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ECAC Awards

Posted by pfibiger 
ECAC Awards
Posted by: pfibiger (---.198.175.24.cfl.res.rr.com)
Date: March 17, 2009 10:39AM

Tyler Mugford - Top Defensive Forward
Riley Nash - First Team All-ECAC
Ben Scrivens, Brendon Nash, Colin Greening - Second Team All-ECAC
Keir Ross - All-Rookie Team

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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: March 17, 2009 03:02PM

pfibiger
Tyler Mugford - Top Defensive Forward
Riley Nash - First Team All-ECAC
Ben Scrivens, Brendon Nash, Colin Greening - Second Team All-ECAC
Keir Ross - All-Rookie Team

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Can't disagree. Riley Nash-Honorable Mention Ivy? Yeah I know they are different leagues, but even other newspaper articles have questioned that. But again who really cares about Ivy hockey.

 
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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: March 17, 2009 03:30PM

Greening was 5-7-12, Nash was 3-5-8 in Ivy competition. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.

 
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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Trotsky (199.46.196.---)
Date: March 17, 2009 07:01PM

pfibiger
Tyler Mugford - Top Defensive Forward
Keir Ross - All-Rookie Team

Really glad to see both of these. Tyler getting the recognition is outstanding. For Ross, I'm just glad to see we're not completely crazy in thinking he'll be a strong cornerstone of the D in '11 and '12.
 
Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 17, 2009 08:04PM

CowbellGuy
Greening was 5-7-12, Nash was 3-5-8 in Ivy competition. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
But then there were 3 other players with Ivy stats better than Nash who got nothing. Nash's stats were equal to Vokes and Wilson. But who knows how they pick them, maybe couldn't pick any more Yale forwards so had to pick Nash. Anyway I still feel no one will care about this after the year is done. Much like Harkness told Dryden when told Princeton wanted him as they were going for Ivy title, we're going for national title. Get what's important and forget the rest.

 
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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: sah67 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 17, 2009 08:17PM

Trotsky
pfibiger
Tyler Mugford - Top Defensive Forward
Keir Ross - All-Rookie Team

Really glad to see both of these. Tyler getting the recognition is outstanding.

Agree...it's a very nice feather in his cap, and also great to see the league recognizing just how important Mugford is to this team.
 
Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: KeithK (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date: March 17, 2009 11:23PM

Jim Hyla
CowbellGuy
Greening was 5-7-12, Nash was 3-5-8 in Ivy competition. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
But then there were 3 other players with Ivy stats better than Nash who got nothing. Nash's stats were equal to Vokes and Wilson. But who knows how they pick them, maybe couldn't pick any more Yale forwards so had to pick Nash.
These awards are not supposed to be simple stat counters (top 3 point getters get first team, etc.) so the fact that others had more points than Nash shouldn't necessarily matter. Obviously voters (the coaches I assume) do use points as a proxy to some degree but it's just not the whole story.
 
Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 17, 2009 11:50PM

Jim Hyla
CowbellGuy
Greening was 5-7-12, Nash was 3-5-8 in Ivy competition. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
But then there were 3 other players with Ivy stats better than Nash who got nothing. Nash's stats were equal to Vokes and Wilson. But who knows how they pick them, maybe couldn't pick any more Yale forwards so had to pick Nash. Anyway I still feel no one will care about this after the year is done. Much like Harkness told Dryden when told Princeton wanted him as they were going for Ivy title, we're going for national title. Get what's important and forget the rest.

I heard he told Dryden, "We're going for the only unbeaten, untied NCAA championship team in history." Good thing he did, 'cause Dryden made the coach look like a prophet! woot
 
Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 18, 2009 12:10AM

Swampy
I heard he told Dryden, "We're going for the only unbeaten, untied NCAA championship team in history." Good thing he did, 'cause Dryden made the coach look like a prophet! woot

bang

 
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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Germ (---.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com)
Date: March 18, 2009 12:25AM

Swampy
Jim Hyla
CowbellGuy
Greening was 5-7-12, Nash was 3-5-8 in Ivy competition. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
But then there were 3 other players with Ivy stats better than Nash who got nothing. Nash's stats were equal to Vokes and Wilson. But who knows how they pick them, maybe couldn't pick any more Yale forwards so had to pick Nash. Anyway I still feel no one will care about this after the year is done. Much like Harkness told Dryden when told Princeton wanted him as they were going for Ivy title, we're going for national title. Get what's important and forget the rest.

I heard he told Dryden, "We're going for the only unbeaten, untied NCAA championship team in history." Good thing he did, 'cause Dryden made the coach look like a prophet! woot

Was Dryden actually on the undefeated untied team? I thought he was on the other national championship team.
 
Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 18, 2009 12:30AM

Germ
Swampy
I heard he told Dryden, "We're going for the only unbeaten, untied NCAA championship team in history." Good thing he did, 'cause Dryden made the coach look like a prophet! woot

Was Dryden actually on the undefeated untied team? I thought he was on the other national championship team.

He was. Brian Cropper was the goalie in 1969-70.

Hence, bang

 
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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: nr53 (---.cisco.com)
Date: March 18, 2009 01:17AM

Beeeej
He was. Brian Cropper was the goalie in 1969-70.

Hence, bang

I kinda read that as more sarcasm, but maybe that was just me.
 
Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: March 18, 2009 08:36AM

KeithK
Jim Hyla
CowbellGuy
Greening was 5-7-12, Nash was 3-5-8 in Ivy competition. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
But then there were 3 other players with Ivy stats better than Nash who got nothing. Nash's stats were equal to Vokes and Wilson. But who knows how they pick them, maybe couldn't pick any more Yale forwards so had to pick Nash.
These awards are not supposed to be simple stat counters (top 3 point getters get first team, etc.) so the fact that others had more points than Nash shouldn't necessarily matter. Obviously voters (the coaches I assume) do use points as a proxy to some degree but it's just not the whole story.
That was my point to Age. I only pointed out the stats to show it wasn't just based on stats, as he suggested. I guess the point being that if he was so good in the ECAC, but not in the Ivy, he must have looked spectacular in the non-Ivy ECAC games. Or maybe the Ivy selections are meaningless.

 
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Re: ECAC Awards
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 18, 2009 08:35PM

Beeeej
Swampy
I heard he told Dryden, "We're going for the only unbeaten, untied NCAA championship team in history." Good thing he did, 'cause Dryden made the coach look like a prophet! woot

bang
I assumed Swampy was kidding.

 
 

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