North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by Oat
North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Oat (---.c3-0.avec-ubr11.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com)
Date: November 10, 2008 09:05PM
North Dakota hockey team is a bunch of no good street trash. I have always hated them.
Here are 5 different examples:
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These idiots need to go back to elementary school and learn some manners. They should start at 3rd grade.
In a few weeks When we sweep them, there is going to be one more ugly youtube video.
Here are 5 different examples:
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These idiots need to go back to elementary school and learn some manners. They should start at 3rd grade.
In a few weeks When we sweep them, there is going to be one more ugly youtube video.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2008 11:18AM by Oat.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: ben03 (---.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: November 10, 2008 11:32PM
i agree with you regarding their dirty play but think the clips you posted say more about the ineptitude of the WCHA officials and the fact that they condone this thug'ish play and don't/won’t punish it as the rules state they should.
here's to hoping UND doesn't resort to these tactics in a few weeks ... if only b/c the dreaded Don Adam might just be on the ice.
here's to hoping UND doesn't resort to these tactics in a few weeks ... if only b/c the dreaded Don Adam might just be on the ice.
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Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: oceanst41 (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: November 11, 2008 02:29PM
Well in "fairness" to the referee he did appear to have the original charge called for a penalty before all hell broke loose in the first video. My personal favorite part of that is when the the NoDak player that came out of the corner with the puck then took exception to a little chop from Wisconsin and threw a haymaker rather than continue playing.
In the end it appears 10 players (5 a side) each got 2 for roughing and a 10 min misconduct, with Kaip (who threw the first check) getting an extra 2 for roughing.
So the refs dropped the ball by only issuing 10 min misconducts, because everyone of these players was able to take the ice the next weekend (this was the Sat. night game).
The fights against Denver, Mankato, and Minnesota seem to have been handled a little more reasonably penalty wise. In each of those cases, 5 for fighting and game DQs were handed out to both sides.
However, three of those fights happened last season with the Sioux going 2-0-1 in those games, so I'm not saying they aren't dirty at times.
In the end it appears 10 players (5 a side) each got 2 for roughing and a 10 min misconduct, with Kaip (who threw the first check) getting an extra 2 for roughing.
So the refs dropped the ball by only issuing 10 min misconducts, because everyone of these players was able to take the ice the next weekend (this was the Sat. night game).
The fights against Denver, Mankato, and Minnesota seem to have been handled a little more reasonably penalty wise. In each of those cases, 5 for fighting and game DQs were handed out to both sides.
However, three of those fights happened last season with the Sioux going 2-0-1 in those games, so I'm not saying they aren't dirty at times.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: Jordan 04 (155.72.24.---)
Date: November 11, 2008 02:37PM
Weak. No goalie fights.
Safety goons.
Safety goons.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: Oat (155.201.35.---)
Date: November 11, 2008 02:52PM
They were all afraid of Scrivens that's why. Everyone knows Ben Scrivens would floor these clowns in two seconds in any fight.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: JDeafv (---.mae.cornell.edu)
Date: November 11, 2008 04:28PM
Have you seen the skinny kid under all the pads?Oat
They were all afraid of Scrivens that's why.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: Oat (155.201.35.---)
Date: November 24, 2008 04:32PM
ben03
i agree with you regarding their dirty play but think the clips you posted say more about the ineptitude of the WCHA officials and the fact that they condone this thug'ish play and don't/won’t punish it as the rules state they should.
here's to hoping UND doesn't resort to these tactics in a few weeks ... if only b/c the dreaded Don Adam might just be on the ice.
I found this article. May be the program isn't that bad after all. Maybe it's just the coach (and a bit of the trickle-down effect). We will see.
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2008 04:35PM by Oat.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: November 24, 2008 04:42PM
Heh. "Hakstol and abusive."Oatben03
i agree with you regarding their dirty play but think the clips you posted say more about the ineptitude of the WCHA officials and the fact that they condone this thug'ish play and don't/won’t punish it as the rules state they should.
here's to hoping UND doesn't resort to these tactics in a few weeks ... if only b/c the dreaded Don Adam might just be on the ice.
I found this article. May be the program isn't that bad after all. Maybe it's just the coach (and a bit of the trickle-down effect). We will see.
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: BCrespi (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 24, 2008 05:01PM
Oatben03
i agree with you regarding their dirty play but think the clips you posted say more about the ineptitude of the WCHA officials and the fact that they condone this thug'ish play and don't/won’t punish it as the rules state they should.
here's to hoping UND doesn't resort to these tactics in a few weeks ... if only b/c the dreaded Don Adam might just be on the ice.
I found this article. May be the program isn't that bad after all. Maybe it's just the coach (and a bit of the trickle-down effect). We will see.
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Well, I would say that the coach is the main agent of "the program", but I suppose I understand your point. Either way, let's just hope we take the fight out of the Sioux this weekend with our play.
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Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY thugs!!
Posted by: nr53 (---.cisco.com)
Date: November 24, 2008 05:09PM
I was fairly entertained reading the comments to the article, good 'ol Sioux/Gopher spat
North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: lynah80 (---.MED.UPENN.EDU)
Date: November 24, 2008 10:26PM
Penalties/minutes
Cornell 35/70 6 games
N Dakota 103/217 12 games
Cornell will be on the PP a lot this weekend.
Cornell 35/70 6 games
N Dakota 103/217 12 games
Cornell will be on the PP a lot this weekend.
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: November 24, 2008 10:44PM
lynah80
Penalties/minutes
Cornell 35/70 6 games
N Dakota 103/217 12 games
Cornell will be on the PP a lot this weekend.
That could depend on which conference's refs are calling the game.
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Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Goon (---.cbp.dhs.gov)
Date: November 25, 2008 10:00AM
Cornell might or might not be on the PP a lot this weekend. The game will be called by WCHA officials so your team is going to have to make adjustments to WCHA style officiating. You never know the Big Red might find themselves killing a lot of penalties this weekend as well. In 10 league games UND has taken more penalties than their opponent only once.
Just for the record UND is not a team full of goons is actually taking less penalties for after the whistle altercations than last season, however, your team better be ready to hit there are a few guys Malone, Blood, Hextall that are going to be flying around finishing checks.
Just for the record UND is not a team full of goons is actually taking less penalties for after the whistle altercations than last season, however, your team better be ready to hit there are a few guys Malone, Blood, Hextall that are going to be flying around finishing checks.
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: oceanst41 (---.crh.noaa.gov)
Date: November 25, 2008 10:52AM
Beeeejlynah80
Penalties/minutes
Cornell 35/70 6 games
N Dakota 103/217 12 games
Cornell will be on the PP a lot this weekend.
That could depend on which conference's refs are calling the game.
UND has played 10 conference games, with opponents taking 250 PIM vs. 195 PIM for UND. For the full schedule they have 94 PP chances vs. 72 PK attempts as well.
Cornell on the other hand has 6 conference (and total) games, taking 70 PIM of their own to their opponents 103 PIM. As well as 39 PP chances to 30 PK attempts.
When you look at it, both teams get 1.3 PP to every penalty they must kill. Just by looking at this, it seems the disparity in PIM comes from more matching penalties from the WCHA officials.
Either way, I'm looking forward to some hard hitting, clean checking games. I'm fine with Cornell's special teams, but I'd rather that not be the focus of the games, for either team. And Cornell will have their share of skaters ready to finish their checks.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2008 10:53AM by oceanst41.
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 11:00AM
Never mind UND's guys; if Cornell doesn't come out ready to hit, they're going to have to face the wrath of their own coach!Goon
Just for the record UND is not a team full of goons is actually taking less penalties for after the whistle altercations than last season, however, your team better be ready to hit there are a few guys Malone, Blood, Hextall that are going to be flying around finishing checks.
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Goon (---.cbp.dhs.gov)
Date: November 25, 2008 11:13AM
One other problem with the WCHA is that the league office FINALLY decided to call the games a little tighter, last year they let a lot of hooking, obstruction and holding go this year they haven't. In the past the WCHA had become the Western Obstruction league.
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Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: November 25, 2008 11:21AM
Not really a problem.Goon
your team better be ready to hit
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: dragonfan (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 25, 2008 12:30PM
I cant think of one guy on our team that would not finish a hit,I think thats just there style of game.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: JDeafv (---.mae.cornell.edu)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:19PM
Is fighting allowed in the WCHA or is it not a 1-game suspension? I am pretty shocked with the number of fights involving UND players. In the 10 years I've been watching Cornell hockey, I can only think of 1.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:24PM
JDeafv
In the 10 years I've been watching Cornell hockey, I can only think of 1.
In two seconds I can think of Nickerson/Gleed '04 and Colgate/Cornell '00. I'm sure there have been others even if you don't include Red/White a few years ago.
I also have a clear memory of NoDak getting into it at Yale in November '02. Chris Higgins picked up a DQ that made him sit at Lynah and the NoDak radio guy was arguing with the fans at Ingalls on the air.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: oceanst41 (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:27PM
Chris '03JDeafv
In the 10 years I've been watching Cornell hockey, I can only think of 1.
In two seconds I can think of Nickerson/Gleed '04 and Colgate/Cornell '00. I'm sure there have been others even if you don't include Red/White a few years ago.
I also have a clear memory of NoDak getting into it at Yale in November '02. Chris Higgins picked up a DQ that made him sit at Lynah and the NoDak radio guy was arguing with the fans at Ingalls on the air.
Do you mean Nickerson/Varteressian?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2008 03:57PM by oceanst41.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:29PM
Also the Union brawl in 1998.oceanst41Chris '03JDeafv
In the 10 years I've been watching Cornell hockey, I can only think of 1.
In two seconds I can think of Nickerson/Gleed '04 and Colgate/Cornell '00. I'm sure there have been others even if you don't include Red/White a few years ago.
I also have a clear memory of NoDak getting into it at Yale in November '02. Chris Higgins picked up a DQ that made him sit at Lynah and the NoDak radio guy was arguing with the fans at Ingalls on the air.
Do you mean Nickerson/Varteresian?
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:31PM
Pretty good flame war going on on the UND-Cornell thread at USCHO.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: JDeafv (---.mae.cornell.edu)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:33PM
Josh '99
Also the Union brawl in 1998.
Before my time. This is my 10th year, first started watching in 1999-2000.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:35PM
oceanst41Chris '03JDeafv
In the 10 years I've been watching Cornell hockey, I can only think of 1.
In two seconds I can think of Nickerson/Gleed '04 and Colgate/Cornell '00. I'm sure there have been others even if you don't include Red/White a few years ago.
I also have a clear memory of NoDak getting into it at Yale in November '02. Chris Higgins picked up a DQ that made him sit at Lynah and the NoDak radio guy was arguing with the fans at Ingalls on the air.
Do you mean Nickerson/Varteresian?
Yes.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: JDeafv (---.mae.cornell.edu)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:36PM
oceanst41
Do you mean Nickerson/Varteresian?
I didn't want to attempt to spell Varteresian and was too lazy to look it up, but that's the only one I remember.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: JDeafv (---.mae.cornell.edu)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:44PM
TimV
Pretty good flame war going on on the UND-Cornell thread at USCHO.
That thread gets good at the end of page 3.
I was trying to be nice over at siouxsports.com
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: oceanst41 (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:45PM
JDeafvoceanst41
Do you mean Nickerson/Varteressian?
I didn't want to attempt to spell Varteressian and was too lazy to look it up, but that's the only one I remember.
I thought about that the second I hit "post" - and sure enough it's a double s.
So fixed our posts.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.innovestsystems.com)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:45PM
Cornell and Colgate got into it at the end of the game @ lynah in 2004.
the boxscore isn't available, but the USCHO recaplists the 3 game DQ's. 1 cornell and 2 colgate
the boxscore isn't available, but the USCHO recaplists the 3 game DQ's. 1 cornell and 2 colgate
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Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Jordan 04 (155.72.24.---)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:49PM
It's S-V-O-B-O-D-A, Varteressian, Varteressian.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Oat (155.201.35.---)
Date: November 25, 2008 03:58PM
The Nickerson/Varteresian incident wasn't really a fight. It was more a public beating.
Anyway, Varteresian was just an exception on the Cornell roster that year. It really was just a case of Varteresian being Varteresian and it was hardly a representation of the entire Cornell team.
NoDak, however, has a complete full team of uncontrollable inmates every year. Look at all those videos. Full-scale brawls anywhere, anytime, with anyone.
Anyway, Varteresian was just an exception on the Cornell roster that year. It really was just a case of Varteresian being Varteresian and it was hardly a representation of the entire Cornell team.
NoDak, however, has a complete full team of uncontrollable inmates every year. Look at all those videos. Full-scale brawls anywhere, anytime, with anyone.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: nr53 (---.cisco.com)
Date: November 25, 2008 04:03PM
I'm tempted to create an account just to join in on the fun...TimV
Pretty good flame war going on on the UND-Cornell thread at USCHO.
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 04:04PM
Jordan 04
It's S-V-O-B-O-D-A, Varteressian, Varteressian.
S-V-O-B-O-D-A, Roeszler, Roeszler just doesn't work as well.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 04:05PM
I'm not saying you should've remembered it, I'm just saying it happened.JDeafvJosh '99
Also the Union brawl in 1998.
Before my time. This is my 10th year, first started watching in 1999-2000.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 04:14PM
Really Jon? I think you need to check the spelling guide.
Top-line:
Barlow-Nash-Greening: Riley Nash was the highly recruited prospect who allegedly was down to North Dakota and Cornell when he went with Cornell to play with his older brother Brendan.
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Goon (---.cbp.dhs.gov)
Date: November 25, 2008 04:21PM
JDeafv
Is fighting allowed in the WCHA or is it not a 1-game suspension? I am pretty shocked with the number of fights involving UND players. In the 10 years I've been watching Cornell hockey, I can only think of 1.
The first fight you get into the players recieve a game DQ, you are kicked out of that game and the next one, after each fight it goes up second fight that game and the next to...
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Oat (155.201.35.---)
Date: November 25, 2008 04:23PM
nr53
I'm tempted to create an account just to join in on the fun...
Haha, I am about to submit the password reminder, so I can login and participate.
And hey!! Our Elynah isn't a pathetic message board like they said
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: JDeafv (---.mae.cornell.edu)
Date: November 25, 2008 06:03PM
Josh '99Really Jon? I think you need to check the spelling guide.
Top-line:
Barlow-Nash-Greening: Riley Nash was the highly recruited prospect who allegedly was down to North Dakota and Cornell when he went with Cornell to play with his older brother Brendan.
You are right, I should be using the eLynah spelling guide while posting on siouxsports ...
Re: North Dakota Sioux are DIRTY!! Why are we going to their house?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: November 25, 2008 06:44PM
You mean you don't have a browser tab open to the spelling guide at all times, just in case you find yourself needing to type the word "syphilis"?JDeafvJosh '99Really Jon? I think you need to check the spelling guide.
Top-line:
Barlow-Nash-Greening: Riley Nash was the highly recruited prospect who allegedly was down to North Dakota and Cornell when he went with Cornell to play with his older brother Brendan.
You are right, I should be using the eLynah spelling guide while posting on siouxsports ...
Re: North Dakota penalties 2008-2009
Posted by: Willy '06 (38.98.164.---)
Date: November 26, 2008 09:50AM
I remember Hornby's making a UVM player bleed. I think it was during the '02-'03 season.
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