1/31: Cornell 1 Colgate 2, final

Penalty on Varteressian just 1:50 in.

Cornell is missing Bitz and O'Byrne for DQs and Vesce, Cam Abbott, Carefoot, Cook for injuries.

Pajerski and McLeod both playing. Red with just 10 F's.



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Well, they killed it. Now let's score on safety-sieve.

Pajerski helps with the first kill (successfully)! Looks like it's amateur night for the Red -- good luck, guys.

Wallace!!!

14:48 to go in the first. This game reminds me of Eddie Skazyk's debut at Colgate, when half the team was sick with mono.

WALLACE! 1-0 Cornell!

1 5:38 Cor Wallace 1 (McCutcheon 3)

The radio just said Vesce may be out for a while

I heard he has been playing injured for the past 6 weeks.

More non-support of hockey at Union -- the radio broadcast of their game was preempted tonight by a Super Bowl special.

8:21 to go in the first. Or -- 48:21 to go in regulation. In the pregame, Mike Schafer said he wanted "to play the most boring 1-0 game in the history of Starr Rink tonight."

Justin Nachod got turned away at Colgate...guess it really is a sellout

1 15:23 Col Mitchell (J. Smyth)

Colgate scores by hooking, according to Adam Wodon.

Adam opines that the goal came off an uncalled hook against Colgate.

Anyone know what's up with Salmela?

Does anyone have any thoughts/help on getting the video working from those mac prejudice folks at i2Sports?



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Salmela is sitting on ther bench, albeit with pain. He has no playing time yet.

1-1 after one.



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Vesce is out with a mysteru muscle pull that has been affecting him for weeks. He may be out for "several weeks." Ut oh.

Game underway. Colgate had the shot advantage 10-4 in the first period.

Hit to the head penalty on Gate -- 15:42 to go in the second, Cornell pp. 1 for 32.

PP killed (1x33) and now a Gate pp.

Even strength. No complaints on the kill.

According to the shot clock, Cornell has 5 SOG at the halfway mark.

Another Colgate pp coming up. I do not like the way this is going.

Greg Berge '85 wrote:
Another Colgate pp coming up. I do not like the way this is going.

Hanging on by fingertips. Really a makeshift team tonight.

Colgate gets an even-up penalty so Cornell will have a brief pp coming up. I don't think we're allowed to decline it.

2 13:25 Col Doyle (Wilson)

"Cornell laundry isn't better by accident. They're the best on purpose."

What does that mean?

I was thinking the same thing last night. I guess its good that quality service is more than just dumb luck

"Cornell's powerplay isn't better by accident. They're..."

Skip it.

2-1, end of 2nd.



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Unofficially 6 SOG for the Red through 2 periods.

My bad, we have 7.

Three more, and they'll average one per forward dressed!

As unpleasant as the Cornell lockerroom probably is about now, it can't hold a candle to Dartmouth's, as Bob Gaudet attempts to politely ascertain why they are down 4-0 to Union.

My bad, Union scored again before the break. 5-0. And in Hanover.

What an incredible turn of events since the game at Lynah East.

At least some good news for the night

Cornell going on their 4th pp with 15:42 to go in the 3rd.

Knoepfli-Hynes-Pegs-Moulson-Gleed on the first unit.

Glover-Wallace-Iggy-McCutcheon-Chris Abbott the second unit.

Zero SOG on that pp. I don't think we ever had possession in the Colgate end.

OT: Men's Basketball (Final): Cornell 68 Dartmouth 62

Cornell off to a 4-0 start in the Ivy League

Tom Pasniewski '98 wrote:
Cornell off to a 4-0 start in the Ivy League

The three teams they've beaten have won a combined 10 or 12 games, I think. Things get tougher next weekend at Brown and Yale. Still, shouldn't look a winning horse in the mouth, or something like that.

7:10 to go, up to 8 SOG

I'll definitely take the 4-0 start. Cornell was 4-10 in the Ivies last year and that was their best record in 5 years.

They haven't finished over .500 in 11 seasons.

And the basketball team surpasses the hockey team in wins.

4x4 with 2:15 to go.

1:29 to go.

Schafer timeout.

McKee pulled.

Penalty to Doyle Colgate. McKee back in. 1:20 to go, 4x3.

McKee out briefly for 5x3, but Cornell offsides.

1:00 to go, McKee out again.

Cann huge save on Knoepfli. Face in the Colgate end.

:30.

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shit.



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Cann stones Pegs. :08.

Game ends. 2-1.

Greg - you're posting, at least 10 seconds before I'm hearing. listening to Colgate feed.

0 point weekend.

But thanks for the updates as usual Greg. Unfortunately, a weekend we will forget and move on to.....Dartmouth....because we have such luck at Thompson Arena. But, hey if Union can do it

I guess Adam wanted to get it over with.

I'm guessing Coach Schafer is going to have all his players doing stair climbing this week. Not a very inspiring weekend, despite McKee's all-too-frequent incredible saves: the defense seemed to be okay for the most part, but the offense didn't show up. I guess that's understandable considering how many forwards are injured, but excuses don't win games. These guys are going to be The Team(TM) for several weeks, so working on the forecheck and odd-man rushes shouldn't wait until the starting lineup is intact.

Watched the game on the web, and I think they'll all be stair-climbing. McKee gave up lots of rebounds, and on the game-winner he didn't come across the crease fast enough on a regular back-door play.

He stopped a lot of shots, but 20-something shots isn't that many.

Union had the benefit of John Murphy reffing. PIM's were 31-0 by the 7 minute mark of the 2nd. Murphy decided to call 3 minors, 1 major, 1 game misconduct, and 1 10-min misconduct on Dartmouth before he saw a single infraction by Union. Oh, and 29 of those 31 PIM's came in an 8 minute span. Even the asst refs got in on the action, calling penalties on things that Murphy had to have seen but didn't blow the whistle on.

What a joke. I'm betting the ECAC gets another complaint from a head coach, though Gaudet probably won't go public with it like Schafer did.

let me say that i thought the overall play by cornell was bad at some points earlier in the season...but 2nite was just aweful. VERY out of sync, couldnt get out of their own zone, couldnt get out of the neutral zone, couldnt get shots on net. defense was not horrible but both goals were due to neutral zone turnovers by players attempting to skate instead of pass thru the neutral zone. mckee was solid as usual and i do not think that the game winner was a routine cross the ice pass. he has the shooter on that play, the D has the other man. 'gate was quicker to the puck, forechecked very well and played the trap very well. the way to beat cornell this year seems to be to run the trap. cornell did have key players out...hansen sucks. he called a better game but still called a bad game.

i hate going to starr. they oversold gen admission tix so there was no place to sit. then we had the fratholes come over and stand on the stairs and grab one of the female band members - and of course the security did nothing. the fans did show up for gate this year, but where were they last year? oh yeah, the sucked last year so the fans didnt show up. the physical threats are getting old. oh and pay for some damn snow removal, colgate.

Cornell, PLEASE show up and play next weekend. Give me some solid 6 periods on the long road trip. play like you are capable of playing.

[q]i hate going to starr. they oversold gen admission tix so there was no place to sit. then we had the fratholes come over and stand on the stairs and grab one of the female band members - and of course the security did nothing.[/q]

In all fairness security did the best they could considering the amount of people. I alerted them to the problem, and after kicking one person out, he warned the guy who had grabbed the band member. That guy then left on his own, probably because he was only interested in harassment.

Something positive....

I was extremely pleased with our fans tonight (except for that same guy from section A I mentioned in another post who yells random things.... though today the fans reacted with "That guy sucks!".... glad I'm not the only one who thinks so). They had something to say for everything the Colgate fans could come up with. Cheers were inventive, witty, and highly variable. LGR went on for a lot longer and kept a steady beat.

Now if only we could get the Lynah student section to be that organized....

Section A Banshee wrote:

Cheers were inventive, witty, and highly variable. LGR went on for a lot longer and kept a steady beat.

Now if only we could get the Lynah student section to be that organized....

You have to understand, the people who make the road trip are going to be composed mostly of good fans, hardcore fans, those who know the cheers and know how to keep things going. It'd be great if we could get 1500 students at Lynah doing the same thing week in and week out, but after what I've seen so far this year, I have very little faith in this particular group of students on the whole. Nevertheless, I was there tonight and I agree with you, I thought we did a damn good job, compared to all of Colgate's facetimer fans. (I know I'm just invoking the 'wrath' of Facetimer by saying that, but seriously, almost all of those Colgate students were what we'd call facetimers!) Maybe that's why I've been so eager to get to away games this year as opposed to in the past--I'm just so much more impressed by the group of students (and alumni et al) who make the trips and support the team rather than the great majority of the students at Lynah this season. You know, the ones who throw shit on the ice when it isn't the beginning of the game, and the ones who seem to want to perpetuate the new phone number goalie taunt. Argh.

A friend of mine has phone number guy in one of his classes (he announced himself on the first day, apparently.... what a jerk). I suggested my friend look up that guy's phone number and chant it in class.

I'm not sure I understand why one of the Colgate fans threw the giant... um... "toy"... on the ice after their second goal. Hell of an arm, though....

And were their fans (and little kids) actually bribed with pizza for chanting "Cornell Sucks?" (hehehe... "past your bed-time! *clap clap clapclapclap*"

One Colgate guy behind me was actually really funny -- I had to give him props for some of the stuff he was shouting about his own mother. Made me laugh, at least....

Their fans showed up for free pizza.
Funny moments included the ref trying to pick up the "toy" and the frat boys in our section who had NOTHING creative to offer. One of them stood in front of me and said "look at you" three times in a row before he could even conjure a thought.
Who is the guy with eye chart? That was hilarious.
I thought the Cornell fans tonight were awesome... I only wish the hockey team was too.
Hope everyone made it home ok,
Alex

Let's not forget the slice of pizza hurled at us by the lame-ass-excuse-for-a-fan.

Your fans suck.
Your fans suck.
Your fans suck.

The guy with the eye chart (green jacket I think), usually sits in the middle of N at home. His eye chart blew ours out of the water when we first saw it come out at the second RPI playoff game last year. He has it often, and is the man.

Didn't see Saturday's game, but Colgate was not trapping on Friday. Colgate consistently had one forechecker coming in low to stop the drop pass from the forward to the D on the breakout, and flushing that forward to the second forechecker coming in at an angle towards the boards. The trap typcially features a single forechecker that flushes the puck carrier towards the outside, into the teeth of the trap waiting in (or near) the neutral zone.

Lots of Cornell turnovers in the first game were a result of botched passes from the puck carrying forward to the D (trying to run the standard breakout play even though Colgate's forecheck was tailor made to stop it). The rest of the turnovers on the breakout came on blind "oh crap here it comes chuck it behind the net" passes. Credit to the Colgate forecheck, which executed perfectly and finished its checks on Friday, but I think a more experienced team would've figured it out - or at least would've stopped turning it over in the bottom of the faceoff circle before the first intermission.

One problem, which is consistent on the breakout and the power play, is a lack of puck movement. Cornell moved the puck better than anyone in the ECAC last year. This year, well. . . when Cornell was scoring goals, the puck movement was better. Obviously not as good as last year, but still pretty good. Now it's awful. Losing Gleed/Wallace/Cook/Hynes was a big blow there. I remember Cook having horrible problems moving the puck on the breakout against Clarkson (they ran a weaving forecheck that nobody else in the league used at the time) when he was a freshman, and I guess it takes time to learn how to run the breakout at this level and adjust to different forechecks.

Give Colgate credit, though: they were dominant on the forecheck, and never really allowed Cornell to get a forecheck or cycle going in the offensive zone (again, this was Friday, but it sounded like Saturday was much the same). Colgate's a good team this year, and I'll be surprised if the Raiders don't finish in the top 4 and make a run at Albany.

I doubt Coach Schafer will have anyone climbing stairs after that one. There is a good write-up on USCHO, in which he talks about how proud he was of the team for staying in the game, and how extensive the injuries are. Wallace apparently scored with casts on both arms.

Colgate has got to be a tough place to play with 10 forwards, and basically 4 defensemen. This might be the most undermanned team since the one that played at SLU a few years back after being poisoned at the Potsdam Pizza Hut.

I think now the hope would be to limp into the fourth home playoff spot, and try to nurse a full team back to health in time for the playoffs.

Maybe its time to ease up on the systematic approach a little bit too, and find a way to score some goals, even if it means taking a few more chances.

i think the that guy sucks chant was directed at the colgate fan with the backwards bud hat who had tobacco in his mouth the first peiod and started yelling things that made no sense.

as for the trap, colgate was forechecking with one player and then moving the rest of their players towards the puck carrying player in the neutral zone/blue line clogging the passing and skating lanes as well as the player with the puck. is this not the trap or a variant? curious is all

i also think that if this team can hang on and stay in games they will be a team to watch out for during the end of the season and playoffs once they get healthy. i hope the captain heals up well as well as everyone else

Kudos to the band for blowing Colgate's band out of the water. I don't know if anybody in the band could see, but during Pinball Wizard, the entire Colgate student section just sat there with their mouths open listening. Most of them even clapped at the end too. So to get their fans (who were telling us to kill ourselves) to do that is pretty impressive, you guys rocked!

jy3 -

Yes, that sounds like a trap. Like I said, I didn't see Saturday's game, but I do know that Colgate was sending two forecheckers deep into the offensive zone on Friday, and what they were doing didn't look any more like a trap than Cornell's forechecking system. I'm assuming you're describing Saturday's game, in which case I wonder why they changed systems. Maybe all the special teams play made them change things up a bit, or maybe they play a more aggressive forecheck on the road where they feel like they need to score more goals. Or maybe Cornell adjusted from Friday and Colgate's response was to drop that second forechecker back to the blueline and trap instead of trying to force turnovers deep in the Cornell end. Anyway, I'm sure I'll never know.

Just saw this now, and it made me laugh:

• Great to see a full house at Starr Rink on Saturday for Cornell's visit, but as is the case with most big games, some of the more casual fans attended strictly for the chance to throw things on the ice (packs of Big Red gum during the starting lineups). Some fans continued to throw things throughout the game, which certainly irked Colgate public address announcer Joe Caprio. His numerous, spirited pleas for better fan behavior included this second-period salvo:

"PLEASE refrain from throwing objects on the ice. It's English! You SHOULD Underrrrr Staaaaand!"


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