Five all-Ivy slots for Big Red

Dave LeNeveu is player of the year, and earned unanimous first-team honors on the All-Ivy League men's hockey team. Ryan Vesce and Doug Murray are also on the first team, and Mark McRae gets second-team honors while Stephen Bâby earns an honorable mention.

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If Bâby earns ECAC POTY, the Ivies are going to look pretty stupid not even naming him second team.

The head coaches of the six Ivies were the ones who voted. They each get to vote in the ECAC awards, too, right? If so, the ECAC awards may follow their lead.

But they already look stupid for not even naming him second team.

Don't they vote based solely on performance in Ivy League games?

Is GOTY a separate award? If it isn't, they would look stupid for not giving the award to Lenny when he is a Hobey finalist and first team All-American.

Dartmouth got shafted in only getting one out of 12 slots on the all-Ivy team.

I can somewhat understand Jessiman not making it as a Freshman, but Stempniak should've been on the 2nd team with Byrne over either forward currently selected. And you could switch Byrne and Welch too.

I can see Cornell getting 4 all-Ivy slots based on their record. I don't see how Harvard gets 4 as well, including 3 first-teamers.

I'm pretty sure All-Ivy is based on Ivy stats only. Example - Eddie Skazyk was All-Ivy in '96 when jason Elliott was certainly the better goalie. But Eddie had better numbers in Ivy games, esp. piled up early in the year when he and Elliott were alternating.

I don't think there are Ivy scoring stats online anywhere (last I looked the Ivy site wasn't updated). I tracked Ivy stats once upon a time, but I stopped partially because I'm not sure anyone really cares.

I made a quick look. I count 15 Ivy points for Vesce, 11 for Bâby. Checking the guys from Harvard is way too much trouble.

In 1967 Doug Ferguson was first team All-America but not All-Ivy. Weird stuff.

> I'm pretty sure All-Ivy is based on Ivy stats only.

Yep. We'd have to see the scoring breakdown to see if the guys who made the 1 and 2 teams ran away with Ivy scoring.

[www.collegehockeystats.com]


Point Scoring: GP PPG G- A- P
1 Tim Pettit Harvard JR F 10 1.70 4-13-17
2 Dominic Moore Harvard SR C 10 1.60 7- 9-16
3 Ryan Vesce Cornell JR F 10 1.50 7- 8-15
4 Hugh Jessiman Dartmouth FR F 10 1.40 5- 9-14
Brett Nowak Harvard SR C 10 1.40 3-11-14
6 Brent Robinson Brown JR F 10 1.30 5- 8-13
Ryan Steeves Yale JR F 10 1.30 5- 8-13
8 Christopher Higgins Yale SO F 9 1.33 8- 4-12
Evan Wax Yale SR F 9 1.33 4- 8-12
10 Stephen Bâby Cornell SR F 10 1.10 0-11-11

Hard to believe Bâby didn't score a goal in 10 Ivy League games.