Sucks

I still can't believe how much Sucks Univ is living up to their name. Did they seriously lose to Brown at home? And only one win with all those great recruits?
This is my favorite Sucks U season of all time.

This could have been added to one of several other threads.

Who polices the thread police?

Sorry, I was away for a bit.

If this were USCHO people would start five different "Harvard Sucks" threads.

jtwcornell91
If this were USCHO people would start five different "Harvard Sucks" threads.

Only if Harvard joined Hockey East.

Here's hoping Donato keeps landing those recruits from prep schools. Great academic schools and littered with talented players.

The thing I love about hockey, and in particular college hockey, is that it exposes what talent really is: just talent.

jas27
The thing I love about hockey, and in particular college hockey, is that it exposes what talent really is: just talent.

Reminds me of that line from Miracle. Something like: "The reason all-star teams fail is that they rely entirely on an individual's talent. What the Soviets do is take that talent and use it in a system for the betterment of the team."

Kyle Rose

jas27
The thing I love about hockey, and in particular college hockey, is that it exposes what talent really is: just talent.

Reminds me of that line from Miracle. Something like: "The reason all-star teams fail is that they rely entirely on an individual's talent. What the Soviets do is take that talent and use it in a system for the betterment of the team."

Sounds like a bunch of commies.

Kyle Rose

jas27
The thing I love about hockey, and in particular college hockey, is that it exposes what talent really is: just talent.

Reminds me of that line from Miracle. Something like: "The reason all-star teams fail is that they rely entirely on an individual's talent. What the Soviets do is take that talent and use it in a system for the betterment of the team."

And then make them wear uniforms that give the color red a bad name.

jtwcornell91
If this were USCHO people would start five different "Harvard Sucks" threads.

If Harvard had fans there would be five different "Fire Donato!" threads on USCHO.

Actually that is an interesting point of discussion. What do you guys think of Donato's future? This is his 6th season and he is essentially .500 for his career. Including this year, three of the last 4 will be losing campaigns. The two best years were the first, with Mazzoleni's players. How long will Sucks keep him?
From our prespective, the longer the better if they perform so poorly.

billhoward

Kyle Rose

jas27
The thing I love about hockey, and in particular college hockey, is that it exposes what talent really is: just talent.

Reminds me of that line from Miracle. Something like: "The reason all-star teams fail is that they rely entirely on an individual's talent. What the Soviets do is take that talent and use it in a system for the betterment of the team."

And then make them wear uniforms that give the color red a bad name.

The Soviets gave "red" a bad name because communism is inarguably evil. OTOH, that the Soviets were the greatest hockey team in the world for two decades is a point of pride for the players and coaches involved, regardless of the political system under which they lived.

Communism is inherently useful if you're a party leader and get to drive on leaders-only center lanes through Moscow. That saves you time going to your next five-year-plan meeting. Plus that Joe Stalin did more for ZPG than Planned Parenthood ever did.

I never thought much about Communism in school because it was so bad as to be off the charts. Going way bacK: Too bad there was no right side to pick in the Vietnam war.

gored
Actually that is an interesting point of discussion. What do you guys think of Donato's future? This is his 6th season and he is essentially .500 for his career. Including this year, three of the last 4 will be losing campaigns. The two best years were the first, with Mazzoleni's players. How long will Sucks keep him?
From our prespective, the longer the better if they perform so poorly.

I disagree; from our perspective, we should want Sucks to do as well as possible, especially out-of-conference and in the NCAAs, but lose to us. I'm a fan of Hahvahd-bashing and ridiculing their one-and-done recent history in the NCAAs, but I also believe a rising tide lifts all ECAC boats, and we shouldn't be the only team in the conference that manages more than sixty minutes of tourney time when we make it there.

Beeeej

gored
Actually that is an interesting point of discussion. What do you guys think of Roll's future? This is his 7th season and he is essentially .500 for his career. Including this year, two of the last 4 will be losing campaigns. The two best years were his first two with his own players, but they've declined since. How long will Clarkson keep him?
From our prespective, the longer the better if they perform so poorly.

I disagree; from our perspective, we should want Clarkson to do as well as possible, especially out-of-conference and in the NCAAs, but lose to us. I'm a fan of Knight-bashing and ridiculing their reasonably futile recent history in the NCAAs, but I also believe a rising tide lifts all ECAC boats.

FBYP.

Scersk '97

Beeeej

gored
Actually that is an interesting point of discussion. What do you guys think of Roll's future? This is his 7th season and he is essentially .500 for his career. Including this year, two of the last 4 will be losing campaigns. The two best years were his first two with his own players, but they've declined since. How long will Clarkson keep him?
From our prespective, the longer the better if they perform so poorly.

I disagree; from our perspective, we should want Clarkson to do as well as possible, especially out-of-conference and in the NCAAs, but lose to us. I'm a fan of Knight-bashing and ridiculing their reasonably futile recent history in the NCAAs, but I also believe a rising tide lifts all ECAC boats.

FBYP.

FYP, to emphasize the changes.

Jim Hyla
FYP, to emphasize the changes.

S'cool. Seriously, both Harvard and Clarkson have been woefully inconsistent over the last few years, and it's not good for anyone.

Just imagine what this year would be like if both were their normally competitive selves? I think the ECAC would be back to national relevance. Only Q, Union, and us? Not so much.

In my opinion, I would love for everyone in the ECAC to be competitive (with us being the best), EXCEPT Sucks. Truthfully, if we are going to be behind someone in the league, I would much rather it be Q or Yale than Sucks. Maybe I will hate Yale more in a few years, but for now there is no comparison to Sucks.

Scersk '97

Jim Hyla
FYP, to emphasize the changes.

S'cool. Seriously, both Harvard and Clarkson have been woefully inconsistent over the last few years, and it's not good for anyone.

Just imagine what this year would be like if both were their normally competitive selves? I think the ECAC would be back to national relevance. Only Q, Union, and us? Not so much.

I think Yale will certainly be in the mix as well.

gored
In my opinion, I would love for everyone in the ECAC to be competitive (with us being the best), EXCEPT Sucks. Truthfully, if we are going to be behind someone in the league, I would much rather it be Q or Yale than Sucks. Maybe I will hate Yale more in a few years, but for now there is no comparison to Sucks.

Beating which team in the ECAC finals would give us the most satisfaction?

billhoward

Beating any team in the ECAC finals would give us the most satisfaction.

That's how I see it.

A bit off-off topic, but Sucks and Yale were then only two Ivy men's soccer team that did not post a 3.00 gpa (or better) for the 08-09 academic year. [www.cornellbigred.com]

David Harding
A bit off-off topic, but Sucks and Yale were then only two Ivy men's soccer team that did not post a 3.00 gpa (or better) for the 08-09 academic year. [www.cornellbigred.com]

Maybe the tests were culturally biased.

David Harding
A bit off-off topic, but Sucks and Yale were then only two Ivy men's soccer team that did not post a 3.00 gpa (or better) for the 08-09 academic year. [www.cornellbigred.com]

How dumb do you have to be to not get at least a B average at Ha+rva+rd?

KeithK
How dumb do you have to be to not get at least a B average at Ha+rva+rd?

At least dumb enough to have attended Hahvahd in the first place...

Give My Regards
At least rich enough to have attended Hahvahd in the first place...

FYP.

Seriously, though. No effort, no pressure, and all the prestige in the world for the rest of your days. Many things, most of them unattractive, but none of them "dumb."

Trotsky

Give My Regards
At least rich enough to have attended Hahvahd in the first place...

FYP.

Seriously, though. No effort, no pressure, and all the prestige in the world for the rest of your days. Many things, most of them unattractive, but none of them "dumb."

Hardly a "fix" as it is now easier for most people to attend Harvard than it is for them to attend Cornell, as Harvard picks up the tab for most applicants of modest means.

ugarte

Trotsky

Give My Regards
At least rich enough to have attended Hahvahd in the first place...

FYP.

Seriously, though. No effort, no pressure, and all the prestige in the world for the rest of your days. Many things, most of them unattractive, but none of them "dumb."

Hardly a "fix" as it is now easier for most people to attend Harvard than it is for them to attend Cornell, as Harvard picks up the tab for most applicants of modest means.

[www.campusgrotto.com]

Looks like Harvard is cheaper even without that. I don't know how reliable campusgrotto.com is as a source, but this is the data it compiled for October...

Total Cost: [www.campusgrotto.com]
Cornell #32, Harvard #112

Tuition Only: [www.campusgrotto.com]
Cornell #63, Harvard #139

Lauren '06

ugarte

Trotsky

Give My Regards
At least rich enough to have attended Hahvahd in the first place...

FYP.

Seriously, though. No effort, no pressure, and all the prestige in the world for the rest of your days. Many things, most of them unattractive, but none of them "dumb."

Hardly a "fix" as it is now easier for most people to attend Harvard than it is for them to attend Cornell, as Harvard picks up the tab for most applicants of modest means.

[www.campusgrotto.com]

Looks like Harvard is cheaper even without that. I don't know how reliable campusgrotto.com is as a source, but this is the data it compiled for October...

Total Cost: [www.campusgrotto.com]
Cornell #32, Harvard #112

Tuition Only: [www.campusgrotto.com]
Cornell #63, Harvard #139

In the recent edition of Spirit, Andy Noel wrote that "Financial aid disparity in our league must be eliminated or the Ivy League as we know it will disappear."

ithacat

Lauren '06

ugarte

Trotsky

Give My Regards
At least rich enough to have attended Hahvahd in the first place...

FYP.

Seriously, though. No effort, no pressure, and all the prestige in the world for the rest of your days. Many things, most of them unattractive, but none of them "dumb."

Hardly a "fix" as it is now easier for most people to attend Harvard than it is for them to attend Cornell, as Harvard picks up the tab for most applicants of modest means.

[www.campusgrotto.com]

Looks like Harvard is cheaper even without that. I don't know how reliable campusgrotto.com is as a source, but this is the data it compiled for October...

Total Cost: [www.campusgrotto.com]
Cornell #32, Harvard #112

Tuition Only: [www.campusgrotto.com]
Cornell #63, Harvard #139

In the recent edition of Spirit, Andy Noel wrote that "Financial aid disparity in our league must be eliminated or the Ivy League as we know it will disappear."

I've long said the same thing. So far, the results don't really bear it out if you limit the view to ivy championships. Only Cornell has been particularly anomalous in the 4-5 yrs since these aid programs took off at HYP. (http://ivyleaguesports.com/documents/alltimechamps.asp). Of course, we're only just now getting to the point where full rosters are made up of athletes recruited under the backdrop of aid imbalance. I still think P and Y's sudden ascent in hockey is more than coincidence.

jtwcornell91
If this were USCHO people would start five different "Harvard Sucks" threads.

Sorry.