Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by Josh '99
Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---)
Date: February 26, 2003 05:40PM
OK, so we know that LeNeveu has tied Dryden's school single-season shutouts record at 6, and we know that he's currently got a lower GAA than Dryden's best single season (1.21 vs. Dryden's 1.46). So my question is, what's the NCAA record for the lowest single-season GAA? I can't seem to find it anywhere. (For comparison, Ryan Miller's GAA during his Hobey-winning and 10-shutout season was 1.32.)
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Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: beanmaestro (---)
Date: February 26, 2003 08:13PM
I don't know for sure, but probably someone from the stone ages of hockey, or from a team that played a short, squishy schedule & shut everyone out.
I looked at the NHL GAA records, and the top ten seasons were all in the late 1920's, and some of them below 1.00. Then again, I seem to recall the rules were different then
I looked at the NHL GAA records, and the top ten seasons were all in the late 1920's, and some of them below 1.00. Then again, I seem to recall the rules were different then
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---)
Date: February 26, 2003 08:34PM
Jon Getty '96 wrote:
One major difference was that all passes had to be 'onsides,' meaning 'not forward.' [Isn't that how rugby is played?] Made it a bit tougher on an odd-man rush, I'd say.
I looked at the NHL GAA records, and the top ten seasons were all in the late 1920's, and some of them below 1.00. Then again, I seem to recall the rules were different then
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: February 27, 2003 01:59AM
Here are all the NCAA D-1 GAA < 1.30 that I could find (from records 1962-88 east and 1953-88 west):
1.27 1962 Godfrey Wood, Harvard
1.27 1958 Bob Peters, North Dakota
1.29 1968 Ken Dryden, Cornell
The discrepancy in the Dryden record (yes, that's for 68, not 67) suggests to me that the D-1 record is for games vs. D-1 opponents only (e.g., not Canadian colleges), or that the Finney record book has some mistakes.
1.27 1962 Godfrey Wood, Harvard
1.27 1958 Bob Peters, North Dakota
1.29 1968 Ken Dryden, Cornell
The discrepancy in the Dryden record (yes, that's for 68, not 67) suggests to me that the D-1 record is for games vs. D-1 opponents only (e.g., not Canadian colleges), or that the Finney record book has some mistakes.
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: rhovorka (---)
Date: February 27, 2003 03:18AM
Well, just doing some snooping at certain school's websites, I found that Dartmouth's team record for a single season GAA was 0.83 Don Tobin '22 (1922 — 6 games). From [www.dartmouth.edu]
So it's probably best to define a "modern era" where the stats are more meaningful. Start of the NCAA Tournament in 1948, for example?
So it's probably best to define a "modern era" where the stats are more meaningful. Start of the NCAA Tournament in 1948, for example?
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: zg88 (---)
Date: February 27, 2003 10:18AM
Jon Getty '96 wrote:
[Q]...probably someone from the stone ages of hockey, or from a team that played a short, squishy schedule & shut everyone out.[/Q]
Hmmm... like Cornell in '07 and '08? (six total games -- no goals against). I dunno 'bout the "squishy" part (for all I know, Rochester coulda been a hockey powerhouse back then...), but I'll bet whoever tended goal for the Big Red during those seasons had some pretty impressive numbers...
Greg wrote:
[Q]......
1.29 1968 Ken Dryden, Cornell
The discrepancy in the Dryden record (yes, that's for 68, not 67) suggests to me that the D-1 record is for games vs. D-1 opponents only (e.g., not Canadian colleges), or that the Finney record book has some mistakes.[/Q]
Since Dryden's overall GAA for '68 was 1.52, and excluding the (4?) games against Canadian teams would've increased -- not decreased -- his GAA (1 total goal against in those 4 games), I'd say that this particular record book does indeed have some mistakes...
Nuthin' like a li'l history to lure me out of "lurk mode"...... OK, I go bye-bye now......
LGR!!!
[Q]...probably someone from the stone ages of hockey, or from a team that played a short, squishy schedule & shut everyone out.[/Q]
Hmmm... like Cornell in '07 and '08? (six total games -- no goals against). I dunno 'bout the "squishy" part (for all I know, Rochester coulda been a hockey powerhouse back then...), but I'll bet whoever tended goal for the Big Red during those seasons had some pretty impressive numbers...
Greg wrote:
[Q]......
1.29 1968 Ken Dryden, Cornell
The discrepancy in the Dryden record (yes, that's for 68, not 67) suggests to me that the D-1 record is for games vs. D-1 opponents only (e.g., not Canadian colleges), or that the Finney record book has some mistakes.[/Q]
Since Dryden's overall GAA for '68 was 1.52, and excluding the (4?) games against Canadian teams would've increased -- not decreased -- his GAA (1 total goal against in those 4 games), I'd say that this particular record book does indeed have some mistakes...
Nuthin' like a li'l history to lure me out of "lurk mode"...... OK, I go bye-bye now......
LGR!!!
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---)
Date: February 27, 2003 10:33AM
Ol' Godfrey let in a clunker (from the blue or red line--on a bounce), IIRC, for Cornell's winning goal in the winter 1962 game at Lynah. Cornell's first big win ever, 2-1. 48 saves for Laing Kennedy.
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: Greg Berge (---.dial.spiritone.com)
Date: February 27, 2003 01:22PM
The other thing I could thing of was if the post-season was not counted. Considering that book was compiled from NCAA sources, I'd say (a) we'll never know and (b) the original NCAA data may have been compiled from incomplete boxes.
Re: Single-Season GAA Record?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.stny.rr.com)
Date: February 27, 2003 05:57PM
What's strange is that on the NCAA website, there are pretty good record "books" (in PDF format) for other sports... football, basketball, soccer, among others, but other than Frozen Four history, nothing for hockey.
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