Age you gotta explain...
Posted by atb9
Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: atb9 (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 08:16PM
...what the heck happened at RPI at the end of the second period??
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Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 08:33PM
Or maybe you should do it under this topic, " Re: Why you (as a fan) should behave at a hockey game ".
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: KeithK (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 09:29PM
I'll hazard a guess that the rink staff tried to toss him for throwing a hat on the ice after it looked like Bâby had a hat trick. Then I imagine he argued with them and they finally let him back in.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Ben Doyle 03 (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 09:45PM
They just gave him a stern talking to and told him NOT to throw things on the ice, then they let him go back to his seat.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: gwm3 (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 09:56PM
Even the Lynah Gestapo didn't get mad when people threw hats on the ice for Paolini's false alarm hat trick last year. Heck, they even returned the hats to people.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 10:17PM
The rink *staff* at Ingalls stole my hat after a Cornell hat trick there about 10 years ago. Then their extremely large frat-type supervisor gave me a loving grin and said, "Duhhhhh.... I didn't see any hat, did you Frank?" Frank hadn't either.
We got the win; I hope they liked the hat.
We got the win; I hope they liked the hat.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: atb9 (---)
Date: January 18, 2003 10:24PM
frat-type supervisor? Someone needs to go sit in the corner and take a timeout with all of the fraternity bashing--I always see you bashing on the Greeks here and on USCHO and I don't know why. We all know that Greeks put the fun in Cornell. Fine. But let's get the other facts straight. 30% of Cornell is Greek so you are offending a large population of people when you hint that someone stupid is someone who is associated with a fraternity. Fraternity members are more likely to donate back to Cornell than non-Greeks. The Greek GPA is higher than the campus wide GPA. Need more? Email me and I'll provide it. Wake up, generalizations of people are so not hot right now.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: jkahn (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 01:02AM
It's happened before. In the '69-'70 season we were playing SLU in the finals of a Christmas tournament at MSG. Dick Bertrand scored a hat trick, and I and another guy who threw a hat got escorted out. The security guard who ushered us out said "maybe where you come from you can do this" to which I responded "I'm from New York." Ironically, my hat never hit the ice - Bertrand caught it in the air while skating back to the bench. It being the 3rd period of a doubleheader, we easily walked right back in the Garden and finished the 3rd period in our seats. I did stop being a Ranger fan though, rooting for Ned's Red Wings and also becoming an Islander fan when they came along (as well as cheering on Dryden's Habs).
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Robb (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 02:21AM
Wow - touchy much? Like it or not, "frat boy" (or in this case, frat-type) is a recognized stereotype, and as such, conveys information from the author (Greg) to the reader (me). Not all members of fraternities are frat boys and now that I think about it, not all frat boys actually belong to a fraternity. The fact is, the proportion of frat boys in fraternities is enough higher than in the general population to make the phrase take on a commonly understood meaning. That's all that language is. Yes, I realize that many of the same arguments could be (and have been) made for truly offensive epithets, but this ain't one of them. Frat boy is a type, just as nerd, jock, stoner, preppie, etc are - using these "labels" is just a shorthand way of conveying much information with one word rather than having to describe the entire collection of traits that make up the type every time. Come back when you have a better victim story to tell.
P.S. I had plenty of fun at Cornell and did not belong to a fraternity.
P.S. I had plenty of fun at Cornell and did not belong to a fraternity.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: atb9 (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 03:44AM
Yeah, very touchy because around the country, and especially at Cornell, we are working hard to eliminate the stereotype. "Frat-boys" will not survive in todays social climate and fraternity men will.
For you to put the fraternity category with stoners and preppies is asinine. Stoners and preppies are not established organizations on this campus. The word frat in it self is derogatory. Just as is the word jock. Ask an athlete if they'd like to be called a jock. Can you see the difference? Can you understand the derogatory nature of the words frat-boy and jock?
This country, and Cornell, has moved away from the archaic 70's way of categorizing people. Cornell is a place of inclusion--not exclusion through stereotypes. Kepler could have conveyed the same message without the stereotype. With just the quote, I knew he was trying to say the supervisor was dumb. Did you not?
Kepler has been using the frat-boy stereotype on a regular basis to put people down--fans (Cornell fans), supervisors, you name it. And I'm getting tired of it. I would like to think that a Cornellian could use language to describe and not short cut and short change through stereotypes and generalizations.
Thanks for listening...and now waiting for Age...
For you to put the fraternity category with stoners and preppies is asinine. Stoners and preppies are not established organizations on this campus. The word frat in it self is derogatory. Just as is the word jock. Ask an athlete if they'd like to be called a jock. Can you see the difference? Can you understand the derogatory nature of the words frat-boy and jock?
This country, and Cornell, has moved away from the archaic 70's way of categorizing people. Cornell is a place of inclusion--not exclusion through stereotypes. Kepler could have conveyed the same message without the stereotype. With just the quote, I knew he was trying to say the supervisor was dumb. Did you not?
Kepler has been using the frat-boy stereotype on a regular basis to put people down--fans (Cornell fans), supervisors, you name it. And I'm getting tired of it. I would like to think that a Cornellian could use language to describe and not short cut and short change through stereotypes and generalizations.
Thanks for listening...and now waiting for Age...
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 04:49AM
Finally: a genuine oppressed minority.
I stand chastened and beg pardon.
I stand chastened and beg pardon.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Bob 2003 (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 10:47AM
We should all think before we speak when it comes to stereotypes like that. Let's all pity the poor, oppressed, frat boy minority, and all the hardships they've had to deal with.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: pat (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 12:12PM
Isn't Kepler a cat?
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Anne 85 (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 01:08PM
Kepler was:
* a cat
* a German astronomer
* Greg's screen name
* a cat
* a German astronomer
* Greg's screen name
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 03:21PM
Bohemian, not German!!!! (I know, he was born in Weil der Stadt, but he was an ethnic Bohemian and I'm claiming him as a proto-Czech, like Mendel.)
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Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Anne 85 (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 07:08PM
Sorry, Greg. The Kepler page doesn't give Johann's nationality, and the dictionary says he was German. I also wasn't clear about astronomer vs physicist....
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: The Greatest Man Alive (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 07:26PM
Let me tell you, the Greeks, we arent what all the stereotypes make us out to be. I was a terrible CS major, and a greasy greasy man. Now I work in Texas. Proof positive you can break the mold.
Aristidis Tsouprous, the greatest man alive
Aristidis Tsouprous, the greatest man alive
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: CowbellGuy (---)
Date: January 19, 2003 09:10PM
Yup, what Ben said. By the way, Ben, I didn't answer the phone when you called because I was in the middle of said lecture.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: January 20, 2003 12:49AM
70% astronomer to 30% astrologer. One of the many reasons why he's interesting -- one foot in the medieval period and one foot in the scientific age, at a time when they bled into each other.
Plus his mom was a witch. That's always a plus.
Plus his mom was a witch. That's always a plus.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: rhovorka (---)
Date: January 20, 2003 02:37AM
Tycho Brahe had a brass nose and died when his bladder exploded.
Although now it is believed that he actually died of mercury poisoning.
He lost his nose in a duel that was caused by an argument over a mathematical formula.
Although now it is believed that he actually died of mercury poisoning.
He lost his nose in a duel that was caused by an argument over a mathematical formula.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: January 20, 2003 02:47AM
Yep, the story goes he had to pee but refused to excuse himself from the table before his host left.
In all other respects he was supposedly a consumate s.o.b., so for him of all people to die of good manners has to go down as one of the top ten ironic deaths of all time.
Brahe was also given his own island as a reward from a wealthy patron, and used to have week-long drinking/eating/various-other-fun-and-games sessions there, making him the only scientist in world history to hold his own orgies. Unless you count Franklin.
Kepler -- who was incredibly straight-laced and prudish -- apparently hated him, but without Brahe's meticulous observations he probably never would have been able to formulate his laws of planetary motion.
In all other respects he was supposedly a consumate s.o.b., so for him of all people to die of good manners has to go down as one of the top ten ironic deaths of all time.
Brahe was also given his own island as a reward from a wealthy patron, and used to have week-long drinking/eating/various-other-fun-and-games sessions there, making him the only scientist in world history to hold his own orgies. Unless you count Franklin.
Kepler -- who was incredibly straight-laced and prudish -- apparently hated him, but without Brahe's meticulous observations he probably never would have been able to formulate his laws of planetary motion.
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Josh '99 (207.10.33.---)
Date: January 20, 2003 08:09AM
Rich Hovorka '96 wrote:
Was that what you wrote about Brahe in your GRE essay?
Tycho Brahe had a brass nose and died when his bladder exploded.
Although now it is believed that he actually died of mercury poisoning.
He lost his nose in a duel that was caused by an argument over a mathematical formula.
Kepler
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---)
Date: January 20, 2003 08:21AM
As I understand it, Tycho's death was also an important development in Astronomy, since it meant Kepler got to see all of the data which he had been jealously guarding.
Re: Kepler
Posted by: Scersk (---)
Date: January 22, 2003 12:17AM
Hmmm... I wonder if we've all watched Sagan's Cosmos...
Just a wild guess...
Just a wild guess...
Re: Age you gotta explain...
Posted by: Greg Berge (---)
Date: January 22, 2003 01:39AM
"I have an S.U.V."
"Sleeeepy time...."
"Sleeeepy time...."
Re: Kepler
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: December 06, 2010 06:24PM
Scersk
Hmmm... I wonder if we've all watched Sagan's Cosmos...
Just a wild guess...
Are you saying that Sagan was poisoned? Radiation induced cancer. The perfect crime.
Re: Kepler
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: December 06, 2010 08:08PM
Roy, you necromancer...Roy 82
Scersk
Hmmm... I wonder if we've all watched Sagan's Cosmos...
Just a wild guess...
Are you saying that Sagan was poisoned? Radiation induced cancer. The perfect crime.
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