3rd period stats

I am doing a research project for one of my classes and we are looking at how the Gary Glitter cheer affects the players at home games. If someone could help me out that would be great. I need to find the stats for goals in the 3rd, 3rd faceoff wins, possession, opponents scoring, and penalties. Thanks so much!

I hope you're planning to correct for Coach Schafer's locker room speeches, the health of the players, the quality of the officiating, and the phase of the moon. Among other things.

kirbs2587
I am doing a research project for one of my classes and we are looking at how the Gary Glitter cheer affects the players at home games. If someone could help me out that would be great. I need to find the stats for goals in the 3rd, 3rd faceoff wins, possession, opponents scoring, and penalties. Thanks so much!

Box scores are available at the Cornell Athletics web site (click on the score for each game). That will get you some of what you want, but not faceoffs by period (only total for game) or possession (which isn't tracked, and I'm not sure it's even defined--this isn't football).

Good luck proving a correlation between any statistical tendencies and the Gary Glitter cheer.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Kyle on this. There are so many factors to correct for, most of which are probably much more significant than Gary Glitter.

It'd be like trying to calculate the affect of a fart on an office building's HVAC system.

ftyuv
It'd be like trying to calculate the affect of a fart on an office building's HVAC system.

You haven't been in my office after I've had a Qdoba burrito.

ftyuv
I'm afraid I have to agree with Kyle on this. There are so many factors to correct for, most of which are probably much more significant than Gary Glitter.

It'd be like trying to calculate the affect of a fart on an office building's HVAC system.

It's "effect" not "affect," idiot. An affect is a feeling or its physical manifestation. Learn English!

I also wrote "roll" the other day when I meant "role." What's happening to me? I used to be such a good grammar Nazi.

If you knew when Rocky/Gary Glitter was introduced to the mix it would help. When was that? But then there is also the fact that the popcorn at Lynah isn't popped during the game the way it was in the 70's. I would think the popcorn correlation would be more interesting.

You need a different kiddie porn-related song as a control.

It sounds wacky but you might be on to something. Odd things sometimes affect outcomes. Eg teams wearing red win a slight majority of their games (50.3? 53? percent). Recent story (last Sat / Sunday in NYT or two Sundays back) says team behind near the end of the game (behind by a little) may win more often than stats would suggest. In basketball. Being down by 15 to Mizzou apparently doesn't count. But see Villanova over Pitt Saturday after Villanova trailed most of the second half.

I still dont believe a 2-goal lead is more dangerous than 1-goal lead in hockey. (I think the NYT column mentioned leads in hockey.) If we were down by 2 goals late in the third to NU, we might not be playing Bemidji.

Could it be effect and cause, not cause and effect? Eg the band senses the tide is turning, or a rising surge of emotion, and then plays Gary Glitter?

[more rambling] What about the outcome when the band shows up at all for a road game? Our previous lax game at Princeton, won by 1 goal, whatever pep or alumni pep band showed up, was about 5X the size of Princeton's band that just had to stumble out of bed. That's an intangible. Or maybe a strong fan turnout in an away location neutralizes some of the home team advantage?

Trotsky
You need a different kiddie porn-related song as a control.

FTW

billhoward
Could it be effect and cause, not cause and effect? Eg the band senses the tide is turning, or a rising surge of emotion, and then plays Gary Glitter?

The band strikes up Gary Glitter right as the 2nd intermission is ending, so that the end of the song/cheer overlaps with the faceoff to start the period. They always do it, so it has nothing to do with the tide or emotion in the rink.

OK, I'll bite. What are you going to compare the third period and cheer to, the second period or third period road games? Huh?

marty
If you knew when Rocky/Gary Glitter was introduced to the mix it would help. When was that? But then there is also the fact that the popcorn at Lynah isn't popped during the game the way it was in the 70's. I would think the popcorn correlation would be more interesting.

Was introduced for fall 86 or spring 87 IIRC

I recall from pep band at the time that the team had heard it out in Denver for the Spring 86 NCAA playoff games out there and requested it.

abmarks

marty
If you knew when Rocky/Gary Glitter was introduced to the mix it would help. When was that? But then there is also the fact that the popcorn at Lynah isn't popped during the game the way it was in the 70's. I would think the popcorn correlation would be more interesting.

Was introduced for fall 86 or spring 87 IIRC

I recall from pep band at the time that the team had heard it out in Denver for the Spring 86 NCAA playoff games out there and requested it.

But when did they do away with live popcorn?

marty

abmarks

marty
If you knew when Rocky/Gary Glitter was introduced to the mix it would help. When was that? But then there is also the fact that the popcorn at Lynah isn't popped during the game the way it was in the 70's. I would think the popcorn correlation would be more interesting.

Was introduced for fall 86 or spring 87 IIRC

I recall from pep band at the time that the team had heard it out in Denver for the Spring 86 NCAA playoff games out there and requested it.

But when did they do away with live popcorn?

As opposed to dead popcorn?

abmarks

marty
If you knew when Rocky/Gary Glitter was introduced to the mix it would help. When was that? But then there is also the fact that the popcorn at Lynah isn't popped during the game the way it was in the 70's. I would think the popcorn correlation would be more interesting.

Was introduced for fall 86 or spring 87 IIRC

I recall from pep band at the time that the team had heard it out in Denver for the Spring 86 NCAA playoff games out there and requested it.

No, at least not in the current manifestation. At least from 1992 to 1994, the band only played "Gonna Fly Now" for the 3rd period. "Rock and Roll, Part II" was arranged for a marching band show I believe in the fall of '94 and it soon made obvious sense to move it to the pep band repertoire, given the fan reactions to it. Logically, it fit perfectly after "Gonna Fly Now." The chant that accompanies it now didn't really pick up steam until '96-'97.

Personally, I didn't become aware of the song-as-sports-anthem until about 1990 when the Penguins played it a lot. This article gives good detail to the history of it in arena-rock. Pretty much a Denver thing in the '80s, which correlates abmarks's Denver comment. If the band did have it back then, it was dropped/lost shortly thereafter.