Goalie situation this season
Posted by margolism
Goalie situation this season
Posted by: margolism (---.nycmny83.static.covad.net)
Date: August 29, 2012 03:35PM
Just curious if Cornell is planning on going ahead with only two goalies on the roster. Has this happened before? Would they consider tapping into a goalie from the club team to have three on the roster?
Just curious.
Just curious.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Weder (---.atlanta.hp.com)
Date: August 29, 2012 04:32PM
Matt Underhill and Ian Burt were the only goalies on the roster in 98-99.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: August 29, 2012 05:50PM
Brian Cropper and Bob Rule--who was a lacrosse goalie--were the only goalies in 1969-70. Team did OK.Weder
Matt Underhill and Ian Burt were the only goalies on the roster in 98-99.
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Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 29, 2012 05:55PM
Way to set our sights low. Some of us want a little more than that this season.Al DeFlorio
Brian Cropper and Bob Rule--who was a lacrosse goalie--were the only goalies in 1969-70. Team did OK.Weder
Matt Underhill and Ian Burt were the only goalies on the roster in 98-99.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: August 29, 2012 09:52PM
I'm too lazy to pull actual numbers but I'm pretty sure the team has gone with just two goalies on many occasions. Others have posted a couple of examples and I know there are others.margolism
Just curious if Cornell is planning on going ahead with only two goalies on the roster. Has this happened before? Would they consider tapping into a goalie from the club team to have three on the roster?
Just curious.
As for tapping into the club roster, it has happened before. If both of the goalies on the roster stay healthy then the team probably goes with two. If one of them gets hurt I would expect a "call-up" at least as an insurance policy. The last thing you want to see is a defenseman needing to strap on the pads as an emergency goalie.
Checking the memory banks. In '97-98 Pelletier left the team mid summer leaving us with only Jason Elliott on the roster. They got Ian Burt to commit or maybe move up his matriculation but I think Burt only arrived in the spring semester. Nate Hicks was the backup in the fall (and then again when Elliott was out with an injury). I'm pretty sure Hicks was a club goalie. He never saw any ice time.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Robb (---.ks.ok.cox.net)
Date: August 29, 2012 11:52PM
The 3rd goalie in 92 and 93 (Geoff Raynak) lived on my floor. He had a varsity number (#30), but also played on the club team and absolutely knew that he would never see NCAA ice. He did dress for games, but even he said that the other two would both have to lose a limb before he would play.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: cayuga (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: August 30, 2012 07:05AM
I heard yesterday that last year's backup goalies are gone, one to surgery, the other has left Cornell. Any truth to this "rumor"?
If so, has Cornell gone into a season with only one goalie?
If so, has Cornell gone into a season with only one goalie?
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: margolism (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2012 07:57AM
Haven't heard that. I know that the primary backup goalie left Cornell to play pro. Are you saying that Kanji is out with an injury?
If so, then there is no backup right now.
Regardless, given that Kanji is a senior, looks like Cornell will want to recruit one more goalie next year (in addition to the one already listed as a recruit.)
If so, then there is no backup right now.
Regardless, given that Kanji is a senior, looks like Cornell will want to recruit one more goalie next year (in addition to the one already listed as a recruit.)
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2012 05:17PM
If that is true and Kanji is injured, Cornell cannot go forward with only one goaltender because of NCAA Rule 2, Section 3(a) which states that:cayuga
I heard yesterday that last year's backup goalies are gone, one to surgery, the other has left Cornell. Any truth to this "rumor"?
If so, has Cornell gone into a season with only one goalie?
A substitute goalkeeper must be on the bench at the start of the game and shall at all times be fully dressed and equipped and ready to play. Upon entering the game, the substitute goalkeeper shall take his position without delay. A team shall not start a game with less than two goalkeepers.
PENALTY—Forfeiture (score will be recorded as 1-0)
Cornell would need to get another goalie just to start contesting games if Iles is the only goaltender able to be dressed for games as of now.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: blueliner (184.70.85.---)
Date: August 30, 2012 06:14PM
So curious, why would we not bring our 20 year old recruit Gillam up early? We have known about this change since early June..
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Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: jtn27 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: August 30, 2012 06:25PM
Aaron M. Griffin
If that is true and Kanji is injured, Cornell cannot go forward with only one goaltender because of NCAA Rule 2, Section 3(a) which states that:cayuga
I heard yesterday that last year's backup goalies are gone, one to surgery, the other has left Cornell. Any truth to this "rumor"?
If so, has Cornell gone into a season with only one goalie?
A substitute goalkeeper must be on the bench at the start of the game and shall at all times be fully dressed and equipped and ready to play. Upon entering the game, the substitute goalkeeper shall take his position without delay. A team shall not start a game with less than two goalkeepers.
PENALTY—Forfeiture (score will be recorded as 1-0)
Cornell would need to get another goalie just to start contesting games if Iles is the only goaltender able to be dressed for games as of now.
That seems like such an obscure rule because every team would carry 2-3 goalies even if it wasn't on the books. Did you actually read the NCAA rulebook or did you just hear that somewhere else and look up the actual wording now?
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Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2012 06:28PM
I happened to be skimming it when I was searching to find out if Penn State men's ice hockey would be eligible for the NCAA Tournament its first year on the unlikely chance that it could get an at-large bid. So, I read most of the provisions regarding roster requirements too and I happened to remember that clause.jtn27
Aaron M. Griffin
If that is true and Kanji is injured, Cornell cannot go forward with only one goaltender because of NCAA Rule 2, Section 3(a) which states that:cayuga
I heard yesterday that last year's backup goalies are gone, one to surgery, the other has left Cornell. Any truth to this "rumor"?
If so, has Cornell gone into a season with only one goalie?
A substitute goalkeeper must be on the bench at the start of the game and shall at all times be fully dressed and equipped and ready to play. Upon entering the game, the substitute goalkeeper shall take his position without delay. A team shall not start a game with less than two goalkeepers.
PENALTY—Forfeiture (score will be recorded as 1-0)
Cornell would need to get another goalie just to start contesting games if Iles is the only goaltender able to be dressed for games as of now.
That seems like such an obscure rule because every team would carry 2-3 goalies even if it wasn't on the books. Did you actually read the NCAA rulebook or did you just hear that somewhere else and look up the actual wording now?
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Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: margolism (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2012 08:16PM
Could Cornell conceivably dress a not-likely-to-play F or D as a goalie, or does the dressed player have to be listed on the team roster as a goalie?
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: August 30, 2012 11:51PM
At the start of the game you have to declare your players and goalkeepers.margolism
Could Cornell conceivably dress a not-likely-to-play F or D as a goalie, or does the dressed player have to be listed on the team roster as a goalie?
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: August 31, 2012 09:56AM
I'll bet a lot of these guys have at least played G in pick-up games, the way great athletes in high school have all tried their hand at pitching.David Harding
At the start of the game you have to declare your players and goalkeepers.margolism
Could Cornell conceivably dress a not-likely-to-play F or D as a goalie, or does the dressed player have to be listed on the team roster as a goalie?
Not what you'd want to wheel out their regularly, but enough to be barely minimally compliant.
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: jtn27 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: August 31, 2012 02:35PM
Trotsky
I'll bet a lot of these guys have at least played G in pick-up games, the way great athletes in high school have all tried their hand at pitching.David Harding
At the start of the game you have to declare your players and goalkeepers.margolism
Could Cornell conceivably dress a not-likely-to-play F or D as a goalie, or does the dressed player have to be listed on the team roster as a goalie?
Not what you'd want to wheel out their regularly, but enough to be barely minimally compliant.
I highly doubt it will come to that. If we're really a goalie short, I'm sure Schaefer will find one somewhere, whether it be calling up a recruit early or using a club goalie.
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Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: August 31, 2012 03:00PM
Wow! Goalie difficulties AND a new coach.jtn27
Trotsky
I'll bet a lot of these guys have at least played G in pick-up games, the way great athletes in high school have all tried their hand at pitching.David Harding
At the start of the game you have to declare your players and goalkeepers.margolism
Could Cornell conceivably dress a not-likely-to-play F or D as a goalie, or does the dressed player have to be listed on the team roster as a goalie?
Not what you'd want to wheel out their regularly, but enough to be barely minimally compliant.
I highly doubt it will come to that. If we're really a goalie short, I'm sure Schaefer will find one somewhere, whether it be calling up a recruit early or using a club goalie.
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2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Re: Goalie situation this season
Posted by: jtn27 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: August 31, 2012 04:09PM
Aaron M. Griffin
Wow! Goalie difficulties AND a new coach.jtn27
Trotsky
I'll bet a lot of these guys have at least played G in pick-up games, the way great athletes in high school have all tried their hand at pitching.David Harding
At the start of the game you have to declare your players and goalkeepers.margolism
Could Cornell conceivably dress a not-likely-to-play F or D as a goalie, or does the dressed player have to be listed on the team roster as a goalie?
Not what you'd want to wheel out their regularly, but enough to be barely minimally compliant.
I highly doubt it will come to that. If we're really a goalie short, I'm sure Schaefer will find one somewhere, whether it be calling up a recruit early or using a club goalie.
That's what I get for not referring to the "speling" guide.
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