Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by Trotsky
Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ashbva.adelphia.net)
Date: November 28, 2006 09:38PM
All time leaders, wins, Cornell coaches
1. 229 Dick Bertrand
2. 228 Mike Schafer
3. 163 Ned Harkness
1. 229 Dick Bertrand
2. 228 Mike Schafer
3. 163 Ned Harkness
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 28, 2006 10:11PM
Already holds the record for losses.
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Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: November 29, 2006 02:07AM
Magic numer. So Schafer clinches if he wins or Bertrand loses?
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 01, 2006 03:47PM
Hmmm...today's Ithaca Journal says Mike needs two wins to tie Bertrand.Trotsky
All time leaders, wins, Cornell coaches
1. 229 Dick Bertrand
2. 228 Mike Schafer
3. 163 Ned Harkness
[theithacajournal.com]
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Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: Rich S (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: December 01, 2006 04:13PM
Al DeFlorioHmmm...today's Ithaca Journal says Mike needs two wins to tie Bertrand.Trotsky
All time leaders, wins, Cornell coaches
1. 229 Dick Bertrand
2. 228 Mike Schafer
3. 163 Ned Harkness
[theithacajournal.com]
or perhaps just ONE loud sportcoat?
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 01, 2006 07:16PM
Al DeFlorioHmmm...today's Ithaca Journal says Mike needs two wins to tie Bertrand.Trotsky
All time leaders, wins, Cornell coaches
1. 229 Dick Bertrand
2. 228 Mike Schafer
3. 163 Ned Harkness
[theithacajournal.com]
Thought: what about that game that Schafer was suspended for @ Yale. Could that be the difference?
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: Trotsky (---.ashbva.adelphia.net)
Date: December 01, 2006 10:09PM
DeltaOne81
Thought: what about that game that Schafer was suspended for @ Yale. Could that be the difference?
Did we win it? It's a good theory, anyway.
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: December 01, 2006 10:21PM
TrotskyDeltaOne81
Thought: what about that game that Schafer was suspended for @ Yale. Could that be the difference?
Did we win it? It's a good theory, anyway.
Yeah we won the game. So that could be it.
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: December 02, 2006 09:44AM
redhair34TrotskyDeltaOne81
Thought: what about that game that Schafer was suspended for @ Yale. Could that be the difference?
Did we win it? It's a good theory, anyway.
Yeah we won the game. So that could be it.
Not likely; there's no entry for Brekke/Garrow in the media guide under Career Coaching Records, and Schafer's numbers equal the total number of games played during his coaching tenure.
More likely: the 9-0 BU game in 72-73. Cornell media guide counts the game as a forfeit win for Cornell, and has Cornell's record for that season as 23-5-1. TBRW shows the game as a forfeit win for Cornell in the game-by-game listing for the 72-73 season, but has Cornell's record for the season as 22-6-1 in the overall won-lost records (see the attached screen capture).
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 02, 2006 11:25AM
ACM
Not likely; there's no entry for Brekke/Garrow in the media guide under Career Coaching Records, and Schafer's numbers equal the total number of games played during his coaching tenure.
More likely: the 9-0 BU game in 72-73. Cornell media guide counts the game as a forfeit win for Cornell, and has Cornell's record for that season as 23-5-1. TBRW shows the game as a forfeit win for Cornell in the game-by-game listing for the 72-73 season, but has Cornell's record for the season as 22-6-1 in the overall won-lost records (see the attached screen capture).
Darn, I should remembered that one
Can Greg confirm that that makes the difference in the math?
P.S. Even if neither Greg nor the media guide did it, *should* Schafer have a win taken away for that day?
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: bandrews37 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: December 02, 2006 12:09PM
Bertrand has 230 wins, Schafer will have to wait until at least Florida for a chance to tie or overtake, currently sitting at 228.
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: December 02, 2006 01:15PM
There must be history for this - suspended coach's wins not counting. With say Woody Hayes or Bob Knight or other famous hotheads from the sporting world.DeltaOne81Al DeFlorioHmmm...today's Ithaca Journal says Mike needs two wins to tie Bertrand.Trotsky
All time leaders, wins, Cornell coaches
1. 229 Dick Bertrand
2. 228 Mike Schafer
3. 163 Ned Harkness
[theithacajournal.com]
Thought: what about that game that Schafer was suspended for @ Yale. Could that be the difference?
Re: Schafer Magic Number: 1
Posted by: Bio '04 (128.118.170.---)
Date: December 02, 2006 01:31PM
DeltaOne81
Thought: what about that game that Schafer was suspended for @ Yale. Could that be the difference?
Schafer has been suspended for other games that Cornell has won.
eg Vermont at Cornell in 2004 (I remember people in the townie sections sitting with pictures of Schafer on popsicle sticks)
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