Vermont 1 @ Cornell 8 - FINAL

just underway...

CU to the PP at 1:24

Mark McRae on the early goal...CU off to a quick start

Woohoo! Cook! (tip by Palihicky)

we are now up to 2-0 Cornell

McRae scored the first one
Palihicky on the second

Palahicky (Cook, Knoepfli) at 5:04...2-0 to the Red!

Semi-official scoring on the goals (semi because they have yet to add the Vesce assist)

1:37 Cor pp Mark McRae 6 (Bâby 22, Vesce 21)
5:04 Cor Palahicky 6 (Cook 7, Knoepfli 11)

I just got in. Is there a free audio feed anywhere?

Try:

[www.uvm.edu]

or

[sports.yahoo.com]

Matt McRae joins his brother in the goal column. 3-0.

Mark McCrae and Shane Hynes on the assists

Bâby - cross checking

End 1st, Cornell sounds pretty good out there tonight.

Yep, we sound good and UVM sounds awful, same as at the Gut.

4-0 CU

PPG - Bâby, 5x3...and CU continues on 5x4.

Again, another 5x3 for CU for 53 more seconds...

Slashing on UVM...Cornell goes back to a 5-on-3 for :53

3:28 Cor pp Bâby 8 (Paolini 12, Mark McRae 12)

Now 5-0.

5-0 CU

Paolini PPG 5x3, and still over 1:30 on second PP.

And Vermont changes goalies.

6-0 CU

Hynes PPG 5x4.

Holy Crap

And it does them no good - Hynes on the PP for 6-0.

The Ithaca Breast Cancer Alliance is making out quite well tonight...)

5:xx Cor pp Hynes 6 (Knoepfli 12)

That's what happens when you go 2 man shorthanded against Cornell for 4 straight minutes

So, I'm reading the live-stats from Cornell. Vermont has 4 fewer players listed than Cornell. Is this a mistake on their part? What's up with that?

-J

Moulson gets Cornell's fifth PPG of the night...7-0!

18:53 Cor pp Moulson 11 (Knoepfli 13, Hynes 7)

5 ppg in the second period.

There can't be 5 PPG in the second period...only four goals were scored (it was 3-0 after 1)

I meant, "with the game still in the second period."

For the record, it was 1 ppg in the first and 4 ppgs in the 2nd.

I know, Greg.

Kind of like when the UVM announcers say Janet Reno is going to conduct the Cornell fight song, I presume mean the Alma Mater.

Yep, alumna Janet Reno directing the alma mater. I wish we still had HockeyCam.

The Vermont announcer says he has seen Harvard play many times this season, and he has to pick Cornell next weekend. He can't understand how Cornell could have lost to Colgate last week...

He complains about not being able to hear the announcer, blaming the acoustics in The Lynah Rink. "Maybe it's because of the full house tonight."

YEAH, LIKE THERE ISN'T USUALLY A FULL HOUSE!

Scoring summary through 2 periods:

1:37 Cor pp Mark McRae 6 (Bâby 22, Vesce 21)
5:04 Cor Palahicky 6 (Cook 7, Knoepfli 11)
12:49 Cor Matt McRae 3 (Mark McRae 11, Hynes 6)
3:28 Cor pp Bâby 8 (Paolini 12, Mark McRae 12)
4:45 Cor pp Paolini 7 (Murray 16, Mark McRae 13)
5:37 Cor pp Hynes 6 (Knoepfli 12, Moulson 7)
18:53 Cor pp Moulson 11 (Knoepfli 13, Hynes 7)

PP: Cornell 5x6, Vermont 0x4
SOG: 37-10.

Out of town:

all after 2 periods,

Clk 3-3 Yal
SLU 3-2 Prn
Col 1-0 Drt
RPI 3-2 Brn

Oh dagnabit, Greg Hornby in a fight.

"Scouts?"

Hornby just went nuts and started a fight, and appears to have won quite handily. Let's see if he'll play the next game....the UVM guy didn't fight back.

My guess would be major (fight), minor (instigation), misconduct, game DQ = 5 + 2 + 10 + 10 = 27 minutes, just short of Rob LeVasseur's record.

Sifers: 2 (rough) + 10 (misc) + 10 (game misc)
Hornby: 5 (fight) + 10 (game DQ)

Nope, he only got the 5 + 10. It's a game DQ, his second of the season, so my reading of the rule is he'll miss both games next weekend.

Hornby has a game DQ - will not play next Friday. plus a 5 minute major....so UVM has a 3 minute PP. Let's go LeNeveu!!!

Penalty Killed

Palahicky!!!

8-0 CU!

8:32 Cor Palahicky 7 (Pegoraro 7, Knoepfli 14)

I don't like the UVM pressure right now....want this one for LeNeveu.

UVM going on the PP.

4:34 left in the game. Gleed holding.

DAMN it.

Schafer just put in Chabot.

CU goes on the PP for the last minute of the game.

4 pt. weekend. Let's keep the momentum going...especially into next weekend!

Final:

Cornell 8, UVM 1.

Not a bad weekend, outscoring the opposition 14-2. CU Outshot them 41 - 19.

So, we're now 19-4-0...I guess I can handle that.

Damn this team is good.

How strange is it that a goalie who stops almost 19 of every 20 shots seems snakebit?

Greg. you sure about this being Hornby's 2nd? There was some debate about that on the chat tonight. Some thought he had a game misconduct earlier in the season, not a DQ.

Hornby took a misconduct (along with two minors) at the end of the second BU game. He also had a game misconduct early in the first Colgate game. I haven't been able to find a game DQ for him in the box scores.

According to the season statistic (before tonight) Hornby had 24 penalties for 75 minutes which I believe works out to be 20 - 2 min minors, 1 - 5 min major, and 3 - 10 minutes of some sort. Then looking at the box scores: Hornby had misconducts in the second BU game, the Clarkson at Lynah game, and the Colgate Away game. So I don't think that he has had a DQ this season.

The Hornby fight was absolutely incredible; he dropped his gloves, pulled the Vermont player's jersey over his head, and started throwing rights and lefts like a mad man. He went absolutely nuts....it was great.

And Gary Bettman conducted Schafer after the game.

Who could have ever expected the "Good Goalie - Bad Goalie - Janet Reno" cheer?

I sat about 5 rows in front of her. She was there early, and stayed through the salute at the end. She seemed to have a great time.

The Red looked very motivated and kept moving all the time through both games this weekend. The freshmen poured on the points against DC, and the seniors came on VERY strong against UVM. I hope they can keep things rolling this well for the next two months.

Ken '71

Btw, for all you in A & B, was goal #3 an own goal? From section E it looked like a UVM guy moderately shot the puck towards his own net. It may have bounced around before being put it, but it looked like he virtually took a shot... did my eyes deceive me from ~ 200 feet away? or was something amiss?

Yes, certainly looked like an own-goal from where I was (section A)

I hope it was only Greg's 1st DQ -- Adam originally said it was a second DQ although not for fighting, but I think in retrospect he meant a GameMisc and not a DQ.

We could use him for Harvard, anyway.

What the heck started the fight?

[Q]Yes, certainly looked like an own-goal from where I was (section A)[/Q]
Heh, weird... because Age and "the Bear" shot me down at Dunbar's, telling me that they didn't remember anything like that, so I thought I was crazy... any one else?

No suggestion that it was an own goal on the Cornell feed.

IIRC, nothing. There wasn't anything apparent directly before they went at it. There were probably a bunch of little things that led up to Greg beating the living hell out of the poor kid BTW, the UVM player only got a minor b/c the two linesmen were holding him down while Greg went to town with at least ten solid rights!


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Sorry ... I did misspeak ... Hornby's penalty vs. Colgate was indeed a game misconduct, not a DQ.

Normally, I like Hornby's agressive spirit, but getting himself suspended for a game against a not-to-be-ignored Brown team is just dumb, especially considering what happened the last time he missed most of a game. I see no reason to celebrate that.

Agree, it was dumb, unless the UVM player had done something very obnoxious that we don't know about.

Gleed's penalty at the end was also dumb. He had the UVM player completely dismantled and just kept going till he had him down on the ice. No need for that at that stage of the game. Considering it led to their only goal, I don't think it will happen again. A learning experience, but Hornby, I don't know. Maybe he has an explanation.

My opinion is that the UVM players started working on Hornby towards the end of the game. Grabbing his, cheap shots, etc. Although I didn't see the start of the fight, someone with me said they did, and he said that Hornby laid a clean hit on the guy,and the guy returned with a cheap shot, which, after several of those, probably just pissed him off. You'd like to see him keep his cool better than that, but at least it appeared to have been provoked.

So, I don't think this is important enough for a new thread, but since we're talking about the game...

I started my own new 'tradition' this weekend, in what might not be a total vain attempt to counteract the elongated "diiiiiie". The point was brought up that you can't counteract noise with silence, but you can with noise. I was in a roudy mood Friday, after all the yelling at our good friend Nicky, so about half way through elongated travesty, I just yelled "SHUT UP!" About half the people (give or take), stopped right then. Emboldened by my success I did it again last night, and again, about half the people stopped. I even got a 'thank you' from the person in from of me who agreed it was horrid.

So, my questions for the group are, a) is this a good idea to continue, hopefully only for a few games until people get the picture, and b) anyone wanna do it in a, b, d, f, and g?

I hate for this 'diiiie' to be the legacy of my year. I also think I've helped bring back the 'sweep', 'chug', and 'tap' to the remote-control cheer. Though I dunno if it's a majority of people, there's definitely a number of people actually doing that now. I knew Walsh would be very helpful in bringing it back .

great game.
i thought that the third goal was not an own goal. just a shot and rebound --> goal. but i may be confusing it with another goal

as for hornby, the uvm skater cross checked him high after hornby hit him cleanly and then said something (i was right on the other side of the glass), they started chatting then wrestling then hornby took off the gloves after the uvm guy hit him with the gloves on...it was a brawl after that.

i cant believe that i left my nasty CU hockey hat in the car friday night and didnt get to throw it...then palahicky had some good chances for a hatty late in the game saturday. i need to get rid of this nasty hat

I think it's time for Schafer to consider sitting Hornby for a while -- he HAS to learn to control his temper. I know he's a real fireplug on the boards and plays with alot of energy, but if he does what he did at Colgate or last night in the playoffs it could very easily cost us the game.

Richard & JTW,

I disagree 100%. . .coach has made it clear (as have others on the team ) that is his role on the team and I do not see coach not playing him whenever he's able to dress. Does he take some stupid penalties, oh yeah. Does his intense play help the team, of course. Does he get some extra attention from the referees and therefore a few undeserved penalties, Yup. The bottom line here is that he's doing what he is told or else why would he keep putting on his skates night after night. If coach and the team thought he was more a problem than a plus, I have a feeling we wouldn't even know the kids name. I have been told by more than a few guys on the team that they (the men's hockey team) see Greg as the most valuable player that will not show up on the score sheet (actually scoring goals, that is )

If jy3 is correct then the fight may well have been justified. If you've ever been cross-checked in the chest (or higher) you'll understand just how much it hurts. IIRC, the incident v. Brown earlier in the year when Matt McRae took a cheap shot cross-check up high, most, if not all people saw his reaction as justified. . .so why are people treating this any differently? If you're gonna judge the actions of the team, use a single standard, don't treat one any different than the others.

BTW, the fighting penalties would have been off-setting if not for the two linesmen holding Sifers on the ice. It's probably a safe bet he would've liked nothing more than to throw a few in Hornby's direction.

just my $.02

FWIW, I thought a Cornellian put the puck in the net on the 3rd goal. Of course, I also thought there was a Cornellian on top of the goalie for that one (but he might have been held there by a gentleman in green and yellow).

I meant to post this story a while ago, but I wonder if anyone else caught the scene at the end of warmups on Saturday?

So, as you may have noticed, Pegararo seems to be "the guy" who is last off the ice at the end of warmups. He'll wait until the whole Cornell team and the opposing team is off the ice before stepping off. Well on Saturday, he cordially gestured to the Vermont player who was last off that he should get off first. The UVM player insisted Dan get off first. (I believe this ritual created matching minors for delay last season)
Neither played would leave. I remember once in the past when Krys Wieckowski onece psyched someone out by leaving the ice and then jumping back on quicly when no one was looking... but I digress.
So Pegararo took off one of his gloves and challenged the UVM player to rock paper scissor. I think it was best two of three. Dan went rock twice and lost. He shrugged his shoulders and went into the locker room leaving the UVM player to leave the ice last.

Am I the only one who thinks this is really funny?

Meanwhile, Hornby went rock twice later that night and won, but still had to leave the ice...

If that's true, it is hilarious.

I noticed Pegoraro was the last to leave the ice after every period at RIP... ahh, superstitions. What would sports be without them? Of course, if I believed mine I would never get to go to another game again.

It's absolutely true. I was standing down in the corner shooting, and noticed the tail end of it. Just missed getting a shot, but it definitely happened. I wasn't sure if it was rock, paper, scissors or odds/evens. Thanks for clarifying Chris

I too saw the Rock-Paper-Scissors battle and cracked up! I believe it was actually two rocks and a scissor thrown by Pegoraro (not that it matters). Very neat/entertaining to see nonetheless

So, given the thumping Cornell put on Vermont Saturday night, and given the way these "routines" usually work, I wonder if Dan will try very hard to be the second-to-last player to leave the ice from now on...

Speaking of routines, has anyone noticed the Abbott brothers. During both the Canadian and US anthems, they stand dead still. I'm talking millitary-style, not moving, nothing. It kinda's freaks me out.

Also, have you ever wondered what's going through lenny's head when he's crouched over before the starting line-ups are announced. What I'd pay to hear an inner monologue.

I enjoy looking for these quirks.

And here I thought this was going to be a question about PairWise Comparisons to which the answer is "rank the three teams by RPI".

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I could only imagine what Underhill's inner monologue must've been like.

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Greg gives us [www.worldrps.com] and John gives us [www.samkass.com]... . And I thought I was spending too much time here.

I'm not sure that I understand what the finger position is on "lizard". Looks a lot like paper.

big red apple wrote:

I'm not sure that I understand what the finger position is on "lizard". Looks a lot like paper.

I think it might be thumb in versus flush, or the hand might be curled for lizard. I've never played, only seen it on the web.

I think you put your hand like you have a sock puppet on.

Newsflash

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