Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th

October 1, 2007

Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (13) 24-14-5 545 6
2 Boston College ( 3) 29-12-1 519 4
3 Michigan State (11) 26-13-3 513 10
4 Miami ( 1) 24-14-4 471 13
5 Minnesota ( 1) 31-10-3 470 2
6 New Hampshire 26-11-2 454 5
7 Clarkson 25- 9-5 396 3
8 Notre Dame 32- 7-3 358 1
9 Boston University 20-10-9 332 9
10 Michigan 26-14-1 296 8
11 Colorado College 18-17-4 277 20
12 Maine 23-15-2 234 14
13 Denver 21-15-4 232 15
14 Quinnipiac 21-14-5 196 16
15 Wisconsin 19-18-4 181 17
16 St. Lawrence 23-14-2 159 11
17 St. Cloud State 22-11-7 90 NR
18 Cornell 14-13-4 85 NR
19 Ohio State 15-17-5 51 NR
20 Vermont 18-16-5 46 NR
Others Receiving Votes: Massachusetts 45, Michigan Tech 38, RIT 18, Dartmouth 17, Nebraska-Omaha 16, Bemidji State 13, Harvard 11, Niagara 7, Air Force 6, Providence 5, Western Michigan 5, Rensselaer 2, Colgate 1, Robert Morris 1

We didn't receive any votes in the USA Today poll.

[www.usatoday.com]

Clarkson also 7th
BU also 9th
Quinnipiac at 15
Four ECACH teams also received votes.

18 seems about right

i'll take the over (better)

Not that the usatoday poll is a big deal, or that any poll is, but we're behind RIT? Ouch.

Dafatone
Not that the usatoday poll is a big deal, or that any poll is, but we're behind RIT? Ouch.

Pollers feel guilty if they don't have a token AHA vote.

Following the Cornell tradition of moving up after not playing, we get 10 votes this week and check in at 17.

[www.usatoday.com]

ebilmes
Following the Cornell tradition of moving up after not playing, we get 10 votes this week and check in at 17.

[www.usatoday.com]

Changing it up a bit and moving down in the USCHO poll:

1	North Dakota	(46)	1-0-0	977	1
2	Miami	( 3)	2-0-0	893	4
3	Minnesota		2-0-0	879	5
4	Boston College		1-1-0	757	2
5	Denver		2-0-0	676	13
6	Michigan		1-1-0	653	10
7	Clarkson		2-1-0	647	7
8	New Hampshire		0-0-0	643	6
9	Michigan State		0-1-0	628	3
10	Colorado College		0-0-0	504	11
11	Notre Dame		1-1-0	480	8
12	Ohio State		2-0-0	411	19
13	Wisconsin		1-1-0	361	15
14	Quinnipiac		0-0-0	290	14
15	St. Lawrence		2-1-0	283	16
16	St. Cloud State		1-0-1	229	17
17	Maine		0-2-0	223	12
18	Boston University		0-1-1	216	9
19	Cornell		0-0-0	136	18
20	Massachusetts		1-1-0	109	NR
Others Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 64, Colgate 53, Michigan Tech 26, Bemidji State 24, Nebraska-Omaha 24, Vermont 17, Dartmouth 16, Union 16, Minnesota-Duluth 11, RIT 11, Alaska-Anchorage 9, Western Michigan 8, Air Force 6, Rensselaer 6, Harvard 3, Northern Michigan 1

But what about our position in the KRACH?

Also moved down this week in USA Today: [www.usatoday.com]

Others receiving votes: University of Maine, 21; St. Cloud State University, 16; Boston University, 14; Colgate University, 14; (T-20) Cornell University, 7; Robert Morris University, 7; U.S. Air Force Academy, 2; University of Minnesota Duluth, 1.

Voters didn't like Riley Nash's performance in the Red-White game.

dietlbomb
But what about our position in the KRACH?

Aw, shuddap before I Krach you upside the head.

dietlbomb
But what about our position in the KRACH?

Ask a stupid question...

jtwcornell91

dietlbomb
But what about our position in the KRACH?

Ask a stupid question...

Thanks, I needed that.

My head asplode.

Trotsky
My head asplode.

As did the right edge of this page.

jtwcornell91

dietlbomb
But what about our position in the KRACH?

Ask a stupid question...

Woohoo! Top right corner!

CHN picks us 4th in their ECAC Preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Back up to 18th this week: [www.uscho.com]

At least we sort of scored a lot of goals in the interim, this time.

Posts like this make me wonder why CowbellGuy won't move the menu bar back to the left.

Dafatone
Not that the usatoday poll is a big deal, or that any poll is, but we're behind RIT? Ouch.

Hmm...

It looks a little less silly now, with only Harvard not having played yet. (Although having lost our only game gives us an awful RRWP!)



In general, the end of October tends to be an interesting time for proto-KRACH, since the groups have not yet collapsed into one, but there are enough connections that they're no longer trivial.

JTW,

One argument against having more schools playing D-I hockey is that it would make your abbrevations even harder to figure out without a list.

jtwcornell91
It looks a little less silly now, with only Harvard not having played yet.

You know, for the amount of pissing and moaning Harvard does regarding having to play a weekend of games before Mondays at the Beanpot, they sure do start playing actual games pretty late. One would think that they could get a few games squeezed in before some schools hit 10 games played instead of making a big production of it in the Spring.

RichH

jtwcornell91
It looks a little less silly now, with only Harvard not having played yet.

You know, for the amount of pissing and moaning Harvard does regarding having to play a weekend of games before Mondays at the Beanpot, they sure do start playing actual games pretty late. One would think that they could get a few games squeezed in before some schools hit 10 games played instead of making a big production of it in the Spring.

That's a bit of a misnomer - they don't play "a weekend of games" before Beanpot Mondays, almost always only one game.

Josh '99
That's a bit of a misnomer - they don't play "a weekend of games" before Beanpot Mondays, almost always only one game.

Well, that's my point. This arrangement is the result the league has come up with to placate H after all the moaning they did when they did play 2 games prior to the Beanpot Mondays. They now play one game the weekend prior to each Beanpot game and have moved the opposite traveling partner to a weird weekday game. This year's example: Harvard plays at Yale on Wed. 11/28 and at RPI on Tues. 12/4 to accomodate the singlet pre-Beanpot weekend.

How fair is it to ask Yale and RPI to basically lose a weekend game and the revenue associated with a weekend date vs. a weekday date? I don't know why Harvard isn't playing their traveling partner (Dartmouth) once on both Beanpot weekends, if it's a requirement to have two single-game weekends. As it stands now, they could've easily had the Brown-Yale roadtrip in late October, move the 12/1 and 1/26 games with Dartmouth to the vacated beanpot weekends, which leaves either week free for Union-RPI and a free weekend to take on a NC opponent.

Obviously, there are other dominoes that fall in terms of NC scheduling with all the affected teams, but if you set the ECAC schedule first and then coaches call each other filling in slots, I'm sure you could easily accomodate this league schedule that actually makes sense and maximizes revenues and attendance.

Okay, now it's just depressing: