Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by imafrshmn
Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 06:38PM
Cornell's conference and Ivy League opener against Dartmouth should up the intensity another notch.
The Ithaca Journal has a live blog again for the game tonight.
In a lineup change, Braden Birch will be in tonight for Keir Ross. Forwards lines stay the same from last game.
CU Lines, from Live Stats:
Greening - Gallagher - J. Devin
Miller - R. Nash - Kennedy
Esposito - Roeszler - Jillson
Scali - Collins - Axell
B. Nash - Whitney
D'Agostino - Krueger
Birch - M. Devin
Scrivens
ECAC stalwarts Tim Kotyra and Dan Murphy are our referees tonight.
Shots on goal
_____1__2__3__T
Cor_12_14__8_34
Dar__7__5_10_22
Scoring
1 02:13 Cor PP Gallagher (Greening, B. Nash)
2 08:25 Cor PP Greening (R. Nash, Birch)
3 03:36 Cor PP Gallagher (B. Nash, Whitney)
3 04:16 Cor Esposito (Roeszler, D'Agostino)
3 05:21 Dar PP Boldt (Owsiak, Estoclet)
3 14:53 Cor PP B. Nash (R. Nash, Greening)
The Ithaca Journal has a live blog again for the game tonight.
In a lineup change, Braden Birch will be in tonight for Keir Ross. Forwards lines stay the same from last game.
CU Lines, from Live Stats:
Greening - Gallagher - J. Devin
Miller - R. Nash - Kennedy
Esposito - Roeszler - Jillson
Scali - Collins - Axell
B. Nash - Whitney
D'Agostino - Krueger
Birch - M. Devin
Scrivens
ECAC stalwarts Tim Kotyra and Dan Murphy are our referees tonight.
Shots on goal
_____1__2__3__T
Cor_12_14__8_34
Dar__7__5_10_22
Scoring
1 02:13 Cor PP Gallagher (Greening, B. Nash)
2 08:25 Cor PP Greening (R. Nash, Birch)
3 03:36 Cor PP Gallagher (B. Nash, Whitney)
3 04:16 Cor Esposito (Roeszler, D'Agostino)
3 05:21 Dar PP Boldt (Owsiak, Estoclet)
3 14:53 Cor PP B. Nash (R. Nash, Greening)
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Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:07PM
Gallagher PPG! Nice-looking powerplay.
Re: Cornell 0-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: tretiak (---.chem.ucsb.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:07PM
Gallagher on the PP! From Greening and B. Nash.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:07PM
Was about to wonder how long till we got a PPG. Gallagher answers the Q. That makes us what 3 x 9 for the year. Is that more pPGs than all last yet yet?
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:15PM
Redcast freezes
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:17PM
It's not just you.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:19PM
Reload worked immediately for me.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: Lauren '06 (128.189.83.---)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:19PM
No freeze for me.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:22PM
2nd pp unit not as sharp.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.unknown.charter.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:32PM
Pretty good try by Nash as he was being hauled down...
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:33PM
Finally came back in time to see Nash's SOG from his knees.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; End of 1st
Posted by: Oat (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:33PM
Dartmouth freshmen are terrible. We are going to enjoy kicking their asses in the next few years.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: Tom14850 (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:35PM
I can't believe that wasn't a penalty.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 07:35PM by Tom14850.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; End of 1st
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:39PM
Oat
Dartmouth freshmen are terrible. We are going to enjoy kicking their asses in the next few years.
Beg forgiveness from the woofing gods before it is too late!
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st intermission
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.unknown.charter.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:54PM
Dangerous hit. later, jackass.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:55PM
Stephens for Dartmouth is sent off for a game misconduct to the Lynah goon serenade. 5 min major.
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Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:55PM
5 min major and a game misconduct on Stephens for HFB.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:57PM
Even with tinny audio, you could hear quite clearly, "See you, goon," as Even Stephens is escorted to the locker room. Two PPGs would put the game away. Will we get one? [edit add:] OK, 1 goal is workable.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 08:01PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Posted by: tretiak (---.chem.ucsb.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 07:58PM
awful play by m. devin to allow that break-away
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st intermission
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:00PM
Greening!!!!
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Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:00PM
billhoward
Even with tinny audio, you could hear quite clearly, "See you, goon," as Even Stephens is escorted to the locker room. Two PPGs would put the game away. Will we get one?
Yes
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.unknown.charter.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:00PM
Greening! PPG!
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:00PM
Just as I was about to ask when the last time was that we scored on a 5-min PP, Greening cashes in!
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Oat (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:00PM
Greening!
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:04PM
Game not half over and the Big Green have a game misconduct and a 10 minute misconduct. They must be getting ready for winter carnival.
And now Jillson goes down from a hard hit and a stretcher comes out.
And now Jillson goes down from a hard hit and a stretcher comes out.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 08:07PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: tretiak (---.chem.ucsb.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:07PM
jillson got killed on that play
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:07PM
Jillson down on the ice after a bad hit. Looked like he was unconscious at first, but it's reassuring to see him moving now.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Oat (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:08PM
was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:08PM
Bob Gaudet's team in mid-season form.
Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:08PM
billhoward
Game not half over and the Big Green have a game misconduct and a 10 minute misconduct. They must be getting ready for winter carnival.
Nice.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:09PM
Oat
was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?
Looks fairly clean on the replay. Maybe a little high.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:10PM
The replay seems to show that the hit was intentional. An elbow to the head is how it appears.
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Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: tretiak (---.chem.ucsb.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:10PM
was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?
based on the replay: it was open ice, and the dartmouth player is a lot bigger than jillson. the radio guy called it an elbow, but i disagree. clean, hard hit. you have to keep your head up
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Lauren '06 (128.189.83.---)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:10PM
Clean but still horrifying to see how he went down. He practically pinwheeled.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:10PM
Matching 10-minute misconducts on Goggin and Scali
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.unknown.charter.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:11PM
Was a high hit, but looked to me like he got him with the shoulder. The elbow came up, but it looked like it came up after the hit.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:12PM
After a "throw your clipboard" chant for Gaudet, Jason: "I guess his reputation precedes him a bit."
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:13PM
This game is getting chippy in classic Cornell vs. Dartmouth fashion.
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Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:13PM
Referees calling a zero tolerance game now. Makes sense.
edit add: patrick Kennedy going off without a matching Darmouth call. Holding. Maybe they're calling too many. And one for Riley Nash. Slash.
edit add: patrick Kennedy going off without a matching Darmouth call. Holding. Maybe they're calling too many. And one for Riley Nash. Slash.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 08:15PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:14PM
P. Kennedy and R. Nash sent to the box at the same time for minors.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 08:15PM by sah67.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:15PM
Ok, this is getting ridiculous. Would be a sweet time for a shorty
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 08:16PM by Jordan 04.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: tretiak (---.chem.ucsb.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:16PM
5x3 against for two whole minutes. huge kill coming up, need to get back under control and escape with the lead here
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:18PM
Krueger hurt on that blocked shot.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:20PM
"His dad and coach, Bob Gaudet, is very upset" -- if only someone had a copy of Will's famous Gaudet photo.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:20PM
Gaudette junior also hurt on that series (hand?) and dad calls timeout.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:22PM
All PP killed off!
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:22PM
Is our PK really good, or is Dartmouth just bad? Tomorrow may be a better game to tell.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.115.197.118.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:25PM
Another Dartmouth power play!
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.115.197.118.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:27PM
Scrivens with a mask save!
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.115.197.118.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:29PM
End of 2.
And nobody left in the box
And nobody left in the box
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission stats
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:31PM
Live Stats say Cornell outshootng D 26-12. Kind of wish it was 4-0 with one more PPG and a SHG. How many shorthanded goals did we have last year?
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission
Posted by: Tom14850 (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:33PM
The dominance of this team really reminds me of 02-03. If they can get that last finishing touch this will be a fun season to watch.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission stats
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:44PM
billhoward
How many shorthanded goals did we have last year?
I only remember two: M. Kennedy at NoDak, and Riley against SCSU in Florida.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: cbuckser (---.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:44PM
In NCAA hockey, like the OHL, a check to the head is a contact-to-the-head roughing penalty. It looked to me like Estoclet hit Jillson's head as well as his upper chest or shoulder. It would have been a clean hit in the NHL, but a penalty should have been called tonight.tretiak
was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?
based on the replay: it was open ice, and the dartmouth player is a lot bigger than jillson. the radio guy called it an elbow, but i disagree. clean, hard hit. you have to keep your head up
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:45PM
Dominance today, so far. Last week against Niagara not so much where it mattered.Tom14850
The dominance of this team really reminds me of 02-03. If they can get that last finishing touch this will be a fun season to watch.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:46PM
And back into the box we go.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:47PM
Even a blind squirrel finds some nuts. Got to be careful how many PPs we allow.sah67
And back into the box we go.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:50PM
Gallagher again on the PP! 3 PPGs!
Re: Cornell 3-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:50PM
Hot damn! 2, er 3, PPGs in one game. Gallagher!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2009 08:50PM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell 4-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:51PM
And now Esposito's first at Cornell! Pour it on!
Re: Cornell 4-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:52PM
With a name like Esposito, how can you not be a scorer?
Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:54PM
Dartmouth finally solves Scrivens, albeit on a funky deflection.
4-1.
4-1.
Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:57PM
Great 1x1 save there by Scrivens
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Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 08:59PM
Riley just misses the net on a 3-on-1 shorthanded rush.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission
Posted by: Tom14850 (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:05PM
Very true
Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:08PM
B. Nash! 4/7 on the powerplay tonight!
Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:08PM
Great backdoor play on the PP Riley to Brendon!
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Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:09PM
When was the last time we scored three goals in the third period?
Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:09PM
Denying Gallagher his hat trick. Boy did he try hard form the slot 30 seconds earlier.imafrshmn
Great backdoor play on the PP Riley to Brendon!
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:11PM
What a pretty feed: the kind of goal that always frustrates me when another team scores one like it against us!
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: tretiak (---.chem.ucsb.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:12PM
Per the rulebook:
Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).
The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?
Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).
The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:13PM
Please, no game DQs or injuries in last 2 minutes
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:16PM
Anybody lose the chat?
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:17PM
Yale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.
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Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: judy (12.187.81.---)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:28PM
imafrshmn
Yale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.
so we're the only Ivy that won
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.115.197.118.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:30PM
judy
imafrshmn
Yale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.
so we're the only Ivy that won
Brown was leading Union...
Re: Cornell 4-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 09:42PM
billhoward
With a name like Esposito, how can you not be a scorer?
So do we borrow from the 70's Boston slogan "Jesus Saves, Esposito scores on the Rebound"?
And I'm ok with replacing Jesus with our goalie of the night.
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: judy (12.187.81.---)
Date: November 06, 2009 10:07PM
Jeff Hopkins '82
judy
imafrshmn
Yale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.
so we're the only Ivy that won
Brown was leading Union...
I totally forgot about them.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: ithacat (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 06, 2009 10:35PM
tretiak
Per the rulebook:
Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).
The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?
C'mon...contact to the head is contact to the head. Good grief.
Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Posted by: cbuckser (---.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 06, 2009 11:16PM
ithacat
tretiak
Per the rulebook:
Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).
The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?
C'mon...contact to the head is contact to the head. Good grief.
The rule is straightforward: "A player shall not make contact with an opposing player's head or neck area in any manner."
The referee has discretion regarding the severity of the penalty. Because Estoclet did not appear to be head-hunting, I don't think he should have received a DQ. But, contact to the head plus shoulder or chest is still contact to the head.
Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 12:26AM
Well, I find it just shocking that a game against a Bob Gaudet team had a ton of penalties.
Penalties question
Posted by: lhayes (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 08:00AM
Can anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period? At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side. At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively. Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard. I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung. But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy. What was up? Thanks.
Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: November 07, 2009 08:25AM
judy
Jeff Hopkins '82
judy
imafrshmn
Yale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.
so we're the only Ivy that won
Brown was leading Union...
I totally forgot about them.
They tied anyway. We're the only Ivy that won.
Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: November 07, 2009 08:27AM
sah67
When was the last time we scored three goals in the third period?
1/24/2009 Brown, 19 games ago.
Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: redice (---.sub-75-236-20.myvzw.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 09:05AM
Should we start a caption discussion for that picture.
I vote for "Bob needs a hug!!"
Not original.... But, it is fitting
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Re: Penalties question
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 09:13AM
lhayes
Can anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period? At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side. At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively. Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard. I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung. But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy. What was up? Thanks.
There was ~35 seconds of 5 x 3 after the matching minors expired and before the Nash penalty expired. Nash's penalty went on the scoreboard as soon as the penalties were called and Kennedy's penalty appeared on the board (and started) as soon as Gallagher's ended.
Really, cornell got lucky in that case that the NCAA likes to play 4 x 4 hockey instead of 5 x 5 with matching minors. the 4 x 4 prevented Cornell from having to play down 2 men for 2 minutes instead of 35 seconds.
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Re: Penalties question
Posted by: jkahn (---.73.146.216.biz.sta.networkgci.net)
Date: November 07, 2009 09:19AM
I was watching on Redcast, but here's what I think I saw which is also what should've happened:lhayes
Can anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period? At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side. At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively. Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard. I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung. But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy. What was up? Thanks.
First, of the two, they ran Riley's penalty before Kennedy. So from 12:32 to 14:06 it's 4 vs. 3. Bourgea comes out but since Kennedy's penalty starts as Gallagher's ends, Gallagher can't come out as it's 5 vs. 3. That lasts only 26 seconds and when Riley's penalty ends we get a man back and it's 5 vs. 4 for another 1:34.
It seemed to me it was 5 vs. 3 for a short time, but if that didn't happen,then someone blew it and let a Cornell player out early.
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Re: Penalties question
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 11:39AM
And it seemed to me that we got to pick which man was first out. After the guys were in the box, Greening was talking to the officials and it looked like he asked if he could go to the penalty box. He did and I'm assuming he told them Riley would be first out . I'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy. I was assuming that since Kennedy was called first he would serve first. I guess we'll have to wait and hear what happened from the team.jkahn
I was watching on Redcast, but here's what I think I saw which is also what should've happened:lhayes
Can anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period? At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side. At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively. Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard. I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung. But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy. What was up? Thanks.
First, of the two, they ran Riley's penalty before Kennedy. So from 12:32 to 14:06 it's 4 vs. 3. Bourgea comes out but since Kennedy's penalty starts as Gallagher's ends, Gallagher can't come out as it's 5 vs. 3. That lasts only 26 seconds and when Riley's penalty ends we get a man back and it's 5 vs. 4 for another 1:34.
It seemed to me it was 5 vs. 3 for a short time, but if that didn't happen,then someone blew it and let a Cornell player out early.
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Re: Penalties question
Posted by: redice (---.sub-75-237-162.myvzw.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 03:44PM
Jim Hyla
I'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy.
At one point, the scoreboard showed two #14's in the penalty box for Cornell......
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-Ned Harkness
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Re: Penalties question
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 07, 2009 04:09PM
Two minutes on Hyla?redice
Jim Hyla
I'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy.
At one point, the scoreboard showed two #14's in the penalty box for Cornell......
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Re: Penalties question
Posted by: redice (---.sub-75-237-162.myvzw.com)
Date: November 07, 2009 04:28PM
Al DeFlorio
Two minutes on Hyla?redice
Jim Hyla
I'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy.
At one point, the scoreboard showed two #14's in the penalty box for Cornell......
Or Lodboa..........
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-Ned Harkness
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Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Posted by: Robb (---.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch)
Date: November 12, 2009 02:49AM
Just got my "weekly recap" email from Mike Schafer:
Just think how dangerous we'd be if Coach actually knew the players' names!!
Or maybe that's our secret weapon - we actually have a third "stealth Nash" out on the ice to help out in key situations...
(I'm guessing Schafer doesn't necessarily write, or even read, these email recaps. Just thought it was funny.)
Schafer
On Friday night, it didn't take us long to get on the scoreboard, as we capitalized on the first power play of the game. Junior center Ryan Nash won a faceoff to senior left wing Colin Greening who tipped the puck to the weak side to a wide open senior forward Blake Gallagher who burried it in the net.
Just think how dangerous we'd be if Coach actually knew the players' names!!
Or maybe that's our secret weapon - we actually have a third "stealth Nash" out on the ice to help out in key situations...
(I'm guessing Schafer doesn't necessarily write, or even read, these email recaps. Just thought it was funny.)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/12/2009 02:54AM by Robb.
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