Cornell 4 Yale 2

Union (1st place) and Harvard (4th) were idle tonight.

All teams now have 18 GP.

26 Uni
25 Cor vs Yal (Won)
23 Col vs Brn (Won)
20 Hvd
19 Clk vs Qpc (Lost)
18 Qpc at Clk (Won)
17 SLU vs Prn (Won)
15 Drt vs RPI (Lost)
15 Yal at Cor (Lost)
13 Prn at SLU (Lost)
13 RPI at Drt (Won)
12 Brn at Col (Lost)

Espo and Birch are back.

But D'Ags is out.

who scored?

mhand06
who scored?

Collins, Collins, Jillson, McCarron. Halfway through the game, 4-zip.

That 4-point weekend was the first at home against Yale-Brown since the new traveling partnerships began in 2006. The only other pairing against which Cornell has not had a 4-point weekend during that time is the North Country road trip.

Interesting - didn't realize that '03 and '05 had the exact same 4-point weekends.

Why was D'Agostino out?

Also, not thrilled with how Schafer has used Esposito the last two games. I don't get it. If he isn't well enough to play decent minutes (and I definitely noticed him limping a bit at times) then why dress him? He's the team's most offensively creative player. Putting him on the fourth line isn't going to do much... why not play him on the power play?

I can nitpick some more, but I'm not going to. It was a fun game. The Collins line played great. We won.

Ivy Champs!

Greg M
Why was D'Agostino out?

Per the pre-game interview, D'Ags was out with an unspecified injury. It didn't sound serious.

The Collins line was insane. I haven't seen a line dominate like that since... well, since Yale's first line last year.

Trotsky
The Collins line was insane. I haven't seen a line dominate like that since... well, since Yale's first line last year.

On the ice for three goals against Yale in New Haven, too: Lowry from Collins and McCarron; Lowry from McCarron and D'Agostino; and Gotovets from Collins and Whitney.

Trotsky
That 4-point weekend was the first at home against Yale-Brown since the new traveling partnerships began in 2006. The only other pairing against which Cornell has not had a 4-point weekend during that time is the North Country road trip.

A reminder that we went between '86 and '02 without a 4-point weekend up there.

Too many late-game fights this weekend. Maybe a scouting report says Cornell can be goaded?

During the pre game Schafer said that Esposito's injury was not one that would not worsenfrom play but that it will take the off season for full recovery.

marty
During the pre game Schafer said that Esposito's injury was not one that would not worsenfrom play but that it will take the off season for full recovery.

Players play hurt, but they should not play injured. This is one of those sucky situations where Espo is going to have a lot of pain but it doesn't mean he's exacerbating the injury. Happens all the time in sports -- it's one of their unsung heroics.

RichH

Trotsky
That 4-point weekend was the first at home against Yale-Brown since the new traveling partnerships began in 2006. The only other pairing against which Cornell has not had a 4-point weekend during that time is the North Country road trip.

A reminder that we went between '86 and '02 without a 4-point weekend up there.

It's not a fun place.

In other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

Trotsky
In other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?

I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.

billhoward
Too many late-game fights this weekend. Maybe a scouting report says Cornell can be goaded?

Wouldn't you try to do that earlier in the game rather than later?

jtn27
I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.

One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.

css228

jtn27
I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.

One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.

The concern was that we are not scoring, not that we're scored upon. I agree, it's suspect. I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

Greg M

We won.

Ivy Champs!

Last night they were awarded a giant plaque for the Ivy League Championship, and Greg reminded me that Yale had it the for last three years. Thus they clearly had to have brought it with them. Must have been funny for their team to see it being loaded onto the bus when they left New Haven. Harkness would have left it home and UPSd it later. Oh, wait- Harkness would'nt lose it.

Jim Hyla

css228

jtn27
I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.

One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.

The concern was that we are not scoring, not that we're scored upon. I agree, it's suspect. I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

There are situations where you want to play conservative and stop trying to score more goals — last night was one of those situations. The team was able to practice D and kill off about 15 minutes of time before the first Yale goal was scored. This experience was more valuable for developing the team than trying to score more. If we played like we did in the first period, our defense would also be more exposed and would give Yale a better chance at a come back. However, there are concerns about momentum when all you're doing is trying to preserve a lead, which the team very well knows at this point.

Jim Hyla
I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

Right. Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game. Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games. You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.

ajh258

Jim Hyla

css228

jtn27
I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.

One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.

The concern was that we are not scoring, not that we're scored upon. I agree, it's suspect. I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

There are situations where you want to play conservative and stop trying to score more goals — last night was one of those situations. The team was able to practice D and kill off about 15 minutes of time before the first Yale goal was scored. This experience was more valuable for developing the team than trying to score more. If we played like we did in the first period, our defense would also be more exposed and would give Yale a better chance at a come back. However, there are concerns about momentum when all you're doing is trying to preserve a lead, which the team very well knows at this point.

I agree that we might have been practicing the lock down defense that Cornell has been so adept at in prior years. Last night it seemed like Schafer was calling off the dogs bears.

Al DeFlorio

Jim Hyla
I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

Right. Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game. Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games. You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.

Absolutely, but its more than a little questionable that every scrum that occurred this weekend resulted in us killing a penalty, even if we didn't instigate it. You'd think some of those would end up being offset entirely. Regardless, we need to just take the high road late in games.

css228

Al DeFlorio

Jim Hyla
I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

Right. Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game. Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games. You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.

Absolutely, but its more than a little questionable that every scrum that occurred this weekend resulted in us killing a penalty, even if we didn't instigate it. You'd think some of those would end up being offset entirely. Regardless, we need to just take the high road late in games.

I'm concerned less about the late-game scrums (dumb as it is to be suckered into them) and more about individual penalties taken in the offensive zone, of which we've taken more than our fair share throughout the season.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
In other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?

Sorry. The new version has it. Also data labels.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
In other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?

Sorry. The new version has it. Also data labels.

How hard would it be to add "blank" (maybe white) wedges for Union and Quinnipiac to represent the years they were not in the league, so that a wedge of X degrees represents the same number of seasons for each team? (For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing pie charts Vermont and Army added in the same way.)

jtwcornell91
How hard would it be to add "blank" (maybe white) wedges for Union and Quinnipiac to represent the years they were not in the league, so that a wedge of X degrees represents the same number of seasons for each team? (For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing pie charts Vermont and Army added in the same way.)

I think this change would miss the point of the chart. If you want to compare numbers, compare numbers: the point of the chart is to visualize a team's proportion of top 1/3:middle 1/3:bottom 1/3 finishes.

anyone hear if the dude who got clocked and bled all over suffered more than just stiches in his head?

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
In other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?

Sorry. The new version has it. Also data labels.

That's nice, seeing all that Red.Now if I could only find a red smiley my world would be complete.

upprdeck
anyone hear if the dude who got clocked and bled all over suffered more than just stiches in his head?

He went right in front of me as they were taking him out. He looked to be a mess, with blood running down his face and all over his shirt, but seemed to be walking under his own power and talking with the EMTs. "Dude" was an elderly gentleman, probably late 60s or older

Al DeFlorio

css228

Al DeFlorio

Jim Hyla
I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.

Right. Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game. Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games. You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.

Absolutely, but its more than a little questionable that every scrum that occurred this weekend resulted in us killing a penalty, even if we didn't instigate it. You'd think some of those would end up being offset entirely. Regardless, we need to just take the high road late in games.

I'm concerned less about the late-game scrums (dumb as it is to be suckered into them) and more about individual penalties taken in the offensive zone, of which we've taken more than our fair share throughout the season.

Friday scrum was OK with me. Axell was standing up for Mihalek who was absolutely creamed with a good hard check right in from of me. But Saturday night's was just crap that they need to be smart enough not to get involved in.

Can someone explain something to me? Yale player gets a 5 minute major for something (face mask?) in one of the 3rd period scrums. Cornell player gets 2 minutes for roughing or high-sticking or something. Yale gets a power play. Huh?

I always thought if you get a five minute major you play a man down for five full minutes (unless it's matching majors). When did this rule change?

Edit: Never mind. I missed Lowry's 5 for cross-checking.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Can someone explain something to me? Yale player gets a 5 minute major for something (face mask?) in one of the 3rd period scrums. Cornell player gets 2 minutes for roughing or high-sticking or something. Yale gets a power play. Huh?

I always thought if you get a five minute major you play a man down for five full minutes (unless it's matching majors). When did this rule change?

Looks like there were matching majors; Lowry got 5+2

	 YAL-5 Clinton Bourbonais (5-FACEMASKING) 	18:33 
	 COR-7 Joel Lowry (5-Cross-Checking) 	18:33 
	 COR-8 Joel Lowry (2-Unsportsmanlike Conduct) YAL 1x6 	18:33

So Bourbonais and Lowry both go into the box, along with another Cornellian to serve Lowry's minor. Only the minor gets put on the board, but Bourbonais sits for five minutes, and Lowry sits for five minutes from the end of the minor (which as it turns out was at 19:10 when Yale scored the 5x3 PPG). Of course since there was no overtime, they just sat for the rest of the game.

jtwcornell91

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
In other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?

Sorry. The new version has it. Also data labels.

How hard would it be to add "blank" (maybe white) wedges for Union and Quinnipiac to represent the years they were not in the league, so that a wedge of X degrees represents the same number of seasons for each team? (For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing pie charts Vermont and Army added in the same way.)

I'll definitely add UVM and Army. Army might just be a big green urinal cake.

I was also planning on going back to the beginning of the conference ("thirds" would take on a variable meaning in absolute standing) with another chart.

If I were competent I would be able to make them highly interactive charts with slider bars for the years you wanted to display, etc. But if I were competent I'd charge.

Trotsky
But if I were competent I'd charge.

Don't give Age any ideas.....

Greg M
Ivy Champs!

I don't care if it's not as important as the other titles the team hopes to win; it's a championship to be won, and goddammit, better us than than anybody else.

Josh '99

Greg M
Ivy Champs!

I don't care if it's not as important as the other titles the team hopes to win; it's a championship to be won, and goddammit, better us than than anybody else.

Certainly the team was excited about winning it, and that's important.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Josh '99

Greg M
Ivy Champs!

I don't care if it's not as important as the other titles the team hopes to win; it's a championship to be won, and goddammit, better us than than anybody else.

Certainly the team was excited about winning it, and that's important.

It's a banner.

It seems weird to think that it's been SIX years since we last hoisted that one.

RichH

Jeff Hopkins '82

Josh '99

Greg M
Ivy Champs!

I don't care if it's not as important as the other titles the team hopes to win; it's a championship to be won, and goddammit, better us than than anybody else.

Certainly the team was excited about winning it, and that's important.

It's a banner.

It seems weird to think that it's been SEVEN years since we last hoisted that one.

FYP

Collins Goal #1:



Collins Goal #2 with McCarron feverishly/humorously trying to stay onside:




With regard to the fisticuffs/late penalties on Saturday, it seemed obvious to me that Yale was trying all game to goad our guys into fights and stupid penalties. I noted to my friends how restrained they were to the Yale chirping/provocation compared to Friday night. Only after we were up 4 did they seem to take the bait and the really late stuff seemed more of a middle finger to Yale because they could. I definitely would like to see them take the high road in the such situations and not even give them a late chance.

Regarding the 6 on 3 goal mentioned earlier, it was actually only a 5 on 3 and I thought it was a little strange they didn't pull their sieve, but I guess it worked for them.

On some other notes, I thought Espo looked pretty good when he wasn't limping off the ice, but of course I'd love to see him fully healed with more ice time. Ferlin continued to look fantastic and I agree with Schafer that it's kind of amazing the Ferlin/Miller/Mowrey couldn't get one in the back of the net given their chances.

Since we're on a Yale thread, what do Yale, AIC and UConn have in common?

Answer: They are the only three teams in the country to lose to Sacred Heart this season. UConn joined this select group on Sunday, when it lost to Sacred Heart 2-1 in overtime.

TheMatrix
Regarding the 6 on 3 goal mentioned earlier, it was actually only a 5 on 3 and I thought it was a little strange they didn't pull their sieve, but I guess it worked for them.{/quote} Thought it was but it happened so quickly off the faceoff that I must have seen the sieve go off for the delayed penalty and not see him come back on.

Specifics on the Espo injury in today's Ithaca Journal: [www.theithacajournal.com]|topnews|text|Sports

Al DeFlorio
Specifics on the Espo injury in today's Ithaca Journal: [www.theithacajournal.com]|topnews|text|Sports

Anybody who's had a severe high ankle sprain can sympathize. They are annoyingly painful and seem to take forever to heal.

I hope he has the team's Iron Man award locked up - certainly don't want anybody else to have to battle through worse injuries between now and April 7!

Trotsky

Al DeFlorio
Specifics on the Espo injury in today's Ithaca Journal: [www.theithacajournal.com]|topnews|text|Sports

Anybody who's had a severe high ankle sprain can sympathize. They are annoyingly painful and seem to take forever to heal.

All the more important that we seem to be zeroing in on a first-round bye.

Scersk '97

Trotsky

Al DeFlorio
Specifics on the Espo injury in today's Ithaca Journal: [www.theithacajournal.com]|topnews|text|Sports

Anybody who's had a severe high ankle sprain can sympathize. They are annoyingly painful and seem to take forever to heal.

All the more important that we seem to be zeroing in on a first-round bye.

We're 6 ahead of Clarkson and 7 on Q. So beating Clarkson Friday would do it.

Jim Hyla

Scersk '97

Trotsky

Al DeFlorio
Specifics on the Espo injury in today's Ithaca Journal: [www.theithacajournal.com]|topnews|text|Sports

Anybody who's had a severe high ankle sprain can sympathize. They are annoyingly painful and seem to take forever to heal.

All the more important that we seem to be zeroing in on a first-round bye.

We're 6 ahead of Clarkson and 7 on Q. So beating Clarkson Friday would do it.

Based on the ECAC in a nutshell page (thanks JTW!), any combination of 2 points in the last 4 games would do it.