ECAC Media and Coaches polls

Apologies if this has already been posted.
[www.dailygazette.com]

First-place votes in parentheses
Coaches
1. Yale (11) 121
2. Cornell (1) 92
3. Union 86
4. RPI 79
5. Colgate 69
6. Dartmouth 67
7. Harvard 62
8. Quinnipiac 54
9. St. Lawrence 52
10. Princeton 43
11. Brown 34
12. Clarkson 33

Media
1. Yale (25) 354
2. Cornell (2) 288
3. Union (1) 276
4. Colgate (2) 263
5. RPI 211
6. Dartmouth 188
7. St. Lawrence 172
8. Quinnipiac 142
9. Princeton 135
10. Harvard 120
11. Brown 118
12. Clarkson 82

[www.unionathletics.com]

Coaches’ Preseason All-Conference Team:
Goaltender - A. York, Rensselaer
Defense – G. Hughes, St. Lawrence
Defense – E. Stephens, Dartmouth
Forward – B. Little, Yale
Forward – C. Polacek, Rensselaer
Forward – A. Smith, Colgate

From a post on USCHO, the media went with Keith Kincaid in goal and Nick D'Agostino instead of George Hughes on defense for the preseason all-league team.

Given all the offense we've lost -- not to mention the ECAC's top goalie -- it's rather surprising that we're ranked so high. I look at it as the ultimate compliment to Schafer's coaching.

scoop85
Given all the offense we've lost -- not to mention the ECAC's top goalie -- it's rather surprising that we're ranked so high. I look at it as the ultimate compliment to Schafer's coaching.

Could also be a reflection of a down year for the league. Or maybe the voters just aren't thinking about it that hard.

Trotsky

scoop85
Given all the offense we've lost -- not to mention the ECAC's top goalie -- it's rather surprising that we're ranked so high. I look at it as the ultimate compliment to Schafer's coaching.

Could also be a reflection of a down year for the league. Or maybe the voters just aren't thinking about it that hard.

Perhaps they looked at the six goal-scorers from the ECAC semis and finals and realized only one of them left?

(I doubt it, but it's still nice to think about.)

Can someone explain how they got the points in the coaches poll?

My usual take is if there are 12 places in the poll, a 1st place vote is worth 12 pts, 2nd is worth 11 pts, and so on.

Yale got 11 first place votes, which is 132 pts > 121 (printed number).

About the only way I could suggest this is if this poll is skewed (1st place worth 11, and last place vote = zero), Yale would get 11 first place votes and one last place vote. This would work if all the coaches submitted a poll with only 11 teams (and didn't even rank their own team for example).

Your last statement is essentially correct. Each of the coaches submitted a ballot with only 11 teams not including their own school.

...which means that 1st place is worth 11 points and last place (11th on the ballot) is worth 1.

For what it's worth, there is an error somewhere in the reported numbers for the media poll. There are 30 participants, based on the 30 first place votes cast. If voting is based on a 12 to 1 scale, the total of all points should be
30*(12+11+10+...+1) = 30*(12*13/2) = 2340. Add up the numbers and you get 2349.

David Harding
For what it's worth, there is an error somewhere in the reported numbers for the media poll. There are 30 participants, based on the 30 first place votes cast. If voting is based on a 12 to 1 scale, the total of all points should be
30*(12+11+10+...+1) = 30*(12*13/2) = 2340. Add up the numbers and you get 2349.

Too much free time.

David Harding
... the total of all points should be 30*(12+11+10+...+1) = 30*(12*13/2) = 2340. Add up the numbers and you get 2349.

Chicago just reported in.