16 .4776 43 18-14-4 .5556
44 Boston University 15 .4728 44 10-21-4 .3429
45 Bemidji State 14 .4704 45 10-21-7 .3553
46 Massachusetts 13 .4696 46 8-22-4 .2941
47 Robert Morris 12 .4664 47 18-18-5 .5000
48 Merrimack 12 .4601 48 8-22-3 .2879
49 Canisius 10 .4601 49 16-21-3 .4375
50 Niagara 9 .4588 50 15-20-5 .4375
51 Colorado College 8 .4537 51 7-24-6 .2703
52 Penn State 7 .4484 52 7-26-2 .2286
53 Holy Cross 6 .4465 53 14-22-3 .3974
54 RIT 5 .4449 54 12-20-5 .3919
55 Princeton 4 .4320 55 6-26-0 .1875
56 Sacred Heart 4 .4282 56 12-24-0 .3333
57 American Int'l 2 .4176 57 10-25-1 .2917
58 Alabama-Huntsville 1 .3955 58 2-35-1 .0658
59 Army 0 .3887 59 6-28-0 .1765


User-Specified Results
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #1: Mercyhurst def. Canisius
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Robert Morris def. Niagara
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Mercyhurst def. Robert Morris
•Big Ten Semifinal #1: Minnesota def. Ohio State
•Big Ten Semifinal #2: Wisconsin def. Michigan
•Big Ten Championship: Minnesota def. Wisconsin
•Big Ten Play-in #1: Michigan def. Penn State
•Big Ten Play-in #2: Ohio State def. Michigan State
•ECAC Semifinal #1: Union def. Cornell
•ECAC Semifinal #2: Quinnipiac def. Colgate
•ECAC Championship: Union def. Quinnipiac
•Hockey East Semifinal #1: Mass.-Lowell def. Notre Dame
•Hockey East Semifinal #2: New Hampshire def. Providence
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Miami
•NCHC Semifinal #2: Western Michigan def. Denver
•NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Western Michigan
•NCHC Consolation: Denver def. Miami
•WCHA Semifinal #1: Ferris State def. Alaska-Anchorage
•WCHA Semifinal #2: Bowling Green def. Minnesota State
•WCHA Championship: Ferris State def. Bowling Green

I just ran this again and we're 17. Did I do something wrong, or has it changed?

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union.

The probabilities analysis on the other thread shows that we make it with a loss to Union in just 0.2% of all permutations.

We may want to think about winning...

Trotsky

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union.

The probabilities analysis on the other thread shows that we make it with a loss to Union in just 0.2% of all permutations.

We may want to think about winning...

The agenda is set but if you bring it up at the meeting I'll give you some time to make your case.

ugarte

Trotsky

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union.

The probabilities analysis on the other thread shows that we make it with a loss to Union in just 0.2% of all permutations.

We may want to think about winning...

The agenda is set but if you bring it up at the meeting I'll give you some time to make your case.

I haven't crunched the numbers, but unless I am mistaken, winning would also have the added benefit of significantly increasing our chances of winning the ECAC championship.

andyw2100

ugarte

Trotsky

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union.

The probabilities analysis on the other thread shows that we make it with a loss to Union in just 0.2% of all permutations.

We may want to think about winning...

The agenda is set but if you bring it up at the meeting I'll give you some time to make your case.

I haven't crunched the numbers, but unless I am mistaken, winning would also have the added benefit of significantly increasing our chances of winning the ECAC championship.

You mean they cancelled cancelled the loser's bracket too? Geez.

Jim Hyla

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union. Need NoDak and Ferris to win their tournaments. Colgate needs to lose. New Hampshire can't win hockey east. Need Minnesota St to lose. Bit of a long shot... Even a win against Union doesn't guarantee a bid if there upsets in other leagues.

I just ran this again and we're 17. Did I do something wrong, or has it changed?

Looks like it changed... I can't duplicate the result, nor can I find one where Cornell gets in with a loss.

mikek

Jim Hyla

mikek
Cornell can make it with a loss to Union. Need NoDak and Ferris to win their tournaments. Colgate needs to lose. New Hampshire can't win hockey east. Need Minnesota St to lose. Bit of a long shot... Even a win against Union doesn't guarantee a bid if there upsets in other leagues.

I just ran this again and we're 17. Did I do something wrong, or has it changed?

Looks like it changed... I can duplicate the result, nor can I find one where Cornell gets in with a loss.

That's what I thought, although I did it before and got us in. It was after all games of the weekend, so I don't understand what changed.

Does anyone know if there is a free audio link for this afternoon's Big 6/10/12/14 play-in game between Michigan and Penn State? It is a 3 pm face-off.

I found this link on the Michigan site, so it will be trial and error to see if any of them stream for free on the internet.

Go Nittany Lions!

free audio:

[www.mgoblue.com]

midway through the first, 0-0.

Rita
free audio:

[www.mgoblue.com]

midway through the first, 0-0.

Also airing live right now on the Big Ten Network for TeeVee fans. Penn State comes up empty on a power play, still 0-0.

WE ARE...

Jeff Hopkins '82
WE ARE...

So dumb you have to keep repeating your own identity wherever you go?

Jeff Hopkins '82
WE ARE...

good at holding a 1 goal lead in the 3rd period?

yup, PSU up 1-0 after two.

So, we are rooting for... (all guessing)

Thurs

Big Ten

MSU > OSU
PSU > Mich

Friday

AH

We don't care

ECAC

Cor > Uni
Qpc > Col

HE

Prv > UNH (?)
ND > Lowell

NCHC

Mia > NoDak
Den > WMU

WCHA

FSU > UAA
BGSU > Mank

Nope, we don't want anybody but NoDak to win the NCHC.

Rita

Jeff Hopkins '82
WE ARE...

good at holding a 1 goal lead in the 3rd period?

yup, PSU up 1-0 after two.

Nope. Now tied at 1.

after 1 OT, still tied at 1. The Michigan announcers are really happy that the tie will be resolved by "real hockey" and not the shoot-out that they use in the regular season. Go Lions!

According live box and twitter feeds, Penn State wins 2-1!.

The free michigan audio cut out after the first OT. Bummer about that, but the end result was sweet.

We are now #15 PWR, Michigan drops to #16

Using CHN, when I put the Penn State result in, CU is 15 and Michigan is 18.
In any case, losing three times to Penn State this year is not going to do Michigan any favors with the committee.

Lastly, for my wife's alma mater I say LGR!
For my alma mater I say We Are ... !

RichH

Jeff Hopkins '82
WE ARE...

So dumb you have to keep repeating your own identity wherever you go?

Here's the background story behind Penn State's chant:

"In 1948, [Wallace] Triplett became the first African-American to play in the Cotton Bowl Classic, catching the tying touchdown in Penn State's 13-13 tie with Southern Methodist University. It has been suggested Penn State's now-famous 'We Are Penn State!' stadium cheer has its origins in SMU's request for a meeting to protest the participation of Penn State's two black players (Triplett and Hoggard). Team captain Steve Suhey was said to have responded, 'We are Penn State. There will be no meetings.'"

As further context, I should note that through the 1940's, when northern colleges played in the south, black players on the northern teams were not allowed to participate. Penn State refused to comply.

trainbow
Using CHN, when I put the Penn State result in, CU is 15 and Michigan is 18.
In any case, losing three times to Penn State this year is not going to do Michigan any favors with the committee.

Lastly, for my wife's alma mater I say LGR!
For my alma mater I say We Are ... !

PENN STATE!!!

It's my dad's Alma Mater, too.

Still possible to make it... though I think Cornell needs these exact results.

http://goo.gl/o5dWI9

Rk Team PCWs RPI Rk W-L-T Win %
1 Minnesota 58 .5930 1 25-6-6 .7568
2 Boston College 57 .5881* 2 26-7-4 .7568
3 Union 55 .5877* 3 28-6-4 .7895
4 Wisconsin 55 .5661* 4 24-10-2 .6944
5 Mass.-Lowell 53 .5617* 5 25-10-4 .6923
6 Quinnipiac 53 .5581 7 25-9-6 .7000
7 Ferris State 52 .5610* 6 28-10-3 .7195
8 Notre Dame 51 .5518* 8 23-14-2 .6154
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5495* 9 21-10-5 .6528
10 Minnesota State 49 .5476* 10 26-13-1 .6625
11 Providence 47 .5472* 11 21-10-6 .6486
12 North Dakota 47 .5449 12 24-12-3 .6538
13 Vermont 46 .5398 13 20-14-3 .5811
14 Michigan 44 .5367 14 18-13-4 .5714
15 Cornell 44 .5351 15 17-10-5 .6094
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16 Northeastern 42 .5351 16 19-14-4 .5676
17 Colgate 42 .5348 17 19-13-5 .5811
18 New Hampshire 42 .5282 18 22-18-1 .5488
19 Yale 40 .5266 19 17-11-5 .5909
20 Ohio State 39 .5265 20 18-14-5 .5541


User-Specified Results
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Niagara def. Robert Morris
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Niagara def. Canisius
•Big Ten Semifinal #1: Ohio State def. Minnesota
•Big Ten Championship: Wisconsin def. Ohio State
•ECAC Semifinal #2: Quinnipiac def. Colgate
•ECAC Championship: Union def. Quinnipiac
•Hockey East Semifinal #2: New Hampshire def. Providence
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Miami
•NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Denver
•NCHC Consolation: Miami def. Western Michigan
•WCHA Semifinal #1: Ferris State def. Alaska-Anchorage
•WCHA Championship: Minnesota State def. Ferris State

mikek
Still possible to make it... though I think Cornell needs these exact results.

http://goo.gl/o5dWI9

Rk Team PCWs RPI Rk W-L-T Win %
1 Minnesota 58 .5930 1 25-6-6 .7568
2 Boston College 57 .5881* 2 26-7-4 .7568
3 Union 55 .5877* 3 28-6-4 .7895
4 Wisconsin 55 .5661* 4 24-10-2 .6944
5 Mass.-Lowell 53 .5617* 5 25-10-4 .6923
6 Quinnipiac 53 .5581 7 25-9-6 .7000
7 Ferris State 52 .5610* 6 28-10-3 .7195
8 Notre Dame 51 .5518* 8 23-14-2 .6154
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5495* 9 21-10-5 .6528
10 Minnesota State 49 .5476* 10 26-13-1 .6625
11 Providence 47 .5472* 11 21-10-6 .6486
12 North Dakota 47 .5449 12 24-12-3 .6538
13 Vermont 46 .5398 13 20-14-3 .5811
14 Michigan 44 .5367 14 18-13-4 .5714
15 Cornell 44 .5351 15 17-10-5 .6094
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16 Northeastern 42 .5351 16 19-14-4 .5676
17 Colgate 42 .5348 17 19-13-5 .5811
18 New Hampshire 42 .5282 18 22-18-1 .5488
19 Yale 40 .5266 19 17-11-5 .5909
20 Ohio State 39 .5265 20 18-14-5 .5541


User-Specified Results
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Niagara def. Robert Morris
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Niagara def. Canisius
•Big Ten Semifinal #1: Ohio State def. Minnesota
•Big Ten Championship: Wisconsin def. Ohio State
•ECAC Semifinal #2: Quinnipiac def. Colgate
•ECAC Championship: Union def. Quinnipiac
•Hockey East Semifinal #2: New Hampshire def. Providence
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Miami
•NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Denver
•NCHC Consolation: Miami def. Western Michigan
•WCHA Semifinal #1: Ferris State def. Alaska-Anchorage
•WCHA Championship: Minnesota State def. Ferris State

Union over Q drops Northeastern to 18, but puts us in at #15 also. Seems more than a little unlikely for everything to fall exactly into place at this point.

Looks like the window's already closed because of other results.

Since Cornell is out, I'm all for the underdog/bid-stealers in other conference. Let's see what a "hot" team that ran the table in their conference tournament can do in the NC$$. UNH, tOSU and Miami seem to be contenders.

I would like to see Colgate get in so that the ECAC has three representatives. I would like to see Michigan and Vermont knocked out.

Would a win in the cancelled game vs. Mass have had us in the 15 spot pending today's outcomes?

John81
Would a win in the cancelled game vs. Mass have had us in the 15 spot pending today's outcomes?

Don't want to know the answer. Please don't figure this out. Or if you do, only report if the answer is "it wouldn't have mattered."