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Momentum for Brown & Yale

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Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: Killer (---.tjxcos.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 02:44PM

While I agree it would be good to carry some momentum from the St. Lawrence win into this weekend, I always have to chuckle when someone uses a particular phrase that Mike Schafer was quoted as having said in this article:

[www.ithacajournal.com]

If you're going in the wrong direction, doing a "complete 360," probably isn't in your best interest...but I'll take it now.

LGR!
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 04:57PM



 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: Weder (---.austin.hp.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 05:23PM

 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: November 22, 2013 06:01PM

Weder

Wonderful. I'm of the opinion that a ton of our problems last year (and for a three game stretch this year) can be traced directly to a lack of Bardreau.

Now, lack of depth so that one key injury brings you down is also a problem, but one that hopefully won't bite us any more.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 06:40PM

Weder

So this begins the new year.

Random Message Board
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2013 06:45PM by marty.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 07:30PM

Killer
While I agree it would be good to carry some momentum from the St. Lawrence win into this weekend, I always have to chuckle when someone uses a particular phrase that Mike Schafer was quoted as having said in this article:

[www.ithacajournal.com]

If you're going in the wrong direction, doing a "complete 360," probably isn't in your best interest...but I'll take it now.

LGR!

Buckles just had a 360 spinorama to tie Brown 1-1.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2013 07:32PM by marty.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: MattS (---.sub-174-236-32.myvzw.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 07:43PM

Every student in sections A & B should give up their tickets for the remainder if the season. They were chanting the assinine "bend over" while a penalty shot was taking place. If they are going to pay so little attention to the game they might as well not come.

And in other game notes the D looks horrible. Craig should not have gotten another shift for his dumb roughing penalty. How much longer is those type of things going to be allowed? Does Schafer even notice or care? Ugh.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: BearLover (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2013 08:19PM

MattS
Every student in sections A & B should give up their tickets for the remainder if the season. They were chanting the assinine "bend over" while a penalty shot was taking place. If they are going to pay so little attention to the game they might as well not come.

And in other game notes the D looks horrible. Craig should not have gotten another shift for his dumb roughing penalty. How much longer is those type of things going to be allowed? Does Schafer even notice or care? Ugh.
Good start so far but Lynah continues to be the emptiest/quietest I've ever seen it.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: MattS (---.sub-174-236-32.myvzw.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 08:27PM

BearLover
MattS
Every student in sections A & B should give up their tickets for the remainder if the season. They were chanting the assinine "bend over" while a penalty shot was taking place. If they are going to pay so little attention to the game they might as well not come.

And in other game notes the D looks horrible. Craig should not have gotten another shift for his dumb roughing penalty. How much longer is those type of things going to be allowed? Does Schafer even notice or care? Ugh.
Good start so far but Lynah continues to be the emptiest/quietest I've ever seen it.

Very true. E & F are at best one quarter full. There are empty seats in my section which rarely happens.

That was a much better period. I really like Ferlin on the point. And nice to see the freshman getting some goals! Bardreau is a beast out there tonight.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: MattS (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2013 11:17PM

I have to say that was one of the strangest games I have ever witnessed in person. A penalty shot. Broken glass. A mid-period ice resurfacing. Lots of scoring. And a PP that looked decent! Shocking!wow
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: sah67 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2013 12:25AM

According to the box score, Buckles was given a Game DQ for the scuffle at the final horn, so we'll lose him for the Yale game tomorrow night. The Brown player was given only a game misconduct for face-masking, as opposed to Buckles's DQ for fighting.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: carpy85 (---.mycingular.net)
Date: November 23, 2013 01:14AM

sah67
According to the box score, Buckles was given a Game DQ for the scuffle at the final horn, so we'll lose him for the Yale game tomorrow night. The Brown player was given only a game misconduct for face-masking, as opposed to Buckles's DQ for fighting.

The refs weren't exactly for cornell in their calls. I had seen much worse fights than the Buckles fight that gave him the DQ, but on the other occasions players were sent to the bench to cool down or given a game misconduct at worse. Refs even awarded Brown a penalty shot which the Puck looked like was knocked out of Andy's glove. Bogus in my opinion that the refs didn't stop play as soon as they should have on that play.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: hippo (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2013 09:54AM

Curious minds want to know - why were there no goal judges?
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: MattS (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2013 10:03AM

carpy85
sah67
According to the box score, Buckles was given a Game DQ for the scuffle at the final horn, so we'll lose him for the Yale game tomorrow night. The Brown player was given only a game misconduct for face-masking, as opposed to Buckles's DQ for fighting.

The refs weren't exactly for cornell in their calls. I had seen much worse fights than the Buckles fight that gave him the DQ, but on the other occasions players were sent to the bench to cool down or given a game misconduct at worse. Refs even awarded Brown a penalty shot which the Puck looked like was knocked out of Andy's glove. Bogus in my opinion that the refs didn't stop play as soon as they should have on that play.

I would guess that Buckles got the game DQ because he threw punches at the Brown player while the Brown player did not return them. I don't that the DQ was justified but I think that is why there was a difference in penalties.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 23, 2013 10:13AM

they have made a decision to have no goal judge since they really never had any decision making power anyway.. i think the play on having someone with a remote switch run the light now turn on the light when the ref points a goal.. i did see it go on by mistake last night, but we scored a few seconds later anyway
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: redice (---.direcpc.com)
Date: November 23, 2013 11:35AM

I believe there was a slight rule change relative to the goal judges. But do not recall the specifics. Of course, the referees have always had the ultimate say. But, there was some subtle change. Can someone help me here?

 
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Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: Weder (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: November 23, 2013 12:03PM

redice
I believe there was a slight rule change relative to the goal judges. But do not recall the specifics. Of course, the referees have always had the ultimate say. But, there was some subtle change. Can someone help me here?

NCAA.org
Additionally, goal judges are no longer required for NCAA games and will only be recommended.

[www.ncaa.org]
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2013 12:43PM

Still very lame compared to the fight at the end of Union @ RPI (link in the top entry of the "Too many refs in section 7" thread) where NO DQs were assessed. Far worse fight under almost identical circumstances.

 
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Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale - C 5 Brown 1
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 23, 2013 12:55PM

What an intriguing game, especially the shattered glass at the red line on a PK clearing shot by Kirill Gotovets from deep in our zone. Glass that was not replaced. It was an odd size at the Cornell bench that had padding; I trust Cornell keeps spares in all sizes or will cut one for Yale. It was also interesting to walk up to the ticket window at 6:30 and have a choice of sections to sit or stand in.

It was good to see Cole Bardreau back and the first line looks pretty powerful. The power play was just 1x6 (scored on first attempt then 0x5) but we did a good job to give Brown only 3 PP opportunities. So Cornell either played disciplined hockey for the first 59:55 or Brown was a team you could push around without having to resort to holding or cross-checking. But then there was the last 5 seconds of the game with play right at the Brown bench and some shoving before the whistle and I was thinking, uh-oh, bad place for the game to wind down with the possibility of bench players taunting Cornell. If the box score is right Brown's Garnet Hathaway (either a good WASP names or a porn star name using a gem or your first pet and your street) pulled a facemask, and Craig Buckles, who got the first goal and already had a third period minor, retaliated, with Hathaway ejected from the game just ended and Buckles ejected with a DQ for tonight's Yale game.

This the first game I saw in person at Lynah this year (you, ah, see stuff you sometimes miss watching Redcast) and even if the score was 5-1, the most noticeable takeaway was how many openings Cornell inadvertently offered Brown near the Cornell goal: the missed check in the slot and the Brown skater slides around for an unimpeded shot at Iles (saved), the juicy rebound that wasn't cleared, Iles too far out of the net. Brown capitalized on none of those but we'll need better than luck against Yale. The upsides included the play of the first line, the power play just not on all 6 PPs, and opportunism. The best example was the second Cornell goal: Brown had an odd-man rush, the puck took quirky bounce, Bardreau got it and passed to Joakim Ryan who hit the pipe, and Bardreau was in the right place to knock in the rebound.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2013 02:16PM

TimV
Still very lame compared to the fight at the end of Union @ RPI (link in the top entry of the "Too many refs in section 7" thread) where NO DQs were assessed. Far worse fight under almost identical circumstances.

I think Hagwell seeing the game live in Troy may have been the reason Buckles got the DQ.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale - C 5 Brown 1
Posted by: Trotsky (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 23, 2013 02:56PM

billhoward
The best example was the second Cornell goal: Brown had an odd-man rush, the puck took quirky bounce, Bardreau got it and passed to Joakim Ryan who hit the pipe, and Bardreau was in the right place to knock in the rebound.
Several of the goals were on counter-attack. There was a lot of great opportunistic play in front of the Brown goalie (this may say as much about the Brown D as our O). Watching the replay today I was very impressed.

The students get a bit of a break on the penalty shot. They did stop the moronic bend over cheer (just) as the Brown skater began to move, and there was a brief "An-dy-I-les" cheer during the run-up to the shot. Not their finest moment, but not atrocious.

I'm much more worried about all the empty seats.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: BearLover (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 24, 2013 02:14AM

MattS
Really like Ferlin on the point.
Good call!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2013 02:15AM by BearLover.
 
Re: Momentum for Brown & Yale
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 24, 2013 11:20AM

You ten ten to get a Game DQ when you throw a punch and hit the official right in the head
 

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