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Has this ever happened?

Posted by RichH 
Has this ever happened?
Posted by: RichH (76.28.11.---)
Date: January 25, 2008 10:24PM

A staggering stat found me tonight in the national statistics. Ranking dead last,

Power Play:                  Totals    SHA       PCT
59 Rensselaer                8/124      9       6.5

After getting one PPG and one SHA tonight vs. Clarkson. This had to have happened before, right? Maybe to a start-up team in one of the minor conferences, or one of the whipping boys of the WCHA? Has any team given up more short-handed goals in a season than they have scored on the power-play??

Good trivia.
 
Re: Has this ever happened?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2008 10:45PM

According to the 1987 edition of the Cornell Hockey Record Book, ed. Arthur Mintz, in 1961-62, on only 29 chances for the season, Cornell scored 5 PPG and gave up 10 SHG. Cornell was 20-8 that year, so I have to assume that's a typo.

In 1963-64, on 44 opponent chances, Cornell scored 5 SHG and gave up 5 PPG.

As a measure of the magnitude of what RPI may be on the way to achieving, the 1969-70 undefeated team was outscored 17-1 over the course of the season when shorthanded.
 
Re: Has this ever happened?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2008 11:26PM

Trotsky
According to the 1987 edition of the Cornell Hockey Record Book, ed. Arthur Mintz, in 1961-62, on only 29 chances for the season, Cornell scored 5 PPG and gave up 10 SHG. Cornell was 20-8 that year, so I have to assume that's a typo.
According to the 2007-08 press guide--and my memory, having watched that team--the 1961-62 team was 13-5.

 
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Re: Has this ever happened?
Posted by: BillCharlton (76.250.250.---)
Date: January 25, 2008 11:55PM

Sadly, RPI would be better off if they could decline their opponents' penalties. Hockey fans usually rejoice when their team gets a PP chance. Not so this year at RPI. I imagine that their fans say, "Oh no, not again," whenever they go on a PP. I wonder if their players have the same feeling of impending doom?
 
Re: Has this ever happened?
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 26, 2008 06:25AM

Trotsky
According to the 1987 edition of the Cornell Hockey Record Book, ed. Arthur Mintz, in 1961-62, on only 29 chances for the season, Cornell scored 5 PPG and gave up 10 SHG.

No, Cornell scored 10 shorthanded goals. Records from that season are fragmentary and inconsistent; for example, many games do not have records of individual penalties. What records there are were first pieced together by Dan Connolly in 1972, later updated by Bud Hall from newspaper accounts and god knows what else, then further investigated by me during the research for the Record Book. Many of the inconsistencies were resolved, but much information is still missing (thus the low number of 29 PP opportunities over 18 games).

An example of inconsistency: the end-of-season summary published by SID Ben Mintz in 1962 doesn't list shorthanded goals at all. Connolly's work shows 3 SHG for that season. Hall's season summary shows 5, but the individual game summaries he put together show 10. Only 5 of the goals are corroborated by actual penalty records; the others are credited based on newspaper accounts. Four of them came in one game against Ohio University.
 
Re: Has this ever happened?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 26, 2008 07:02AM

ACM
No, Cornell scored 10 shorthanded goals.

In that case, the 58-59 team may have turned the trick, outscored 6-5 on their PP, but records from then are still suspect.

The 69-70 team was only outscored 17-8 when shorthanded, not bad at all, and outscored their opponents 44-1 on PP!.
 
Re: Has this ever happened?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 26, 2008 07:05AM

Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
According to the 1987 edition of the Cornell Hockey Record Book, ed. Arthur Mintz, in 1961-62, on only 29 chances for the season, Cornell scored 5 PPG and gave up 10 SHG. Cornell was 20-8 that year, so I have to assume that's a typo.
According to the 2007-08 press guide--and my memory, having watched that team--the 1961-62 team was 13-5.
Not if you count the Ivy games twice. ;)
 

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