Cornell 3 Union 2

Daily Sun preview.

I haven't found an IJ preview for the Men, though there is a nice one for the Women.

Table of ECAC RS champs (ties resolved by seed). It has been too long.

Trotsky
Daily Sun preview.

I haven't found an IJ preview for the Men, though there is a nice one for the Women.

Men's preview in IJ here: [www.theithacajournal.com]|topnews|text|Sports

Team may be without Espo, Ferlin, and Gotovets.

Trotsky
Daily Sun preview.

I haven't found an IJ preview for the Men, though there is a nice one for the Women.

I hope Age catches this important line.

Also leading the team with a plus-19 rating,

And the way the IJ has been going, I'd not be surprised for them to have nothing.

edit:Now I'd be surprised.

As someone who pretends to have Dutch heritage, I am offended by Union's use of "Dutchmen" as their team name. I demand that they follow Hofstra's lead (they switched from the Flying Dutchmen to the Pride) and change their name to one of the seven deadly sins. I think Envy would work well for Union, seeing as how they are likely envious of the historical success of other ECAC teams.
(I thought about posting this in the UND thread, but decided it fit better here.)

jtn27
As someone who pretends to have Dutch heritage, I am offended by Union's use of "Dutchmen" as their team name. I demand that they follow Hofstra's lead (they switched from the Flying Dutchmen to the Pride) and change their name to one of the seven deadly sins. I think Envy would work well for Union, seeing as how they are likely envious of the historical success of other ECAC teams.

Since there are several groups that lay claim to the term "Dutch," I resent the fact that you have appointed yourself and your group spokesperson for all of them, and I will note that the following groups fully support Union College's use of the name "Dutchmen" for their athletics programs:

The Pennsylvania Dutch
Dutch Oven Manufacturers Association
Dutch Boy Paint Co.
The town of Dutch Harbor, Alaska
Ed O'Neill, star of the 1991 film "Dutch"
The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Library

Union will therefore continue to use this nickname until there is unanimity on the issue.

Chanting "Tulip Bubble clap clap clapclapcap" will be considered racist and incendiary.

Beeeej

jtn27
As someone who pretends to have Dutch heritage, I am offended by Union's use of "Dutchmen" as their team name. I demand that they follow Hofstra's lead (they switched from the Flying Dutchmen to the Pride) and change their name to one of the seven deadly sins. I think Envy would work well for Union, seeing as how they are likely envious of the historical success of other ECAC teams.

Since there are several groups that lay claim to the term "Dutch," I resent the fact that you have appointed yourself and your group spokesperson for all of them, and I will note that the following groups fully support Union College's use of the name "Dutchmen" for their athletics programs:

The Pennsylvania Dutch
Dutch Oven Manufacturers Association
Dutch Boy Paint Co.
The town of Dutch Harbor, Alaska
Ed O'Neill, star of the 1991 film "Dutch"
The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Library

Union will therefore continue to use this nickname until there is unanimity on the issue.

I would like to point out that the Pennsylvania Dutch are actually of German descent and Ronald Reagan was of English, Irish, and Scottish descent. Since they only pretend to be Dutch and are not actually Dutch, they have no credibility on this issue. (Please ignore the inconvenient fact that I have already admitted to not actually being Dutch either).

jtn27
As someone who pretends to have Dutch heritage, I am offended by Union's use of "Dutchmen" as their team name. I demand that they follow Hofstra's lead (they switched from the Flying Dutchmen to the Pride) and change their name to one of the seven deadly sins. I think Envy would work well for Union, seeing as how they are likely envious of the historical success of other ECAC teams.
(I thought about posting this in the UND thread, but decided it fit better here.)

As a descendant of French Huguenots I take issue with you claiming to represent peoples who pretend to have Dutch heritage and demand you cease and desist immediately.

css228

jtn27
As someone who pretends to have Dutch heritage, I am offended by Union's use of "Dutchmen" as their team name. I demand that they follow Hofstra's lead (they switched from the Flying Dutchmen to the Pride) and change their name to one of the seven deadly sins. I think Envy would work well for Union, seeing as how they are likely envious of the historical success of other ECAC teams.
(I thought about posting this in the UND thread, but decided it fit better here.)

As a descendant of French Huguenots I take issue with you claiming to represent peoples who pretend to have Dutch heritage and demand you cease and desist immediately.

As someone who grew up on Long Island, a former Dutch colony, I have just as much of a right to claim to represent pretend Dutch peoples as you do.

Did someone say Dutchmen?

This thread is becoming a Boer.

Trotsky
This thread is becoming a Boer.

Racist.

jtn27

Beeeej

jtn27
As someone who pretends to have Dutch heritage, I am offended by Union's use of "Dutchmen" as their team name. I demand that they follow Hofstra's lead (they switched from the Flying Dutchmen to the Pride) and change their name to one of the seven deadly sins. I think Envy would work well for Union, seeing as how they are likely envious of the historical success of other ECAC teams.

Since there are several groups that lay claim to the term "Dutch," I resent the fact that you have appointed yourself and your group spokesperson for all of them, and I will note that the following groups fully support Union College's use of the name "Dutchmen" for their athletics programs:

The Pennsylvania Dutch
Dutch Oven Manufacturers Association
Dutch Boy Paint Co.
The town of Dutch Harbor, Alaska
Ed O'Neill, star of the 1991 film "Dutch"
The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Library

Union will therefore continue to use this nickname until there is unanimity on the issue.

I would like to point out that the Pennsylvania Dutch are actually of German descent and Ronald Reagan was of English, Irish, and Scottish descent. Since they only pretend to be Dutch and are not actually Dutch, they have no credibility on this issue. (Please ignore the inconvenient fact that I have already admitted to not actually being Dutch either).

Although the local "Dutchies" here in PA say "If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much" I'd have to say that they tend to be backwards farmers.

Go Red. Hex the Dutchies!

This is some pretty fine thread-drift for a pre-game thread.

andyw2100
This is some pretty fine thread-drift for a pre-game thread.

What I'm more impressed by is the fact the OP knows the score already!

Confirmed: Espo, Ferlin and Gotovets are all scratches.

Trotsky
Confirmed: Espo, Ferlin and Gotovets are all scratches.

We knew (or at least suspected) that Espo and Ferlin could be out, but happened to Gotevets?

jtn27

Trotsky
Confirmed: Espo, Ferlin and Gotovets are all scratches.

We knew (or at least suspected) that Espo and Ferlin could be out, but happened to Gotevets?

Hurt vs SLU.

Trotsky
Table of ECAC RS champs (ties resolved by seed). It has been too long.

From the I'm-Really-Going-To-Be-Sorry-I-Pointed-This-Out department:

Whenever Cornell has been the #1 seed in the ECAC tournament in a season ending in the number 2 (1972, 2002), they've lost the ECAC championship game.

Whenever Cornell has been the #1 seed in a season not ending in the number 2, they've won the championship.

Give My Regards

Trotsky
Table of ECAC RS champs (ties resolved by seed). It has been too long.

From the I'm-Really-Going-To-Be-Sorry-I-Pointed-This-Out department:

Whenever Cornell has been the #1 seed in the ECAC tournament in a season ending in the number 2 (1972, 2002), they've lost the ECAC championship game.

Whenever Cornell has been the #1 seed in a season not ending in the number 2, they've won the championship.

In 1972 the ECAC championship game was four days before the new moon. This year it's 5 days before. But in 2002 it was two days after the new moon. So there's no correlation whatsoever!!!

KeithK

Give My Regards

Trotsky
Table of ECAC RS champs (ties resolved by seed). It has been too long.

From the I'm-Really-Going-To-Be-Sorry-I-Pointed-This-Out department:

Whenever Cornell has been the #1 seed in the ECAC tournament in a season ending in the number 2 (1972, 2002), they've lost the ECAC championship game.

Whenever Cornell has been the #1 seed in a season not ending in the number 2, they've won the championship.

In 1972 the ECAC championship game was four days before the new moon. This year it's 5 days before. But in 2002 it was two days after the new moon. So there's no correlation whatsoever!!!

Freakin' genius. Whew - dodged a bullet, there!

Union may have tranny trouble.

marty
Union may have tranny trouble.

That sounds like something from a completely different type of forum

Cornell now in a 4-way tie for 7th in the PWR, with Union dropping to 11th.

BU kicking high holy hell out of UVM tonight.

jld22
Cornell now in a 4-way tie for 7th in the PWR, with Union dropping to 11th.

Effectively this make us 10th as we have the lowest RPI. My gut feeling is we can afford one loss and still get an at large bid. I think we want Harvard to win enough to stay a TUC.

Cornell is now 2 for 2 in games where that the opposing team's fans chant "scoreboard" before the third period. Hopefully, they'll keep doing that.

Also, on ECACHockey.com we're still listed as being in 2nd place. What's up with that?

Ideally, Cornell could play (and sweep) and TUC in the QF. Don't know if that's possible based on the standings. Also don't know if the sweep would send that team over the cliff...

jtn27
Cornell is now 2 for 2 in games where that the opposing team's fans chant "scoreboard" before the third period. Hopefully, they'll keep doing that.

Also, on ECACHockey.com we're still listed as being in 2nd place. What's up with that?

Union has more wins? Maybe tiebreakers come into play only after the last game is played.

Edit: thinking about it more, the two teams are tied for first, and if that holds after tomorrow night, they will share the title and pisspot. Head-to-head is used only to determine seeding for the tournament if tied.

Rodger Craig scored more goals than Austin Smith tonight.

Saw this retweet in Brian Sullivan's Twitter feed:

Brown coach Whittet has a meltdown after slashing call. He is called for unsportsmanlike, flips off ref and is ejected. #ECACHockey

jld22
Cornell now in a 4-way tie for 7th in the PWR, with Union dropping to 11th.

God bless PWR. We are 21st in KRACH.

Trotsky

jld22
Cornell now in a 4-way tie for 7th in the PWR, with Union dropping to 11th.

God bless PWR. We are 21st in KRACH.

And 2 of the teams we're tied with (at 10:30 PM) are losing in the 3rd period.

Colgate put 51 shots on RPI goal tonight.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

jld22
Cornell now in a 4-way tie for 7th in the PWR, with Union dropping to 11th.

God bless PWR. We are 21st in KRACH.

And 2 of the teams we're tied with (at 10:30 PM) are losing in the 3rd period.

Something else happened to drop MSU out of the tie, AND they're still losing to Notre Dame (2-0 with ~11 min to go in the 3rd). Minny has tied up UNO, 7:45 to go in the 3rd.

nyc94
Saw this retweet in Brian Sullivan's Twitter feed:

Brown coach Whittet has a meltdown after slashing call. He is called for unsportsmanlike, flips off ref and is ejected. #ECACHockey

[www.collegehockeystats.net]

A very entertaining game tonight. The first period was very rough but after that they boys played with more focus. There was still too many defensive lapses but Iles was on his game and bailed them out when necessary. The defensive zone passing was questionable at times. The deflection by McCarron was a very nice to watch. Craig's goal was just plain simple hard work. A great finish for some hard work along the boards and a nice quick shot.

I thought that Craig's goal was a gem by Whitney. Whitney held the puck in the Cornell zone until the line change occurred. He then made a beauty of a pass which Craig finished with a great move along the boards. Replay!

Best part of tonight is right after the goalie name spell chant a Union fan who somehow found his way into Section B turned to me and said that Grosenick was the best goalie in the league. Iles spent the rest of the night showing him up.

css228
Best part of tonight is right after the goalie name spell chant a Union fan who somehow found his way into Section B turned to me and said that Grosenick was the best goalie in the league. Iles spent the rest of the night showing him up.

The best part was following up Union's "why so quiet?" chant with a goal.

BTW, do they have any cheers they didn't blatantly steal from us?

Here's a new chant for Onion.

French Rage
BTW, do they have any cheers they didn't blatantly steal from us?

To be fair, they may have stolen it from someone who stole it from us.

I dunno who we stole it from, but considering Liverpool has been doing it since the 1890's...

Trotsky

French Rage
BTW, do they have any cheers they didn't blatantly steal from us?

To be fair, they may have stolen it from someone who stole it from us.

I dunno who we stole it from, but considering Liverpool has been doing it since the 1890's...

If it was Liverpool, they probably stole it from somewhere else first.

And if we're stealing things from Merseyside, I want to see our boys


rap.

Ben

Trotsky

French Rage
BTW, do they have any cheers they didn't blatantly steal from us?

To be fair, they may have stolen it from someone who stole it from us.

I dunno who we stole it from, but considering Liverpool has been doing it since the 1890's...

If it was Liverpool, they probably stole it from somewhere else first.

And if we're stealing things from Merseyside, I want to see our boys


rap.

Maybe they could do the Whitelaw Cup Shuffle?

Fun Fact of the Day: with Brown clinching last place, Cornell will have lost a game to the 12th place team for the first time since 1998.

Here's the McCarron non-goal. Discuss. Edit: Use 720p resolution to see the puck better.




Edit #2
Craig's GWG:

In slo-mo, the net appears to bulge. Back in the day, they used loose netting that would snag the puck.

Trotsky
Fun Fact of the Day: with Brown clinching last place, Cornell will have lost a game to the 12th place team for the first time since 1998.

Actually, Brown could still take 11th place on a tie-breaker if they beat Princeton, and RPI doesn't lose to us, thanks to a better record vs the top 4. (Brown wins a two-team tie-breaker with Princeton, but if there's a three-team tie-breaker with Princeton, Brown and RPI, Princeton wins that.)

George64
In slo-mo, the net appears to bulge.

Sure does. I really can't make out the puck until it's already back out, but the net should not move like that from a crossbar strike.

Trotsky
Hurt vs SLU.

I guess I'm rooting for Hurt.

jtwcornell91

Trotsky
Fun Fact of the Day: with Brown clinching last place, Cornell will have lost a game to the 12th place team for the first time since 1998.

Actually, Brown could still take 11th place on a tie-breaker if they beat Princeton, and RPI doesn't lose to us, thanks to a better record vs the top 4. (Brown wins a two-team tie-breaker with Princeton, but if there's a three-team tie-breaker with Princeton, Brown and RPI, Princeton wins that.)

Damn you and your math!!!

Robb

George64
In slo-mo, the net appears to bulge.

Sure does. I really can't make out the puck until it's already back out, but the net should not move like that from a crossbar strike.

I lose the puck once it gets around the goalie until it pops back out. I can't tell if it is actually the net bulging, or if it is that water droplet on the glass distorting the image as the camera moves a little bit. I feel like with how it came off the bar once you can see it again it was probably just post, the ref was right on top of the play.

Jacob '06

Robb

George64
In slo-mo, the net appears to bulge.

Sure does. I really can't make out the puck until it's already back out, but the net should not move like that from a crossbar strike.

I lose the puck once it gets around the goalie until it pops back out. I can't tell if it is actually the net bulging, or if it is that water droplet on the glass distorting the image as the camera moves a little bit. I feel like with how it came off the bar once you can see it again it was probably just post, the ref was right on top of the play.

From where I was sitting in Section A, it looked like the puck had hit the crossbar. However, I couldn't tell whether it hit the inner part of the bar on goal side of the red line or the outer part. From the video, I still can't tell. I think they made the right call by letting play continue, but they should have reviewed it.

Jacob '06

Robb

George64
In slo-mo, the net appears to bulge.

Sure does. I really can't make out the puck until it's already back out, but the net should not move like that from a crossbar strike.

I lose the puck once it gets around the goalie until it pops back out. I can't tell if it is actually the net bulging, or if it is that water droplet on the glass distorting the image as the camera moves a little bit. I feel like with how it came off the bar once you can see it again it was probably just post, the ref was right on top of the play.

Upon further review, you might be right about the water droplet, but an uncanny coincidence.

George64
Upon further review, you might be right about the water droplet, but an uncanny coincidence.

I agree that it might be a water droplet and that timing is pretty incredible. Sorry for the watermark, but here's the best I could do quickly:



Edit: For what it's worth, at the moment it happened, it truly appeared to be off the crossbar, as jtn27 mentioned.

that looks to me like a goal. based on where the puck reapears after going towards the goal and the angle. i dont think you could get that angle off a the bar, but you could if it went under the bar. but i suppose it could be coming at an angle more towards us than it looks.. the ref was right there he should have seen enough to know whether to review or not.

Actually looks to me like it grazed the bar, hitting the netting in the sag above the water bottle, causing it to lose a lot of momentum coming back out.