Andy Iles ---> Cornell '10

www.ushr.com is reporting that goalie Andy Iles of the Salisbury School, an Ithaca native, has committed to Cornell for 2010. Others after him included BC, UNH, Harvard, and Providence,

ursusminor
www.ushr.com is reporting that goalie Andy Iles of the Salisbury School, an Ithaca native, has committed to Cornell for 2010. Others after him included BC, UNH, Harvard, and Providence,

I remember hear something about a really good goalie at Ithaca High School a year or two ago - did he play there before going to Salisbury?

Yes he did. He was the starting goalie for IHS as a Freshman and led them to a state title.

He is considered one of, if not _the_ top goaltender of his age in the United States. A huge pickup for the Red.

Wasn't Garman pretty highly touted himself? What does this recruit mean for his future?

So with DiLeo and Davenport graduating this year we're only going to have two goalies on the roster?

nr53
So with DiLeo and Davenport graduating this year we're only going to have two goalies on the roster?

It'll hardly be the first time.

pfibiger
He is considered one of, if not _the_ top goaltender of his age in the United States. A huge pickup for the Red.

Wow, that 2010 class is shaping up to be something else. We all know to take rankings with a grain of salt, but consider this.

* Iles is ranked the top goalie in the Northeast and, by most accounts, in the U.S.
* Kevin Cole is the #2 forward in the Northeast.
* Armand de Swardt is the #4 forward in the Western U.S.
* Mathieu Brisson is #7 defender in Eastern Canada
* Jarred Seymour is #50 defender in Eastern Canada

Then in 2011 we have
* John Knisley, #24 F in the Northeast
* Ben Thomson, #2 F in Eastern Canada

Compare this to the class of '09, which still looks pretty good but only John Esposito has a single-digit rank. I don't recall seeing an incoming Cornell class with anything near this high a level of ranking across the board. Is my impression correct?

Now we just have to be careful and not do what Harvard seems to be doing -- combining excellent recruiting classes with sucky performance on the ice. Somehow I have faith that Mike Schafer, who is a proven winner, won't let this happen.

Beeeej

nr53
So with DiLeo and Davenport graduating this year we're only going to have two goalies on the roster?

It'll hardly be the first time.

Granted, but it's clearly not Schafer's preferred situation. It'll only be the third such season in his time at Cornell (98-99 with Underhill and Burt; 04-05 with McKee and Chabot).

Josh '99

Beeeej

nr53
So with DiLeo and Davenport graduating this year we're only going to have two goalies on the roster?

It'll hardly be the first time.

Granted, but it's clearly not Schafer's preferred situation. It'll only be the third such season in his time at Cornell (98-99 with Underhill and Burt; 04-05 with McKee and Chabot).

The coaching staff has about four months to round up a third-string goalie. I suspect that it will not be a formidable task.

RPI has been going with a true walkon as a third string goalie for years. Knock on wood, it has yet to have been a problem. This year they had 5 goalies try out, and Joe Harkenrider when the honor of opening the door to the bench for home games. Interestingly, the last cut, who also dressed for RPI's Red-White game, Nick Loran, is Neil Little's son from a "relationship" back in Alberta.

When's the last time Cornell had to use a third string goalie in a game? I'm not talking about letting the third stringer play in garbage time either. Off hand I can't recall it happening in my time following the team.

KeithK
When's the last time Cornell had to use a third string goalie in a game? I'm not talking about letting the third stringer play in garbage time either. Off hand I can't recall it happening in my time following the team.

Chris Gartman saw non-garbage time in both the 2000 and 2001 seasons, when Underhill and Burt were first and second. If I recall correctly, he not only replaced Underhill halfway through an uncharacteristically poor performance from Matt once, but he also started at least one non-conference game at some point (and got pulled for Burt).

Josh '99

Beeeej

nr53
So with DiLeo and Davenport graduating this year we're only going to have two goalies on the roster?

It'll hardly be the first time.

Granted, but it's clearly not Schafer's preferred situation. It'll only be the third such season in his time at Cornell (98-99 with Underhill and Burt; 04-05 with McKee and Chabot).

Should also be noted (knocking on my wooden keyboard) that Garman missed some time due to injuries each of his two years in Nanaimo. Also, if Iles continues to develop he could be in the running for National Junior team honors down the road -- the USHR article points out that many people thought he was the best goalie in the NTDP camp last summer & probably should have been invited to the U17 program.

Maybe the staff will see if AJ Fiore can play goalie (on the ice). Fiore is ranked as the 2nd best goalie in the contry by Inside Lacrosse (13th best player overall) and is heading to Cornell next year. Fiore plays forward on the Little Red hockey team, at least he can skate.

ithacat
Maybe the staff will see if AJ Fiore can play goalie (on the ice). Fiore is ranked as the 2nd best goalie in the contry by Inside Lacrosse (13th best player overall) and is heading to Cornell next year. Fiore plays forward on the Little Red hockey team, at least he can skate.

Thanks for reminding me of that.

the number 2 goalie to brian cropper on the 1960-70 team was the lacrosse goalie.

hypotenuse
the number 2 goalie to brian cropper on the 1960-70 team was the lacrosse goalie.

Bob Rule '71 who was All-America in lacrosse and somewhat less honored in hockey. Rule got hurt at the end of the 1971 championship lacrosse season but his backup was like honorable mention All-America, I believe.

billhoward

hypotenuse
the number 2 goalie to brian cropper on the 1960-70 team was the lacrosse goalie.

Bob Rule '71 who was All-America in lacrosse and somewhat less honored in hockey. Rule got hurt at the end of the 1971 championship lacrosse season but his backup was like honorable mention All-America, I believe.

Bob Buhmann was named honorable-mention AA. IIRC, he made 22 saves while allowing six goals in the championship game after Rule was hurt earlier. Every backup's dream.

Jordan 04
Wasn't Garman pretty highly touted himself? What does this recruit mean for his future?

Garman was highly touted. Assuming he doesn't unseat Ben for the remainder of this year or next, then he and Iles will battle for the top slot beginning his junior year.

Trotsky

Jordan 04
Wasn't Garman pretty highly touted himself? What does this recruit mean for his future?

Garman was highly touted. Assuming he doesn't unseat Ben for the remainder of this year or next, then he and Iles will battle for the top slot beginning his junior year.

Has Schafer ever used alternating goalies?

Swampy

Trotsky

Jordan 04
Wasn't Garman pretty highly touted himself? What does this recruit mean for his future?

Garman was highly touted. Assuming he doesn't unseat Ben for the remainder of this year or next, then he and Iles will battle for the top slot beginning his junior year.

Has Schafer ever used alternating goalies?

IIRC, Underhill and Burt bounced back and forth. Schafer definitely seems to prefer one lead dog.

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky

Jordan 04
Wasn't Garman pretty highly touted himself? What does this recruit mean for his future?

Garman was highly touted. Assuming he doesn't unseat Ben for the remainder of this year or next, then he and Iles will battle for the top slot beginning his junior year.

Has Schafer ever used alternating goalies?

IIRC, Underhill and Burt bounced back and forth. Schafer definitely seems to prefer one lead dog.

In 2001-02, Matt Underhill and David LeNeveu each played one night per weekend.

For what it's worth, I don't think Mike Garman came in as a blue-chip prospect. He had a great age-19 season for Nanaimo, when he outplayed Marc Cheverie. His age-20 season was decent, but he did not take a big step forward from his age-19 season.

That said, Garman's presence should ensure that Andy Iles isn't handed the #1 job on a silver platter.

Y'know, we really haven't had a good name-specific "goalie/sieve" chant in a while - like "Elliott/Idiot" and "Underhill/Underskilled" (or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did). It'd be nice if the coaching staff would adjust their recruiting with an eye toward providing us with more entertaining chant opportunities.

"Iles/Peninsulas" just doesn't cut it.

Beeeej
Y'know, we really haven't had a good name-specific "goalie/sieve" chant in a while - like "Elliott/Idiot" and "Underhill/Underskilled" (or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did). It'd be nice if the coaching staff would adjust their recruiting with an eye toward providing us with more entertaining chant opportunities.

"Iles/Peninsulas" just doesn't cut it.

Garman/Charmin?

Beeeej
Y'know, we really haven't had a good name-specific "goalie/sieve" chant in a while - like "Elliott/Idiot" and "Underhill/Underskilled" (or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did). It'd be nice if the coaching staff would adjust their recruiting with an eye toward providing us with more entertaining chant opportunities.

"Iles/Peninsulas" just doesn't cut it.

Although it doesn't have the symmetry in these cheers, when I Googled Andy Iles I noticed something that I thought was pretty clever: "God saves, Andy shuts out."

I think the coaches should take seriously your larger point about name-based recruiting. Look how well we did when we recruited goalies named after upstate NY towns. Have you cc'd MS with a copy of your post?

ithacat

Beeeej
Y'know, we really haven't had a good name-specific "goalie/sieve" chant in a while - like "Elliott/Idiot" and "Underhill/Underskilled" (or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did). It'd be nice if the coaching staff would adjust their recruiting with an eye toward providing us with more entertaining chant opportunities.

"Iles/Peninsulas" just doesn't cut it.

Garman/Charmin?

Andy/Dandy or Andy/Candy...ass? (Can we use "ass" on this forum?)

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky

Jordan 04
Wasn't Garman pretty highly touted himself? What does this recruit mean for his future?

Garman was highly touted. Assuming he doesn't unseat Ben for the remainder of this year or next, then he and Iles will battle for the top slot beginning his junior year.

Has Schafer ever used alternating goalies?

IIRC, Underhill and Burt bounced back and forth. Schafer definitely seems to prefer one lead dog.

In his first several seasons at Cornell Shafer routinely used a goalie platoon/rotation. When February rolled around he would pick the hot hand and ride that guy through the playoffs.

95-96 Skazyk/Elliott
96-97 Elliott/Pelletier
98-99 Burt/Underhill
99-00 Burt/Underhill

The pattern stuck for long enough that it seemed clear at the time that this was Schafer's philosophy (and maybe it was then). Since then he has tended to look for his number 1 guy as soon as possible and stick with him almost exclusively.

Beeeej
(or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did)

It didn't catch on because Bert is the evil one.

A little old time, but how about Andy...Raggedy...Andy...Raggedy.

I also wouldn't mind a "Good Andy, Bad Andy" cheer, but it would have nothing to do with our opponent.

More on Iles in today's Ithaca Journal: [www.theithacajournal.com]

Jeff Hopkins '82
A little old time, but how about Andy...Raggedy...Andy...Raggedy.

I also wouldn't mind a "Good Andy, Bad Andy" cheer, but it would have nothing to do with our opponent.

Then we have Iles/Viles.

Or, for those who remember the racist radio and TV show, "Amiss and Andy."

Finally, not to forget Garman and referring to a leading manufacturer of GPS systems: Garman/Lost.

AmOs and Andy...

It was also a racist TV show.

LaJollaRed
AmOs and Andy...

It was also a racist TV show.

Hey LJR, that joke called. It said, *WHOOSH*.

**Hangs head in shame**

Take pity. I had to work yesterday. Heh.

I'm always for updating the Underhill (Underdog) song....We've had a fortunate streak of three-syllable goalie names for a while, and haven't utilized it much at all:

Leneveu
Dave McKee
Davenport
Ben Scrivens
DiLeo
Andy Iles

ithacat

Beeeej
Y'know, we really haven't had a good name-specific "goalie/sieve" chant in a while - like "Elliott/Idiot" and "Underhill/Underskilled" (or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did). It'd be nice if the coaching staff would adjust their recruiting with an eye toward providing us with more entertaining chant opportunities.

"Iles/Peninsulas" just doesn't cut it.

Garman/Charmin?

And, if the opposing goalie is named Tom:
Garman/Tom Tom

redice

ithacat

Beeeej
Y'know, we really haven't had a good name-specific "goalie/sieve" chant in a while - like "Elliott/Idiot" and "Underhill/Underskilled" (or "Burt/Ernie," which I always hoped would catch on, but unaccountably never did). It'd be nice if the coaching staff would adjust their recruiting with an eye toward providing us with more entertaining chant opportunities.

"Iles/Peninsulas" just doesn't cut it.

Garman/Charmin?

And, if the opposing goalie is named Tom:
Garman/Tom Tom

Actually "Garman...Lost" occurred to me, but it seemed too much of a stretch.

I always sing it. Quietly. I'm sure I'm the only one.

ithacat
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Maybe the staff will see if AJ Fiore can play goalie (on the ice). Fiore is ranked as the 2nd best goalie in the contry by Inside Lacrosse (13th best player overall) and is heading to Cornell next year. Fiore plays forward on the Little Red hockey team, at least he can skate.

Two goals and an assist last night in a 3-1 IHS win.

Thats my cousin.

Al DeFlorio

ithacat
...Fiore plays forward on the Little Red hockey team, at least he can skate.

Two goals and an assist last night in a 3-1 IHS win.

He's one of the few offensive options on this year's Little Red. Not sure why Teo Camadella isn't playing with IHS. He was one of the top scorers at the Select 14 festival last summer.

Teo Camadella plays for the Syracuse Stars.

He is a very good player,I have played with him before.

Cop at Lynah
Teo Camadella plays for the Syracuse Stars.

Which level? I don't see him on either of the rosters. Maybe the lists are obsolete or they have a broader program than just the EJHL and Empire League teams, as I don't see any 1994 birthdays.

David Harding

Cop at Lynah
Teo Camadella plays for the Syracuse Stars.

Which level? I don't see him on either of the rosters. Maybe the lists are obsolete or they have a broader program than just the EJHL and Empire League teams, as I don't see any 1994 birthdays.

He's in their AAA program, I think. He's the kind of kid IHS needs to get a year or two out of before moving on. I suspect if he stays with Syracuse he'll be playing JrB next season, just a guess.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Actually "Garman...Lost" occurred to me, but it seemed too much of a stretch.

It'll never happen. But i absolutely love this.