ECAC OOC Performance 12-13

Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. [www.uscho.com] The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.

Chris '03
Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. [www.uscho.com] The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.

And at least a little beyond.

It makes a huge difference. Look at PWR right now:

3. Dartmouth
5. Yale
6. Union
12. Quinnipiac
13. Harvard
---
18. Cornell
21. SLU
22. Colgate

The conference could be headed for 4 teams in the NCAAs for the first time since the Hockey East split after 1984.

I was talking about this with a friend after Cornell kicked Michigan's ass even though we've struggled against ECAC teams (plus our 4 points against CC). Could it be the ECAC is really good this year?

ftyuv
I was talking about this with a friend after Cornell kicked Michigan's ass even though we've struggled against ECAC teams (plus our 4 points against CC). Could it be the ECAC is really good this year?

I leave it to younger, more flexible brains to be able to adapt to that kind of revolutionary concept.

Chris '03
Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. [www.uscho.com] The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.

Could someone explain the algorithm used for the decimal fractions beneath each "league vs. league" record?

ursusminor

Chris '03
Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. [www.uscho.com] The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.

Could someone explain the algorithm used for the decimal fractions beneath each "league vs. league" record?

In the total column on the right, it's winning percentage. In the other columns, it's bad programming.

I've also got that broken down by team.

jkahn
In the total column on the right, it's winning percentage. In the other columns, it's bad programming.

You could always try here instead ...

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Thank you

adamw

jkahn
In the total column on the right, it's winning percentage. In the other columns, it's bad programming.

You could always try here instead ...

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Thank you

So, the way to get around bad programming is not to program at all.

ursusminor

adamw

jkahn
In the total column on the right, it's winning percentage. In the other columns, it's bad programming.

You could always try here instead ...

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Thank you

So, the way to get around bad programming is not to program at all.

As Bill Lear (founder of Learjet) said of design simplicity, "You never have to fix anything you leave out."

I'm definitely showing my age - Lear also invented the eight track tape cartridge (the iPod/Mp3 player of the 1960s) and the radio direction finder.

Larry72
I'm definitely showing my age - Lear also invented the eight track tape cartridge (the iPod/Mp3 player of the 1960s) and the radio direction finder.

And it was after inventing the eight track that he realized that "You never have to fix anything you leave out." These were hilariously unreliable. My wife's aunt even owned a Panasonic eight track recorder which I never was able to resuscitate in spite of many repair attempts.

The only thing more out of place in a car might have been this:

marty
The only thing more out of place in a car might have been this

More of a blondes guy?

If the season ended today, there would be six ECAC teams in the tournament with Colgate being first team out. Harvard is 16 but Niagara, presumptive AHA rep, is 14.


Rk
1 Boston College
2 New Hampshire
3 Dartmouth
4 Notre Dame
5 Boston University
6 Quinnipiac
7 Western Michigan
8 Yale
9 Cornell
10 Miami
11 North Dakota
12 Minnesota
13 Union
14 Niagara
15 Denver
16 Harvard

Chris '03
If the season ended today, there would be six ECAC teams in the tournament with Colgate being first team out. Harvard is 16 but Niagara, presumptive AHA rep, is 14.


Rk
1 Boston College
2 New Hampshire
3 Dartmouth
4 Notre Dame
5 Boston University
6 Quinnipiac
7 Western Michigan
8 Yale
9 Cornell
10 Miami
11 North Dakota
12 Minnesota
13 Union
14 Niagara
15 Denver
16 Harvard

Like I said when I heard Torres scored a brace the other day. No f'n way.

This could be another December to remember where nothing helps our poll standings as not playing.

So far, the ECAC has only played 61 inter-conference games (as distinct from non-conference games) and has 37 remaining. The results are definitely encouraging, but let's not be counting chickens. IF we keep up our current .595 win % vs the Big 4 and IF our top teams don't start gacking up conference games to the bottom feeders, 4 teams is likely and 5 would be possible. On the other hand, a bad showing over Christmas (and there are quite a number of games against the BUs, BCs, and UNHs of the world) and we'll be right back to 2 maybe 3 as per usual.

I have no hard data to back up this claim, but my instinct is that several times over the past few seasons the ECAC has gotten out of the gate well only to get destroyed over the Christmas break. I really hope this year is different and the league holds up, and I think there are a couple systemic effects that are encouraging (1 - the gap between Haves and Have Nots in the ECAC has closed, 2 - the rest of the NCAA power teams except for BC seem to have come back to the pack).

We Ancients who enjoyed the ECAC's short-lived superiority over HE in the wake of the Great Divorce have been waiting more than 20 years for the ECAC to get back to parity with the other big conferences. We may be getting there (I mean, Notre Dame is 12-0, so anything can happen), but I'm going to remain somewhat pessimistic until after New Year's Day.

Robb
So far, the ECAC has only played 61 inter-conference games (as distinct from non-conference games) and has 37 remaining.

I came up with 39 remaining interconference games (ignoring Union-RPI non-conference game). Of those, only 15 are against current TUCs (16 depending on outcome of Beanpot first round). At least 7 (up to 9 depending on holiday tournament outcomes) against the WCHA, 17 (up to 19) against Hockey East, only 3 against the CCHA, and 10 against Atlantic Hockey.

You're probably right - I did a quick manual scan through the upcoming games, so it's not too surprising if I missed a couple. I had 7 or 8 against WCHA, 16 or 17 against HEA, and matched your CCHA and AHA games. Either way, there are still a lot of inter-conference games to go.

Trotsky
(I mean, Notre Dame is 12-0 FOOTBALL , so anything can happen)

FYP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God and touchdown Jesus help me if they ever go undefeated in hockey.

When one says "Notre Dame," football is logically implied. The term has no meaning in any other context.

It's like "Harvard" and "sucking."

Robb
there are still a lot of inter-conference games to go.

And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

nyc94

Robb
there are still a lot of inter-conference games to go.

And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Looks like they did it with class, too - 9 penalties for 34 minutes and they gave up a 5x3 powerplay goal in the last minute of the game.

nyc94
And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Massachusetts HE opponent. They're just getting in form for the Beanpot.

Trotsky

nyc94
And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Massachusetts HE opponent. They're just getting in form for the Beanpot.

Unfortunately for them, that's all they have left on their non-conference schedule: Northeastern and BU followed by BC in the first round of the Beanpot and the Beanpot consolation game.

nyc94

Trotsky

nyc94
And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Massachusetts HE opponent. They're just getting in form for the Beanpot.

Unfortunately for them, that's all they have left on their non-conference schedule: Northeastern and BU followed by BC in the first round of the Beanpot and the Beanpot consolation game.

Two losses to Northeastern are not going to help the league.

Neither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst. Ouch. Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Robb
Neither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst. Ouch. Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Trotsky

Robb
Neither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst. Ouch. Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Michigan salvaged a split with Western Michigan. CC was swept by St. Cloud. Denver dropped their second game with Bemidji.

Ferris is now the last TUC (27th). CC is 26th. Michigan is not a TUC. Maine and Duluth aren't either. The non-conference schedule looked good on paper.

nyc94

Trotsky

Robb
Neither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst. Ouch. Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Michigan salvaged a split with Western Michigan. CC was swept by St. Cloud. Denver dropped their second game with Bemidji.

Ferris is now the last TUC (27th). CC is 26th. Michigan is not a TUC. Maine and Duluth aren't either. The non-conference schedule looked good on paper.

Which says we've got to win our OOC games, because our playoff potential is going to ride on our W-L percentage and not much else.

Jeff Hopkins '82

nyc94

Trotsky

Robb
Neither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst. Ouch. Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Michigan salvaged a split with Western Michigan. CC was swept by St. Cloud. Denver dropped their second game with Bemidji.

Ferris is now the last TUC (27th). CC is 26th. Michigan is not a TUC. Maine and Duluth aren't either. The non-conference schedule looked good on paper.

Which says we've got to win our OOC games, because our playoff potential is going to ride on our W-L percentage and not much else.

Except that as of now, it looks like our SOS will actually be boosted by our *conference* games, so there's that. 5 of the top 13 teams are from the ECAC right now - crazy (that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).

Robb
(that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).

Red-White game doesn't count?

ftyuv

Robb
(that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).

Red-White game doesn't count?

No, but the Princeton game should. They beat themselves.

ftyuv

Robb
(that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).

Red-White game doesn't count?

It does, but the loss from that game cancels out the win.

One down and four to go before RPI gets back to the tough competition.

Hopefully our holiday tournament performance will be a little better than years past.

Trotsky
Hopefully our holiday tournament performance will be a little better than years past.

Thank you. Jeff and I were wondering when our last "first game" win in Estero was. We knew you would have the answer .

Six ECAC teams in action today. edit:And they go 1-4-1. Ouch.

Nebraska-Omaha at Quinnipiac, 12 PM ET - Q wins 5-4
Brown vs. Minnesota State in UConn Hockey Classic, 4 PM ET - Minnesota State wins 3-1
Princeton vs. Merrimack in Catamount Cup, 4 PM ET - 2-2 F OT
Union at Vermont in Catamount Cup, 7 PM ET Vermont wins 2-1
Northeastern at Harvard, 7 PM ET Northeastern wins 5-1
Cornell vs. Maine, 7 PM ET Maine wins 6-4

Also of interest tonight is BU at Denver, 7 PM MT Denver wins 6-0

RPI lost at St. Cloud Friday night, 2-1, to split the series

For some reason the CHN mobile app isn't showing the Qunnipiac game as even taking place. The CHN website has the game listed in the "live scoreboard" section, but with no score. I checked the free video, available below, and Qunnipiac is up 4-3 heading into the third.

[www.necfrontrow.com]

andyw2100
For some reason the CHN mobile app isn't showing the Qunnipiac game as even taking place. The CHN website has the game listed in the "live scoreboard" section, but with no score. I checked the free video, available below, and Qunnipiac is up 4-3 heading into the third.

[www.necfrontrow.com]

No updates on USCHO either. QU up 5-4 about halfway through the 3rd on Livestats: [livestats.prestosports.com]

Quinnipiac won 5-4.

Quinnipiac and Dartmouth are 3 and 4, respectively, in Pairwise. Yale is 7 and Cornell 12. Union is 16 and would be out of the tournament if the season ended today due to Atlantic Hockey autobid.

(Edited to reflect Quinipiac's sweep of UNO caused them to swap places with Dartmouth.)

nyc94
Dartmouth and Quinnipiac are 3 and 4, respectively, in Pairwise. Yale is 7 and Cornell 12. Union is 16 and would be out of the tournament if the season ended today due to Atlantic Hockey autobid..

As much as I root against Union, 16th is currently in the tourney because RMU of the AHA is 13th.

ursusminor

nyc94
Dartmouth and Quinnipiac are 3 and 4, respectively, in Pairwise. Yale is 7 and Cornell 12. Union is 16 and would be out of the tournament if the season ended today due to Atlantic Hockey autobid.

As much as I root against Union, 16th is currently in the tourney because RMU of the AHA is 13th.

My bad. I had only been paying attention to Niagara. RMU really moved up this weekend.

edit: Actually, it depends how you look at it. When Jayson Moy does "Bracketology" on USCHO he awards the autobid to whichever team is in first place. Niagara is in first place in Atlantic Hockey by a large margin (9-0-1 for 19 points in league games, 10-3-4 overall ) but 19 in Pairwise. RMU is way back in the Atlantic Hockey standings at 4-3-1 for 9 points (9-4-2 overall). I think if Moy wrote that column today both RMU and Niagara would be in and Union would be out.

For those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

Trotsky
For those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

I remember 1980.

Trotsky
For those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

They couldn't stand the success.

Dartmouth comes down to earth, losing to UMass 3-2.

In all, 23 penalties were called, totaling 87 minutes. That figure included two game misconducts (one aside), three five-minute majors and four 10-minute misconducts.

Each team got a SH and UMass had two on PP.

They're now 4^th in PWR. I posted the new PWR on polls thread.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
For those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

I remember 1980.

I do too. My favorite memory is Bob Gaudet trying to shoot a puck at us during warm-ups in the Boston Garden because he got tired of us calling him an ugly sieve.

Well he was.

So you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.

1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.

Jim Hyla
So you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.

1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.

How does our league KRACH look?

css228

Jim Hyla
So you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.

1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.

How does our league KRACH look?

I don't know if you were being serious or not, but here's it from CHN. No, I'm not going to clean it up, I do too much of that with the polls each week.

Rk 	Team 	KRACH 	Record 	Sched Strength
Rating 	RRWP 	Rk 	W-L-T 	Pct 	Ratio 	Rk 	SOS
1 	Boston College 	733.4 	.8554 	2 	12-3-1 	.7812 	3.571 	2 	205.3
2 	New Hampshire 	635.7 	.8379 	4 	12-3-2 	.7647 	3.250 	3 	195.6
3 	Boston University 	467.8 	.7955 	15 	10-6-0 	.6250 	1.667 	1 	280.7
4 	Quinnipiac 	435.3 	.7846 	1 	14-3-2 	.7895 	3.750 	27 	116.1
5 	Notre Dame 	432.2 	.7835 	3 	14-4-0 	.7778 	3.500 	20 	123.5
6 	Dartmouth 	393.3 	.7686 	8 	8-3-2 	.6923 	2.250 	5 	174.8
7 	Minnesota 	361.3 	.7547 	5 	13-3-3 	.7632 	3.222 	29 	112.1
8 	North Dakota 	282.3 	.7117 	14 	10-5-3 	.6389 	1.769 	7 	159.6
9 	Denver 	236.8 	.6788 	18 	10-6-3 	.6053 	1.533 	9 	154.4
10 	Miami 	224.8 	.6688 	7 	12-4-4 	.7000 	2.333 	37 	96.4
11 	St. Cloud State 	213.9 	.6590 	19 	12-8-0 	.6000 	1.500 	12 	142.6
12 	Yale 	211.2 	.6565 	16T 	7-4-2 	.6154 	1.600 	13 	132.0
13 	Minnesota State 	199.1 	.6448 	12 	12-6-2 	.6500 	1.857 	32 	107.2
14 	Cornell 	191.2 	.6367 	16T 	7-4-2 	.6154 	1.600 	21 	119.5
15 	Robert Morris 	177.2 	.6213 	10T 	9-4-2 	.6667 	2.000 	43 	88.6
16 	Western Michigan 	173.9 	.6174 	10T 	11-5-2 	.6667 	2.000 	45 	87.0
17 	Mass.-Lowell 	171.9 	.6149 	24T 	7-7-1 	.5000 	1.000 	6 	171.9
18 	Nebraska-Omaha 	168.2 	.6104 	20 	11-8-1 	.5750 	1.353 	18 	124.3
19 	Union 	162.3 	.6031 	13 	9-4-4 	.6471 	1.833 	44 	88.5
20 	Colgate 	161.3 	.6018 	22 	9-7-2 	.5556 	1.250 	15 	129.1

Not bad.

Jim Hyla

css228

Jim Hyla
So you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.

1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.

How does our league KRACH look?

I don't know if you were being serious or not, but here's it from CHN. No, I'm not going to clean it up, I do too much of that with the polls each week.

Rk 	Team 	KRACH 	Record 	Sched Strength
Rating 	RRWP 	Rk 	W-L-T 	Pct 	Ratio 	Rk 	SOS
1 	Boston College 	733.4 	.8554 	2 	12-3-1 	.7812 	3.571 	2 	205.3
2 	New Hampshire 	635.7 	.8379 	4 	12-3-2 	.7647 	3.250 	3 	195.6
3 	Boston University 	467.8 	.7955 	15 	10-6-0 	.6250 	1.667 	1 	280.7
4 	Quinnipiac 	435.3 	.7846 	1 	14-3-2 	.7895 	3.750 	27 	116.1
5 	Notre Dame 	432.2 	.7835 	3 	14-4-0 	.7778 	3.500 	20 	123.5
6 	Dartmouth 	393.3 	.7686 	8 	8-3-2 	.6923 	2.250 	5 	174.8
7 	Minnesota 	361.3 	.7547 	5 	13-3-3 	.7632 	3.222 	29 	112.1
8 	North Dakota 	282.3 	.7117 	14 	10-5-3 	.6389 	1.769 	7 	159.6
9 	Denver 	236.8 	.6788 	18 	10-6-3 	.6053 	1.533 	9 	154.4
10 	Miami 	224.8 	.6688 	7 	12-4-4 	.7000 	2.333 	37 	96.4
11 	St. Cloud State 	213.9 	.6590 	19 	12-8-0 	.6000 	1.500 	12 	142.6
12 	Yale 	211.2 	.6565 	16T 	7-4-2 	.6154 	1.600 	13 	132.0
13 	Minnesota State 	199.1 	.6448 	12 	12-6-2 	.6500 	1.857 	32 	107.2
14 	Cornell 	191.2 	.6367 	16T 	7-4-2 	.6154 	1.600 	21 	119.5
15 	Robert Morris 	177.2 	.6213 	10T 	9-4-2 	.6667 	2.000 	43 	88.6
16 	Western Michigan 	173.9 	.6174 	10T 	11-5-2 	.6667 	2.000 	45 	87.0
17 	Mass.-Lowell 	171.9 	.6149 	24T 	7-7-1 	.5000 	1.000 	6 	171.9
18 	Nebraska-Omaha 	168.2 	.6104 	20 	11-8-1 	.5750 	1.353 	18 	124.3
19 	Union 	162.3 	.6031 	13 	9-4-4 	.6471 	1.833 	44 	88.5
20 	Colgate 	161.3 	.6018 	22 	9-7-2 	.5556 	1.250 	15 	129.1

Not bad.

Better than I thought it would. I think you're right her bracket was a bit harsh, but I tend to put more stock in KRACH than PWR when it comes to rating teams, so I'd probably hold off on declaring ECAC Hockey the best conference in the country or anything crazy like that.

The funny thing is, Paula should know better. She's been posting about college hockey forever and unlike many of the troops enlisted in that effort she's... how shall I put this?... not stupid.

Trotsky
The funny thing is, Paula should know better. She's been posting about college hockey forever and unlike many of the troops enlisted in that effort she's... how shall I put this?... not stupid.

Maybe she knew something we didn't. For the ECAC, a dismal start to the weekend. I'll take the blame. Q is second in PWR. Dartmouth 7, and Yale 12. We're hanging in at 15.

Harvard trails BU 5-2 in the third, looking in top shape for their annual Beanpot SF loss.

5-4 now

Tied at 5.

Who gave them permission not to suck? 6-5 Harvard in OT.

Hvd wins 6-5

Wow! I don't want to get in more trouble than I already am on this forum, but its nice to see a team that can score, even if its Harvard. Hey, I hate the Hockey East even more than Sucks!

Redscore
Wow! I don't want to get in more trouble than I already am on this forum, but its nice to see a team that can score, even if its Harvard. Hey, I hate the Hockey East even more than Sucks!

Yeah! Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.
Now, if only we could beat somebody!?

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

The Rockefeller Center Rink is 122 feet long and 59 feet wide, which would seem to play into the Schafer style quite well.

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

Trotsky

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

ftyuv

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

I hear it's not unheard of for a "holding the stick" penalty.

ftyuv

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

Post-Giuliani, you're gonna have to go all the way out to the West Side Highway for that.

RichH

ftyuv

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

I hear it's not unheard of for a "holding the stick" penalty.

What? Nobody thought about a "butt-ending" penalty?

Jeff Hopkins '82

RichH

ftyuv

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5

KeithK

Johnny 5

Trotsky

Johnny 5
Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

I hear it's not unheard of for a "holding the stick" penalty.

What? Nobody thought about a "butt-ending" penalty?

We were all too focused on the matching minors.