Cornell Hockey To Hold Jersey Auction

I saw this on the Athletics website.

[cornellbigred.com]

I like the #35 Legendary Player, despite the fact that the explanation is given.

How often has this been done at Cornell?

I like similar RIP auction which is a current player black jersey bidding on "Black Friday", but it is done every year. It has lost some interest and I believe the dollar amounts have lessened over time.

Very cool. I only hope that someone fills in the Niagara broadcast team beforehand so they're not referring to Matt Moulson on defense, and a starting line of Giuliani, Lodboa, and Hughes

Cool idea. Using Nike swifr jerseys kind of ruins it for me though. Those things are ugly, even in red and white.

KeithK
Cool idea. Using Nike swifr jerseys kind of ruins it for me though. Those things are ugly, even in red and white.

I'm choosing to believe that the team knows that they're ugly jerseys and thinks this is the best way to get rid of them.

Maybe these are the test jerseys they had sitting around from that Florida trip a few years back. It is, however, a chance to get a jersey with "Cornell" on the front and back.

CowbellGuy
Maybe these are the test jerseys they had sitting around from that Florida trip a few years back.

Sounds like it:

The jerseys, which are the Nike Swift Jerseys that the Big Red debuted during the Florida College Classic in 2006-07, will then be auctioned off.

Those things were hideous.

ebilmes

CowbellGuy
Maybe these are the test jerseys they had sitting around from that Florida trip a few years back.

Sounds like it:

The jerseys, which are the Nike Swift Jerseys that the Big Red debuted during the Florida College Classic in 2006-07, will then be auctioned off.

Those things were hideous.

Yes, but not as ugly as the last set of charity auction jerseys.

Hi All-
Pete Shier '78 here. I'm bringing the team I coach in toronto (north york knights - 15 year olds) down to Ithaca to see the 2 Niagara games Jan 9/10th. I notice that my name & number (#5) is being honoured which I'm both humbled and excited by.
Can someone explain to me how I (or some of the other parents on my team) might go about 'buying' one of the jersey's after the game?
Many thanks and looking forward to returning to Ithaca again.

pman78
Hi All-
Pete Shier '78 here. I'm bringing the team I coach in toronto (north york knights - 15 year olds) down to Ithaca to see the 2 Niagara games Jan 9/10th. I notice that my name & number (#5) is being honoured which I'm both humbled and excited by.
Can someone explain to me how I (or some of the other parents on my team) might go about 'buying' one of the jersey's after the game?
Many thanks and looking forward to returning to Ithaca again.

Nice to hear from you, it brings back many memories. We don't know the specifics yet, but the last time they did this it was an auction handled by the hockey office. It went on for a couple of weeks, if I remember correctly. Also if I remember correctly, if you put down an initial bid, then they would keep you informed of any new bids, I think by email, and you had the option to bid up. So that first night all you could do was to bid and get your name in.

Anyone else with better memory?

From the Cornell Athletics announcement of the jersey auction:

"#16 Jordan Berk, who already wears the same number his father, Doug, wore during his playing days with the Big Red, will wear his father's name on the back of his jersey."

Sadly, he won't.

Peter:

Contact Sue Detzer at the hockey office. She'll have the details on the auction as they become available and possibly before they are posted online. Lot's of great memories watching you play. Looking forward to seeing you in Ithaca with your team.

Larry '72

pman78
Hi All-
Pete Shier '78 here. I'm bringing the team I coach in toronto (north york knights - 15 year olds) down to Ithaca to see the 2 Niagara games Jan 9/10th. I notice that my name & number (#5) is being honoured which I'm both humbled and excited by.
Can someone explain to me how I (or some of the other parents on my team) might go about 'buying' one of the jersey's after the game?
Many thanks and looking forward to returning to Ithaca again.

Pete, congrats on the honor...Will your boys be playing any local competition while in town?

We tried to organize an exhibition game but couldn't find any teams available to play us. My connections in Ithaca are limited now but if anyone out there has or knows of a good 14/15 year old team that wants a game that weekend, drop me a line! (we're a pretty successful Toronto based AA team - last year we were undefeated in regular season play, won the provincial championships and this year so far are in first place in our league.) Our boys would love to play, even if it was just a 'friendly'. And if we could convince Mike S. to 'donate' an hour of Lynah ice, so much the better!

Anyone else think the name on the back of #19 should read "Orr?"

Me. I mean I.

And while we're at it, How about:

2 O'Byrne Dan Ratushny
16 Berk Mike Doran, PC Drouin, Greg Hornby
23 Jeff Baikie Andy Crowley (Just cuz I played football with him and he was the only American on the Harkness team that year)

Definitely Ratushny,I would also like to see Jones,Dragon,Andison and the other Hughes maybe just cause thats who I grew up watching.

Al DeFlorio
Anyone else think the name on the back of #19 should read "Orr?"

Yes, and with all due respect to Brock Tredway, this link also calls into question whose name should be on the back of #7. Holding the school records for goals per game, goals per season, and penalty minutes per game, as well as #5 on assists per game and #2 on PPG, as well as a national championship, I just don't think players should be penalized because as freshmen they couldn't play varsity.

Swampy

Al DeFlorio
Anyone else think the name on the back of #19 should read "Orr?"

Yes, and with all due respect to Brock Tredway, this link also calls into question whose name should be on the back of #7. Holding the school records for goals per game, goals per season, and penalty minutes per game, as well as #5 on assists per game and #2 on PPG, as well as a national championship, I just don't think players should be penalized because as freshmen they couldn't play varsity.

Maybe this link.

Uni numbers through last year.

Trotsky

Swampy

Al DeFlorio
Anyone else think the name on the back of #19 should read "Orr?"

Yes, and with all due respect to Brock Tredway, this link also calls into question whose name should be on the back of #7. Holding the school records for goals per game, goals per season, and penalty minutes per game, as well as #5 on assists per game and #2 on PPG, as well as a national championship. I just don't think players should be penalized because as freshmen they couldn't play varsity.

Maybe this link.

Uni numbers through last year.

Thanks, Al.

I tried to get direct links to the specific records, but Firefox shows [www.tbrw.info] as the URL for both the Records and the Home pages on TBRW. I didn't think of copying the URL from the links in the pages.

Swampy
I tried to get direct links to the specific records, but Firefox shows [www.tbrw.info] as the URL for both the Records and the Home pages on TBRW. I didn't think of copying the URL from the links in the pages.

The top URL always shows in the Frame page (I know... css is coming eventually, as is xml and xsl, but I have a job), but if you right click a link and open in a new tab/page, then the Browser will show the direct url.

Trotsky

Swampy

Al DeFlorio
Anyone else think the name on the back of #19 should read "Orr?"

Yes, and with all due respect to Brock Tredway, this link also calls into question whose name should be on the back of #7. Holding the school records for goals per game, goals per season, and penalty minutes per game, as well as #5 on assists per game and #2 on PPG, as well as a national championship, I just don't think players should be penalized because as freshmen they couldn't play varsity.

Maybe this link.

Uni numbers through last year.

There have been a lot of great number 7s at Cornell. As one who saw all of them (at least since 63), there is no one other than Doug Ferguson that I'd rather have wear that number on my team. He was great in all aspects of the game. Obviously, he scored a lot, but also obviously by his assist totals he was no slouch there. He never shied away from the physical aspects, sometimes to a fault. In those years we never concentrated on watching defense like we currently do, but I'm sure his +/- would have been great.

Unfortunately, except for a few, such as my beloved 14 Lodboa, we tend to turn away from the past and feel the more recent are better. Oh well, I'm just glad I was able to see him/them.

Trotsky

Swampy
I tried to get direct links to the specific records, but Firefox shows [www.tbrw.info] as the URL for both the Records and the Home pages on TBRW. I didn't think of copying the URL from the links in the pages.

The top URL always shows in the Frame page (I know... css is coming eventually, as is xml and xsl, but I have a job), but if you right click a link and open in a new tab/page, then the Browser will show the direct url.

Well, CSS has been here for a number of years actually.

I get around the frame URL issue with a little CGI script that can be used to link to a frameset.

Glad I'm not the only one who remembers Dan Ratushny. I feel younger now

This auction seems like it might have had its roots in something Coach Schafer had his players do in his first year as head coach; research and write up a blurb on the best Cornell player ever to wear their number. (I don't know if Coach Schafer had his later teams do this) I mention it in part because I think they should have had Mike Garman take the Eddy Skazyk route. Skazyk, still the best (and only) player to wear #39 for the Big Red, wound up researching #1, as it was not uncommon for pre-1970-or-so teams to have multiple goaltenders wear that number. As I recall, Skazyk picked Darren Eliot, as Ken Dryden was already spoken for.

Anyway, it's good that the current Big Red was able to honor a couple top-notch players who wore #6 (Nethery) and #25 (Nieuwendyk) -- but I note that this year's roster doesn't have an 11 or 26 either (or a 13, but never mind that). For 26, although I really liked Matt Cooney, I guess I'd nominate Topher Scott.

11 is tougher, though. It looks like, in a lot of instances, that number was worn either by someone who wasn't with the team long or who switched numbers later in his career (like Doug Derraugh). Maybe Mitch Carefoot gets the nod by being the only player to wear 11 for all four years -- but I think I would go waaaayyyyy back and nominate Jim Stevens, who played for the Big Red from 1961-64 and scored 72 points in 59 games for a Cornell program that was still in the process of building itself. If that's not enough, he assisted on the first goal of Cornell's 2-1 win over near-national-power Harvard in 1962 -- a victory that put the Big Red hockey team on the map.

[/rambling]

Give My Regards
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers Dan Ratushny. I feel younger now

This auction seems like it might have had its roots in something Coach Schafer had his players do in his first year as head coach; research and write up a blurb on the best Cornell player ever to wear their number. (I don't know if Coach Schafer had his later teams do this) I mention it in part because I think they should have had Mike Garman take the Eddy Skazyk route. Skazyk, still the best (and only) player to wear #39 for the Big Red, wound up researching #1, as it was not uncommon for pre-1970-or-so teams to have multiple goaltenders wear that number. As I recall, Skazyk picked Darren Eliot, as Ken Dryden was already spoken for.

Anyway, it's good that the current Big Red was able to honor a couple top-notch players who wore #6 (Nethery) and #25 (Nieuwendyk) -- but I note that this year's roster doesn't have an 11 or 26 either (or a 13, but never mind that). For 26, although I really liked Matt Cooney, I guess I'd nominate Topher Scott.

11 is tougher, though. It looks like, in a lot of instances, that number was worn either by someone who wasn't with the team long or who switched numbers later in his career (like Doug Derraugh). Maybe Mitch Carefoot gets the nod by being the only player to wear 11 for all four years -- but I think I would go waaaayyyyy back and nominate Jim Stevens, who played for the Big Red from 1961-64 and scored 72 points in 59 games for a Cornell program that was still in the process of building itself. If that's not enough, he assisted on the first goal of Cornell's 2-1 win over near-national-power Harvard in 1962 -- a victory that put the Big Red hockey team on the map.

[/rambling]

Yeah, I agree, this event seems like it was put forth to be researched by the players and the decision made by them. The only other "3rd jersey" auction that was done several years ago was in the "best player to wear the number" theme. (I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above) Those #'s seemed to be determined by the admin.

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

Al DeFlorio
Yes, and with all due respect to Brock Tredway, this link also calls into question whose name should be on the back of #7. Holding the school records for goals per game, goals per season, and penalty minutes per game, as well as #5 on assists per game and #2 on PPG, as well as a national championship, I just don't think players should be penalized because as freshmen they couldn't play varsity.

In defense of Brock Tredway, he was a classy guy and and an excellent player. He also was a starter on the men's soccer team, which was quite good at the time, and his statistics would have been even better if he had concentrated solely on hockey. We're not all going to agree with the decisions the current players made on whom to put on their jerseys. The fact that there are so many great players for Cornell whose names aren't being included is a tribute to our program.

dbilmes

Al DeFlorio
Yes, and with all due respect to Brock Tredway, this link also calls into question whose name should be on the back of #7. Holding the school records for goals per game, goals per season, and penalty minutes per game, as well as #5 on assists per game and #2 on PPG, as well as a national championship, I just don't think players should be penalized because as freshmen they couldn't play varsity.

In defense of Brock Tredway, he was a classy guy and and an excellent player. He also was a starter on the men's soccer team, which was quite good at the time, and his statistics would have been even better if he had concentrated solely on hockey. We're not all going to agree with the decisions the current players made on whom to put on their jerseys. The fact that there are so many great players for Cornell whose names aren't being included is a tribute to our program.

Just for the record, the quote attributed to me above is swampy's, not mine.

I don't think anyone here has intended to slight Brock Tredway in any way, shape, or form. He was, indeed, a great Cornell hockey player.

jtwcornell91

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

And yet you spelled it right and Rich didn't. Go figure.

RichH

Give My Regards
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers Dan Ratushny. I feel younger now

This auction seems like it might have had its roots in something Coach Schafer had his players do in his first year as head coach; research and write up a blurb on the best Cornell player ever to wear their number. (I don't know if Coach Schafer had his later teams do this) I mention it in part because I think they should have had Mike Garman take the Eddy Skazyk route. Skazyk, still the best (and only) player to wear #39 for the Big Red, wound up researching #1, as it was not uncommon for pre-1970-or-so teams to have multiple goaltenders wear that number. As I recall, Skazyk picked Darren Eliot, as Ken Dryden was already spoken for.

Anyway, it's good that the current Big Red was able to honor a couple top-notch players who wore #6 (Nethery) and #25 (Nieuwendyk) -- but I note that this year's roster doesn't have an 11 or 26 either (or a 13, but never mind that). For 26, although I really liked Matt Cooney, I guess I'd nominate Topher Scott.

11 is tougher, though. It looks like, in a lot of instances, that number was worn either by someone who wasn't with the team long or who switched numbers later in his career (like Doug Derraugh). Maybe Mitch Carefoot gets the nod by being the only player to wear 11 for all four years -- but I think I would go waaaayyyyy back and nominate Jim Stevens, who played for the Big Red from 1961-64 and scored 72 points in 59 games for a Cornell program that was still in the process of building itself. If that's not enough, he assisted on the first goal of Cornell's 2-1 win over near-national-power Harvard in 1962 -- a victory that put the Big Red hockey team on the map.

[/rambling]

Yeah, I agree, this event seems like it was put forth to be researched by the players and the decision made by them. The only other "3rd jersey" auction that was done several years ago was in the "best player to wear the number" theme. (I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above) Those #'s seemed to be determined by the admin.

I was under the impression that those numbers were picked by the players as well, but I could be wrong.

jtwcornell91

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

Apparently, I wasn't sure either.

My guess is the numbers have no significance - they were just the numbers that came with those awful jersies. Wanting to get rid of these dogs, some clever person thought that by adding nameplates of The Heroes they could foist them off on the likes of us.

And they're probably right.

RichH

jtwcornell91

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

Apparently, I wasn't sure either.

Being sure wasn't your problem.

jtwcornell91

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

To continue the rambling, I believe that jersey fetched the most money in that auction, having been bought by Darren himself. I guess he really wanted to make sure he got it.

TimV
My guess is the numbers have no significance - they were just the numbers that came with those awful jersies. Wanting to get rid of these dogs, some clever person thought that by adding nameplates of The Heroes they could foist them off on the likes of us.

And they're probably right.

I'm sorry, I definitely meant the names were picked by the players the first time as well. At least, that is my recollection. Regardless, the numbers are certainly just a team set.

Josh '99

jtwcornell91

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

And yet you spelled it right and Rich didn't. Go figure.

I had to look it up. (My guess was going to be Tymschychyn.)

jtwcornell91

Josh '99

jtwcornell91

RichH
(I believe #11 was Darren Tymshysyn, he of the defunct UIC transfer, to contribute to the rambling about that number above)

I was going to make that point, although I wasn't sure how to spell Tymchyshyn.

And yet you spelled it right and Rich didn't. Go figure.

I had to look it up. (My guess was going to be Tymschychyn.)

If you use the letter "y" where you might otherwise think to put a soft letter "i", it's actually spelled exactly like it sounds.

Short piece in today's Ithaca Journal describing auction mechanics: [www.theithacajournal.com]

I must say it is pretty cool to see Dan Lodboa back on the ice.

too bad mugford didn't choose baby, even if only to hear the "hey baby" cheer this weekend

bernie
too bad mugford didn't choose baby, even if only to hear the "hey baby" cheer this weekend

Dang, that would have been nice...I did, however, enjoy seeing Schafer break his stick over his head during the introductions, since I missed the original.

Perhaps unexpected detail: while the "CORNELL" and most of the numbers are in the ugly Nike Swift skinny sans-serif font, anything that was put on after is in normal block characters. This includes the nameplates, as well as the numbers on jerseys that were not present in Florida, like 4, 9 and 35. FYI.

jtwcornell91
Perhaps unexpected detail: while the "CORNELL" and most of the numbers are in the ugly Nike Swift skinny sans-serif font, anything that was put on after is in normal block characters. This includes the nameplates, as well as the numbers on jerseys that were not present in Florida, like 4, 9 and 35. FYI.

Scary. I noticed that, too.

Those are still pretty ugly, tho.

jtwcornell91
Perhaps unexpected detail: while the "CORNELL" and most of the numbers are in the ugly Nike Swift skinny sans-serif font, anything that was put on after is in normal block characters. This includes the nameplates, as well as the numbers on jerseys that were not present in Florida, like 4, 9 and 35. FYI.

Just checked the DVR, and the "CORNELL" lettering appears to be in the same serifed font as on the traditional unis.

Al DeFlorio

jtwcornell91
Perhaps unexpected detail: while the "CORNELL" and most of the numbers are in the ugly Nike Swift skinny sans-serif font, anything that was put on after is in normal block characters. This includes the nameplates, as well as the numbers on jerseys that were not present in Florida, like 4, 9 and 35. FYI.

Just checked the DVR, and the "CORNELL" lettering appears to be in the same serifed font as on the traditional unis.

Oops, I was just assuming. I guess Nike considered it part of the logo and didn't re-font it.

The unis do still have the unfortunate vertical white panels and no horizontal stripe.

jtwcornell91
The unis do still have the unfortunate vertical white panels and no horizontal stripe.

Don't get me wrong: They're still ugly, even with the correct "Cornell" font.

So...you're not bidding Al? Even on the Dryden shirt?

I'd love a Dryden, but it would have to be the traditional design. With the laces too.

that's hilarious - anyone have a video of that?

TimV
So...you're not bidding Al? Even on the Dryden shirt?

I'd love a Dryden, but it would have to be the traditional design. With the laces too.

I'd love a traditional Cornell sweater with "Dryden," but not the Nike one. I could even pass on the laces. At the summer golf event where they honored the NCAA championship teams, they auctioned off a Labatt's hockey sweater autographed by Ken and it brought a bundle.

Give My Regards
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers Dan Ratushny. I feel younger now

We're all still young!